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[reallyoldmum]

Oh god you girls are so sweet - I dont know what I would do if I didnt have this forum!!

I suppose I am stressed but only the stress I put on myself through ttc! Oh yes and living with a nearly 18 year old boy - thats pretty stressful......

I am just going to wait and see what happens with the bleeding - if it hasnt stopped by tomorrow I will go back to the doctors if I can get an appointment. To be honest Kitty it is more than spotting so I have changed it back on FF and I had adjusted my temps using their corrector the past two days as I have woken really early (4.00 am) both days but I had had more than 4 hours sleep so I have put in my pre-adjusted temps and will see what happens...... Bleeding is getting a little darker now - more like normal AF if that makes sense so I think it is unlikely to be ovulation bleeding now the good news is that it appears a little lighter this morning and my usual AF is usually only 3-4 days......

Anyway sorry to be so preoccupied by myself at the moment - I hope everyone else has a "normal" cycle and lots of BFP's at the end of it......

x x x x x x

 

[Chrissy1]

That's what we're here for. We're all going through a stressful time TTC and it's nice to know we all have somewhere to turn where's there's people who understand what we're going through

 

[sookie]

Morning all,

ROM - so sorry you're feeling down. I have no advice to offer. Only to second what you have already decided to do.

Kitty - I completely agree about the nursery etc. I would never do that! But a jumpsuit here or there is a bit different to a whole decked out room BTW, my DH doesn't really believe god is punishing us. That was a joke. Neither of us believes in god, so that's how he gets around the present thing on both fronts. It's not like I don't get pressies ever though. We go on loads of holidays (this year we went to Fiji, Cuba, some places in Colombia, New York and now we're travelling again) and he buys pressies when he sees something nice. I'm very lucky.

Kitty, I also agree that CD 18 looks more likely, and as ROM says the bedding is looking great for that. Take a well deserved break!

Hi to everyone else

Gotta get this in quick as am supposed to be out the door to work. FF things I ovulated already! on CD 23. I am really not sure, as the EWCM was not as much as I have had in the past, and no +OPK. It has given me crosshairs so it is not certain either. My temp shot up today, and the day after it thinks I might have Oed I did think I had O pain, but no tender breasts like last month. The coverline is lower than last month's too.

What do you think?

 

[Kittykins]

Sookie - phew! I didn't want to insult you by saying I thought your DH was a nutcase! problem is that when it comes to religion, it's difficult to tell on an internet forum when someone's joking - and it's not something you want to cause offence over...

On the nursery thing, I know a couple who did redecorate a whole room, bought the nursery furniture, toys, clothes, everything. The baby was born at 24 weeks. Fortunately it survived, but was in hospital for 6 months, undergoing operations. The mother was in hospital for 4 weeks herself because of haemorrhaging. The father couldn't face returning to his own house, and stayed with friends. Then when they finally got the baby home, they needed specialist equipment anyway. It was an extreme case though - I don't think many couples would start ordering furniture as soon as they got a BFP, like this couple did. That's what prompted my comment, anyway!

By the way - Sookie - how come you found a UK site? Not meant in a horrible way, just curious that an Aussie in Colombia posts on a UK forum. Doesn't the time difference bother you? I know that when I post on FF, it's really frustrating for me that everyone else posts in the middle of the night, and then I have to play catch-up - even though technically I'm ahead. Plus the others keep referring to stuff I don't know about and can't get hold of, and advise me to go to the Dollar Tree Store or Walgreen's or something! Anyway, glad you're here!

I had a look at your chart. It looks possible but I think you'd need to wait a few more days - sorry that's always the answer nobody wants. At this moment, it doesn't look any more likely that the temp will stay up tomorrow than that it will go back down, and it's not significantly higher than peaks earlier in the cycle. However, combined with the CM it looks very promising. I'm not placing much reliance on OPK results this month! It seems pretty obvious that I ovulated at some point - it's only the date that's in doubt - and I used three different kinds of OPKs this month. The CBEFM, i/cs from Access Diagnostics, and i/cs from eBay. Not a single + between them.

If you did, though, you got a BD in at the right time, so FX! (that could really screw up your trip!!! )When are you off?

ROM - as Chrissy says, that's the point of the forum!

 

[sookie]

Hey there everyone,

Kitty - I'm glad we have sorted that confusion over my DH. He's the most practical, level-headed person I know. I am thinking that I gave the impression that he thought that we were being punished by god

That's a really horrible story about your friends. I hope that everything is ok for them now. It's hard to know what to do isn't it? Because while what they did was obviously extreme that early, you at least want a cot ready for the baby and maybe a change table when you get home from the hospital. I guess you just leave it as late as possible and keep them in there boxes or stored away.

