Chart Stalkers January 2008

[satch]

you guys make me laugh!

I love the statistics. I'm not sure if I'm included because I've been filling in my temps in a fertility friend chart, but to share it I have to pay (?) and I haven't got round to that yet..

If the group stays at 20, and there's a 20% of getting a BFP that means 4 people leave each month. Now if 4 people join each month, the chance of getting a BFP stays at 20%, but 20% is a 1 in 5 chance. This also means that in 5 months all the people joined today should be pregnant!

 

[reallyoldmum]

Kmac, I think it is much more important how long your LP is to be honest so if you ovulate on cd7 and AF arrives on CD21 you would be 14 dpo which would give you every chance to fertilize the egg and it implant - I think the problem comes if your LP is 10 days or under...... so it sounds as if your cycle is fine to me.......

Chrissy I predict you drink a whole bottle of wine - rip your DH pants off and bed like rabbits....... You may not get that BFP but you will have a smile on your face tomorrow......

Mildly I know what you are saying about Cheri - I too have had numerous email conversations with her and she seems really nice. I think as long as you just see it as a little bit of entertainment then this sort of thing is fine, its when the response comes back and people get upset that it worries me....... Its lovely to see you back over here though and even better to see your ticker moving so fast x x x x

Kitty I do have a couple of strawberry and white chocolate muffins left....

 

[kmac]

Hi Kitty and rom
Thanks for replying. Since coming off the pill my cycles have been 33, 30, 34, 43, 21, 24, 40, 38, 24, 23, 39, 33 and 21 days. So a bit of a mixture. I am a bit worried tbh. Will see what happens this month. Started doing the opk's already and got a fairly strong line today but still def negative, so hope it takes a few days at least to get stronger, if it does! trying not to get worked up again, and managed not to obsess for the last few days but all those niggles are creeping back now..

 

[Mildly]

ROM, I totally agree. I'd hate to see anyone upset from getting a prediction. I can't believe I'm already 8 weeks Can't wait until you all come over to tri 1 too

kmac, my cycles were a bit of a screwy length wise whilst TTC. I agree with ROM, I think it is the LP that is indicative of a healthy cycle rather than the cycle length. Also as Kitty says, the OPKs are a good warning/indicator that you've hit Ov. It's still early but I'm sure your line will get stronger as Ov approaches

loola fingers crossed for you Symptoms are sounding great and your chart is looking strong

Good luck everyone else who waiting to snag the Feb slots And get BDing to those coming up for Ovulation

 

[sookie]

Hi guys

Thanks for all the s

DH is home! Yay! He's still not 100% but at least all that palava is over.

I am totally into all the Cheri bashing. I got one as a laugh as I don't believe in that stuff at all. Like Loola said though, it's just kinda nice to have someone tell you that you'll get your BFP. Utterly ridiculous. Some people just won't. It's a fact. And I can't imagine she writes back saying "I am seeing NEVER as either birth month, conceive month or month to find out it". And yes, obviously by linking the said month to three possibilities it's basically a 3 in 12 chance of being correct. Not bad odds when you factor in that some women giver her other information. I didn't tell her my age or anything, just TTC number one. No length of time either. Other people do though.

She told me March and girl. She said that my girl would be a real girly-girl. Odd. I really am not. And neither is anyone in mine or DHs family. She said that she would like wearing lip gloss and my high heels around the age of 3. Well, I work with chn and I defy you to find a 3 year old girl who wouldn't like to do that if it was modelled for her. But there are no high heels in my cupboard.

Then she said that she would be a bloody cosmotologist! Whatever that is. I think it is beauty therapy. Well, sorry but nooooooo. It seems pretty unlikey. DH is an academic, and I am a former history major who is now a teacher. Of course it is possible that you get a child that is just a freak in comparison to you, but it seems unlikely that our child would not become a lazy student like we are/were. Anyway, it made me smile.

I will do a prediction tomorrow... someone do me please!

me: 29 (nearly 30)
DH: 34
ttc #1 since july 07
no losses and no pregnancies
Me bloody long and annoying cycle
DH had one test with very low sperm count, but quite likely due to lifestyle factors (but not sure). He did get a girl pregnant by accident 10 years ago (condom broke!) but who know if this was a fluke or what.

