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everyone else you all seem confused today is that what happens when i leave you 
its still early days dont give up charting, there were times that i wanted to pack it all in as it was getting too stressfull but charting is the only way of knowing what your bod is doing. how long is your usual cycle? i was really surprised when ff and the opks told me i was ov'ing round about cd 16 or 17 my cycles were usually less than 28 Chrissy. As far as I am aware, the spotting would be completely separate from the dip. I believe an implantation dip is caused by a temporary surge in oestrogen - and many women get a surge in oestrogen in the few days after ovulation anyway - so the whole concept of the dip is quite hypothetical. Statistically, the dip is found in more pg than non-pg charts, but it's not conclusive. You just have to ask yourself if you'd feel better if you weren't - presumably, if you weren't charting, you'd have thought the OPK was a +, and might now be thinking you'd ovulated. You'd then miss the real ovulation, get your hopes up 14 days after the +OPK, only to have them dashed a week later when AF arrived. At least at the moment you are aware that you may not have ovulated yet, and will keep BDing. I've come to the realisation that frustrating though the charts can be (and just look at mine!!!) at least I know that my body is misbehaving - and my doctor has told me that the charts are extremely useful tools in ruling out all sorts of problems, which means that he is willing to start testing for other problems much sooner. He's pointed out that we know I ovulate, that the ovulation date can vary, that my luteal phase is adequate, although again variable, and that we know that DH and I are BDing at the right time. From the doctor's point of view, that's very useful information. I guess you have to decide whether you'd prefer not to know all that! to babydust. Hmm, since you changed your name, you seem to have attracted the babydust. Why don't you call yourself babyglue now and let me have babydust?!
to Bagpuss. How many cycles have you had the pre-AF spotting for? I'd be interested to hear what your doc says. I'm definitely going to ask mine again when I go back - I've had similar spotting, but only since the chem pg cycle, and the doctor told me it was due to the disrupted hormones. Are you using agnus castus or anything? I'm going to ask about that when I next go too... anyway, 
that it's implantation spotting for you and not the start of AF... 
ing its not over for you yet!!! Stay away AF. When will this be behind you?! I really hope it ends soon. 
Need to talk to her tomorrow about what we do next - she is great and has already said that she will do everything to help us so we will see what she is offering - I sort of hope they will do some checks on my tubes incase they are all blocked up..... I just worry that every egg is going to go the wrong way now... Hmmmmm wonder if sat nav is the way forward? scones said:Morning everyone
I'm confused, Im on a 26 day cycle and ive been getting quite strong (but not as strong as the control lines), on opk for the past 3 days, im on cycle day 16 today, could it be possible that Im ov really late into a cycle?
I know it could still be early days but with the spotting as well I think AF is definately on her way. I've had a good cry this morning on DH's shoulder and starting from now we're going to save a good stash of his spermies for a few days and do the home test to see if that sheds any light on why we're . to everyone else.... sorry I haven't got time to stalk all the charts but I need to get some work done. . sat nav wonder if the mods will let me change it that BFN is so dishearting isnt it...... They do say its not over till AF arrives but I do understand you being upset. Hopefully now Christmas is over we can all settle down to some serious TTC stuff - I know if I drink more water and cut out the wine then I get much better cm........
She can see no real reason why this happened - looking at the scan detail she doesnt seem to think that there is much damage in my tubes so she is just putting it down to bad luck..... Last time we were there Dave asked her if it could have been down to riding the wake of our friends boat with our boat back in September...... bless him. I think that is good news as it would just be bad luck if it happened again...... Looks like ovulation could be just round the corner for you now though. Go get that egg! 
So now I have solid red crosshairs... so much nicer than blue... (though FAM does tend to position the coverline very high). I moved the cycle start date back yesterday, too, as I don't really know when my period started since it was just spotting throughout. I think it looks better with ovulation on CD10 than on CD7! of course, it doesn't really matter which day I ov'ed, just as long as I did... 
Have a good day all! shame you have to wait a cycle though are you going to do that? And sat nav I can understand your upset but there is still hope. I'm sorry you're having such a confusing cycle. to everyone else 
But it is frustrating, knowing that now is the time we should be BDing. OH is not in the right frame of mind though and not feeling sexy at all though, so its not likely to happen for me. Ill keep charting though to keep an eye on my cycle. 