To answer your question about the UK site, it's that this was the best forum I found. The difference with Australia is too huge (16 hours), and while I am in the same time zone as many states in the US, in general I can't stand Americans. Especially on forums they tend to be pretty dumb. So I thought the UK seemed like my best bet. I do feel a bit bothered sometimes when by the time I get up at 5.30 you've all already finished stalking and posting. And at night nothing is happening because you're all But during the day it's good. And I just love you guys

I'm not convinced by ff's O date either. So will wait and see. At least we're in with a chance We are leaving on Monday and travelling all over Colombia for a month. I'm really looking forward to it, as school has been a bit stressful lately, and it will be nice to get into the cool mountain air. I think a bit of will be worth a December BFP! But I'm not getting my hopes up this month after our news.

Alright - back to work

 

[CB23]

ROM how you getting on?

 

[reallyoldmum]

Hi Claire, well the bleeding is now more like AF - TMI warning - its turned sort of brown and is still there at the end of day 3 so it looks like it was AF not ovulation bleeding...... My usual AF only lasts for 3 or 4 days and I also have a nice crop of spots on my chin and back.......

Although my doctor says that 10 days of agnus cactus wouldnt have caused this funny cycle I am not taking any chances so I have stopped taking it. Back to just sanatogen vits for me.

I will see how it goes over the next couple of days but think I need to start a new cycle on FF. Hopefully this will just be a one off and I can get totally back to normal now - I wonder if it is my body being mixed up after my pregnancy back in October? Its sort of hit me the last couple of days how real that was and suddenly I feel sad about that too all over again Had to spend the evening with my cousin tonight who is vile - she is a single mum (by choice) and has 5 children under 10 - openly says she only carries on having them to get benefits!! She spent the whole time shouting and swearing at them including her dear little boy who is only 14 months old - I just felt like slapping her - she kept on saying to me "dont know why you are so upset what on earth would you want one of these for??!!" God life doesnt seem fair - I know I'm 41 and I consider myself blessed that I have two beautiful grown up children but I know I would be a great mum if only I have the chance again......

Corr sorry off on one again!!! Must be the glass of wine I have had

 

[reallyoldmum]

Oh my goodness - I have just got off the phone with my daughter who reminded me what happened on the day I got AF.

I didnt test again because AF started - anyway I now just
wonder if I am going to be like my mum (she bleed throughout her pregnancy with my elder brother) and in fact I have experienced another miscarriage?????

Grrrr I wish I had some answers........

 

[babydust]

have you tested again since

 

[reallyoldmum]

Yes Claire the doctor did a test on Tuesday and it was negative so if I was then I'm not now To be honest I think that was a nasty evap line but I had forgotten - my daughter was home from uni when I took it and was convinced I was pregnant but then AF started just after I got that funny test - I also tested with a FRER but that was - but I had forgotten until she said bless her.

 

[babydust]

why is ttc not straight forward

 

[CB23]

ROM

Can't believe your cousin said that to you

FF has put me down for Ov on CD15 the same day as last month, so I'm now in the 2ww

 

[Chrissy1]

Morning folks...how are we all.

ROM - I can't believe your cousin is like in front of you and fancy saying something like that.. some people don't deserve children!

CB23 - Good luck in your 2ww. I think I'll be joining you there soon.

babydust - totall agree. If only it could just happen for us all in the first month...

sookie - You lucky thing going to Columbia.. wish it was me!!

Kittkins - morning how are you?? It's definately looking likely that CD 18 was you OV date so fingers crossed for you BFP

to everyone else.

My temp has risen again today but still not as high as my post OV temps last month and I've still got loads of EWCM. I did a OPK and it was negative so I'm going to keep going until I know that OV has been and gone. I'm thinking now that my ridiculously low temp earlier this week is looking like a OV dip. Luckily I had got loads of EWCM at the time so we did the deed so I'm still crossing my fingers for that BFP on my birthday

 

[babydust]

we tried to bd last night and my little girl was sick right in the middle of it so we had to abandon ship she then spent the rest of the night in our bed, then my other little girl came through so we all squeezed into the bed i dont think it would have made a difference as i havent got a strong +ve on an opk yet and my temps dont suggest it yet, so tonight my mum is babysitting

how is everyone else doing is anyone ready for testing yet?

 

[reallyoldmum]

Wow Chrissy thats some rise!! looks like Ov will be on CD12 to me and you have covered the bases bedding so fingers crossed.

Claire I remember the days when my children got into bed with us - its lovely but not much good for babymaking Make the most of your mum babysitting tonight

Sookie how lovely a nice long holiday - thats one thing I miss being self employed. How will you celebrate Christmas? or dont you bother?