 

[Kittykins]

ok ok ok this is my last post of the day I promise (DH is calling me from upstairs, asking if I'm ever going to go to bed - I was watching the news about the Soc Gen trader. You know, the weirdest thing about it is not the collapse in global markets, or the US fed reserve bank slashing interest rates, but that a trader in a global bank in one of Europe's major stock exchanges could have worked there for 7 years and yet earn only £70k inc bonus... Maybe I'm missing sth, but that fact alone would have alerted me to the possibility he's not that great a trader 5 years ago )

I will try to do some predictions tomorrow, I think maybe I could persuade my spirit guides to investigate character a little... I've been told already that no way is Sookie's little girl going to be a cosmetologist, there was a bit of interference between our world and the next, and apparently she's going to be a cosmologist - yep, that's right, a rocket scientist. Hope that makes you feel better, Sookie!

And I would like to make it clear too that I do think, from everything I've seen, that Cheri22 genuinely believes in her 'gift'. It's simply that I personally don't believe it's at all guided by spirits in another dimension. Some of us go by analysis, some by intuition, but effectively the process is the same. Exactly, 1 month = 3 possibilities = 1 in 4 chance of accuracy before you know anything at all about the individual. That's why a just over 1 in 2 success rate is to be expected. Whether you call that statistical analysis, intuition or spiritual guidance is up to you. A lot of women will conceive in the month they're given simply through positive thinking. There is a strong possibility that without the Cheri prediction, they wouldn't get the BFP for several months longer. We all need to believe in something.

And with that profound statement, I shall take myself to bed and believe in sleep for a few hours...

 

[CB23]

Morning pyschic ladies! Have had fun reading through the predictions

Sookie glad your DH is home and KMAC hopefully you're feeling calmer after the collective wisdom of the chart stalkers, try not to stress about your cycle and I completely agree that as long you have a LP of over 10 days then your lining would build up fine.

Well I got my crosshairs with this mornings temp and as I thought I ov'd CD14. This is a pain in many ways, primarily because we didn't time it right (the pregnancy monitor on the VIP is giving me a low, I feel as if they've been watching us and rating our performance, 3 out of 10, must try harder ) but also because we were gradually moving one day at a time to a nice weekend ovulation and now we're firmly stuck in the region of mid week bd and that is nowhere near as relaxing and fun. Boo hiss at my body.

The other morning when we desperately tried to catch the egg I did the whole bum on pillow after for 20 mins thing as the nurse recommended because of my tilted cervix then probably dislodged all his frantic swimmers by having to run for the train as it made me late!

 

[libs]

erm just posting cos your post count is 666 and you lot dissing the psychics so for luck here's 667

 

[Kittykins]

Thanks Libs!


CB23 - After 20 mins the sperm should be well inside the uterus - you can't shake them out from there! Anything that leaks out after that is likely to be seminal fluid and the duff sperm that aren't going anywhere. Running for the train probably just jiggled them up a bit and got them moving a bit faster

Yeah, I feel the same about the monitor.

Kmac - I don't think you need to worry at all, it looks to me like your body is just sorting itself out after the Pill.



Well, I woke up really hot this morning and very early (I've been waking a lot in the night recently). I took my temp and it was 36.46 at 4:10am. That's really high... The temp adjuster makes that 36.66 at 60 for me which would be my highest ever. I was rather expecting the temp to plummet, on second day of AF. I went to the loo, got cold, came back to a cold bed, DH had decided to get up, and I couldn't get back to sleep. I did take my temp at 60 (a more respectable 36.2 something) but as I hadn't slept between but had read instead, I don't think it's very accurate. I've put in the unadjusted 4:10 temp - but because it's so early in the cycle, FF hasn't given me an open circle, it's assuming that 4:10 is my default time. Worse, it's made yesterday's time on the current cycle an open circle, though as the last temp on the previous cycle, it's closed. What do you think I should do? I'm a bit worried it's going to screw up my coverline and ov detector for this cycle... like my flu temps screwed up the beginning of last cycle. Help!

 

[Loola]

Kitty - if you set a certain time as your default time does that make any difference? Or if you discard todays temp?

 

[reallyoldmum]

Kitty I havent set a time in FF, if I wake up early or late I just mark it as disrupted sleep and it puts it as an open circle - I'm sure thats not the right thing to do but I never seem to wake up at the same time each day.

I look as if I'm not going to ovulate anytime soon this month - my temps are up and down like billyo and they are really high!! Getting a line on my opk but it is not + so I dont think I'm close yet - just want this cycle to go so we can get on with it.....

 

[Kittykins]

60 is set as my default time. But as this is the second temp of the cycle (and the first that is this cycle rather than last, iykwim), it seems to override the default. V frustrating.

I don't want to put it as disrupted sleep because that would be inaccurate - the reason I'm using this temp is because it is the only one that isn't disrupted! I could use the later temp, with disrupted, but the issue here is that clearly my bbt rose whilst I was asleep and I need to indicate that on the chart - the later disrupted temps would show the fall that I expected.

I can't work out why my temp rose - and AF seems to have done a runner since yesterday evening, though I'm sure now I've posted that it'll come back with a vengeance. Basically, I'm bothered that my hormones are totally screwed and that the progesterone is finally kicking in just when the FSH, oestrogen etc should be taking over. What a mess...

 

[reallyoldmum]

Kitty I think we are all becoming a bit hysterical with all this........ I spend all day worrying about what my temp will be tomorrow....... What did I do all day before ttc???? I have come to the conclusion that my hormones are totally f***ked and I need to relax...

 

[kmac]

Morning all!
We are all getting a bit worked up aren't we!!
My temp is a bit higher than I would have liked but can I put that down to half a bottle of wine last night?
I too spend all day worrying what my temp will be the next morning.
I think maybe I should stop charting but because I'm worried I don't ov I need to see some evidence! Aargh!!

This is no way to live!

 

[choklatemunky]

KMAC = hope you are feeling a little better about things now.

Sookie - glad your DH is home and hope he continues to improve.

Kitty and ROM - I can totally understand the worry (count me in there with that too) about not really knowing wahts going on.....Maybe the stress of ttc is sending our internal systems all haywire - maybe we need to do some chanting "must calm down, must calm down, must clam down". hmmm, not really working for me tho!

Kitty Im not sure what to suggest about the temp - maybe as you go further through the cycle it will sort itself out when you put in 'normal time' temps and give you the open circle today or something?

Errr, sorry i cant remember what everyone else has written- soon as there were so many posts to read through.

Cyril adn Bob are having a lay in today - so I will try and rouse them later to do some more 'silly psychics'.

Hugs to everyone x

 

[CB23]

Kitty can you remember if you have ever taken your temp around that time before? And have you had a 'proper' AF as in your usual heaviness of bleeding? To have gone already seems very short. Is it worth going to the docs now and just outright asking for some hormone tests, whilst you are still in the early part of your cycle?

 

[choklatemunky]

Hey CB23 - I think I remember her saying she was going on monday anyway - so I guess, Kitty, that you could ask for the tests and see what the Dr says?

 

[Kittykins]

yeah, I have an appt Monday morning. No, it wasn't usual heaviness at all - very light. And just seems to have stopped completely - for the moment at least. I checked all my previous 4am temps, they're all post-ov ones, and all around 36.2 - 36.3. Maybe this is just a one-off temp, or maybe AF hasn't properly arrived yet and I'm still in the luteal phase, I just started a new cycle a couple of days too soon. I just wish it would come all at once or not at all!

Sookie, yay, your DH is back! Hope you're looking after him well!

well, I have a hundred things to do, but hopefully I'll have some time to get back to psychic predictions this evening Hope you're all having a good weekend!

 

[Melly+2]

Hey im wanting to try ff and ive signed up but i havnt recieved an email and it wont let ,me log in can anyone help me please??

 

[Loola]

Hi everyone Hope you are all well, happy and having a good weekend

Right for some chart stalking:

Kitty - It really could have been an implantation bleed? You have to test! Just to put us out of our misery! You certainly didnt have the dramatic drop in temps that are associated with AF arrival, your temps are still above the cover line. Im praying that full on AF stays away for you for good reason of course! Hope the Doc sheds some light if a test doesnt. Good luck!

Sookie - Glad your DH is home, hope he feels better soon. Your chart is still looking good! Hope you have a BFP to make up for the hard time you have been having.

Trudy - Glad your temps are high again today! So excited for you! Any sign of pregnancy or AF?

CB23 - Hope you caught the egg in time

Sorry Im being nagged by my OH to get off the PC so sorry If Ive missed you out. Ill try to do more later.

Im with you all on the becoming hysterical. I went to Tesco earlier, and was browsing the magazines. I was flicking through a pregnancy magazine, I looked around and an old lady gave me the lovliest smile, as if she pleased that I was newly pregnant, I smiled back at her of course and put the magazine in my trolley, as I couldnt have put it back. I went down the next aisle and burst into tears! Im such an emotional buffoon lately!