Kitty do you usually have wcm in the tww? Your temps look nice and steady too. that this is your month.

CB23 now the waiting begins - now remember patience is a virtue!!

I am still bleeding - it is light now but just like AF with no pain - to be honest it has been heavier than my usual AF so perhaps its just my body having a good clear out!!! Actually slept last night although we didnt get to bed until 2.00 am (DH was working late) and I had 6 hours of lovely sleep - my temp has gone up this morning but really not sure that is anything to go by. Oh well I'm sure I cannot be anymore confused so we are just taking every day as it comes - had a long heart to heart with DH about how long we will continue trying - I will be 42 in March and I sort of think I will give up then if nothing happens before hand......

 

[Chrissy1]

ROM - I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get that BFP before March then


I know what you mean about my rise..... I think it looks worse because there's such a massive dip though. Last month my post OV temps were all over 36.4 and before OV I was 36.2 or below and today was only 36 spot on so you never know. I've just been and done and OPK and although there was a very faint 2nd line I'm not counting it as a positive so I'm thinking I might be starting with my surge. My predicted date this month is for OV tommorw so I'm going to do another OPK when I get home later today.

 

[reallyoldmum]

I think doing two a day when you think you are near ovulation is a great idea Chrissy - I would usually do one at about 11.00 am and another about 5.00 pm - there can be a definate change in a day..... Keeping everything crossed for you x x x x

 

[Kittykins]

hey all,

Sorry, this isn't going to be a great post - I promise I'll do better tomorrow...
Haven't really had time to look through all the charts, plus I'm feeling awful today

ROM - I'm afraid I have no advice, no suggestions and no explanations But it does sounds like you need to ask the doctor for his opinion. FX it's your body saying right, enough, let's get rid of all these hormones and start with a clean sheet. I do think it's fantastic that you have such a supportive family - your daughter sounds great.

babydust - sorry your DD was sick - hope she's better today. Guess I'm kind of glad I don't have to factor in interruptions into the bd schedule - it's hard enough as it is! Does your mother know why she's babysitting? I'm curious to know how open everyone else is! My mother knows that we're TTC, but only because I told her about the chem - I had to tell someone, and I kknew she's had mcs, so wanted to ask questions. But I wouldn't be able to tell her 'we're trying tonight'! Don't know why not, she'd probably just say 'good luck'

I'm feeling really today, so am going to retreat to the sofa with my most recent haul from the library. Sadly, I can't even begin to pretend it's a pg symptom. I went to the dentist yesterday evening, needed a couple of teeth filling/sealing that had been impacted years ago when my wisdom teeth grew out sideways. The anaesthetic has been wearing off this morning, and I'm not a happy bunny. It's not particularly painful, just a dull ache and quite sensitive, but it's turned my tummy and my lips are horribly warm and fuzzy

I don't think today's temp was affected, but I wouldn't know for sure. I asked the FF guide for an opinion yesterday and she thought CD14 and CD18 were equally likely. As there's nothing I can do, I'm just waiting now, and if AF doesn't show on Tuesday (as FF predicts), I'll override the chart, and expect it on Saturday. I'm less confident because DH, in a rare moment of sharpsightedness, pointed out that the chem last month meant my LP was longer - AF was actually a couple of days late, so although it looks like a 33-day cycle, it might have been 31 days had it not been for the chem. Then he suggested that maybe my cycles are still shortening post BCP, so it might not be implausible to have ov'ed on CD14 and have a 28-day cycle for the first time. I don't know anything any more

Anyway, the sofa, the books, and a blanket beckon. And soup. Again. I can't think of much else that's soft!

sorry to those I haven't addressed, I'll make up for it tomorrow

 

[reallyoldmum]

Oh Kitty poor you - I hate the dentist - make sure you wrap up warm and enjoy a day feeling sorry for yourself x x x x x x

 

[Kittykins]

p.s. - ROM - about the WCM - never had it before at all that I know of. Not even sure I've charted it correctly. It looks/feels like I've wet my knickers - maybe I have Best way I can describe it is that horrible sensation half an hour after you get out the bath you've been soaking in for ages, and the bathwater seeps out. It's totally colourless, and just really wet. I did check where it was coming out from, just in case I'd become incontinent all of a sudden! Anyway, if that's not watery CM, I don't know what it is, but now it's buggered up my chart even more because FF thinks it's fertile. I'm pretty damn sure it's not. I'm definitely not going to start POAS on OPKs all over again. I'm kind of fed up with this cycle now, but then maybe that's just because I'm in a bad mood today and my jaw hurts

Right, off to feel sorry for myself properly.