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[CB23]

Well I went to my doctors for all the good it did me!! Had to go to the walk in surgery so and saw a locom doctor who kept on having to go and find another doctor and ask them questions!!! Apparently when they took my swabs they only tested for infection and they were clear - that doesnt mean that I am not retaining some of the by-products of my miscarriage.... He did a dip pregnancy test which was negative - I thought it would be - and then said they couldnt send me for a scan as I wasnt pregnant!!!! or in severe pain!. Apparently in Shropshire they will only scan you if you are still showing a positive pregnancy test!! The only other way to get a scan other than paying privately is to be admitted to the gyni ward........ He could offer no explanation other than either I am slowly loosing anything that was left behind after my miscarriage or it was just one of those things!!! I have now been bleeding for 11 of the 22 days of this cycle with days in between that are normal.

I have done an OPK since I got back and it is again near +!!!

Well when I left the doctors I was in a right state and rang my friend so we are off out tonight - I am going to hit the bottle big time!! If nothing else at least I will forget about it for a few hours!!

ROM I'm so sorry I totally missed your post

Can't they blood test your HCG levels? It's just rubbish they don't think of us as people just a nuisance to be fobbed off it seems

thinking of you

 

[sookie]

HI Guys!!!

Well this is just a very quick peek as the computer has a funny screen and is incredibly annoying.

I'm sorry that you are all feeling down. to everyone!!!

ROM, I can't believe the rotten luck you're having. I would definitely hit the bottle tonight too. Enjoy.

Chrissy, fx you never know. I also thought I would be preggers by xmas, but it is not to be.

Claire great news about DH. Yeah!!!

Where is Kitty???

My temp seems to be slowly going down. Very little hope for me...

 

[Mildly]

Hey all

Hope your holiday is going well sookie

Chrissy and CB, hope Christmas takes your mind off TTC, however your charts are looking good at the moment, maybe you'll have some good news for us by then

ROM for you. What a horrible cycle you've had. I can't believe the doctors aren't more helpful. Hope you have a good night out tonight

babydust so glad your DH is fine I hope you managed to jump on him in celebration (and get in a bit of sneaky BDing )

Hi Chill, welcome to chart stalkers Fingers crossed your temp goes back up and AF stays away

Hi to everyone else, I am just waiting to Ov so the BDing can start in earnest. Am still hoping that this cycle will be a bit longer than the last one.

 

[babydust]

yes just a little bd'ing he was so happy when he came back from the dr's that he was up (if you know what i meen) when he came in so we made the most of it

sorry rom you are having a really bad time of it if i were you and i would wait until tomorrow and phone epu or nhs 24 and say you now have alot of pain, i know its not telling the truth but sometimes you just need to tell some fibs to get around our crap health service.

 

[CB23]

Hey Sookie hope you are having a good time!

Mildly hope you ov soon and definitely over the weekend - weekend bding is so much nicer and less hurried

babydust how are you feeling? more relaxed I hope now you have DH's news.

 

[babydust]

hi claire
yes we are feeling alot more relaxed now about it all, dh has got a new lease of life
i know i said that i was going to stay away dor a little while but i just can i need to feed my addiction but i told dh that i wasnt coming on here anymore
how are you doing any symptoms yet?

 

[babydust]

sorry sookie i forgot to ask how the holiday was?

 

[Bagpuss17]

Hi all,

ROM - So sorry that this monster of a cycle is still dragging on for you. It must be so difficult for you.

Babydust - Fab news about your DH, you must both be so relieved. Relax and enjoy your xmas and see what the new year brings you

Mildly - hope ov is not too long for you, good luck with the BD'ing.

CB23 - Hope you're feeling a bit better today. Your temps have gone up a bit again today so you never know....

Chrissy, you're chart is looking good.

Mine has flat lined. Still spotting, exactly like last month. Several days of spotting before AF. Making me worry about my progesterone levels but I did manage to conceive with my son and I was the same then. Always seems to start spotting 10/11 days past OV.

We're going to BD over xmas but still enjoy ourselves and eat and drink what we want. Here's to a New Year (and birthday) BFP

 

[Bagpuss17]

Kitty - where are you?

Hope everything is OK with you xxx

 

[Chrissy1]

Yeah I noticed Kitty hadn't been around for a few days too.......It's not taking me nearly as long to read the posts...

On a serious not I hope she's ok and she's just out getting all her christmas shopping done or BDing like crazy

 

[Kittykins]

Hi everyone. I haven't had time to read the posts, but hope all's ok. Sorry I've not been around. A friend of my parents died in a car accident a few days ago, so I've spent most of my spare time on the phone this week. The rest of the time I was doing research in the library - no internet access. Can't say thinking about TTC has been a top priority this week...

Anyway, we're expecting guests to arrive any minute, but I thought I'd pop in to say hello and goodbye! I'll probably have some time tomorrow for some stalking, so get those charts ready I'll try to write an extra-long one for Chrissy!

 

[Bagpuss17]

Hi Kitty,

So sorry to hear of the loss of your parents friend.

Glad that you are OK otherwise. Look forward to hearing from you tomorrow.

 

[CB23]

Hi all

Kitty so sorry about your parents friend how awful

I have sore boobs and AF pains and this is the first time since mc. I have always had the sore boob thing pre-AF but not since mc. Similarly often had mild cramps but not since mc. I'm taking this as a good sign that things are really actually getting back to normal in terms of my hormone levels. All I'm now hoping this AF stays away for a day or so and gives me a longer LP than 11 days last month.

Oh yes and a BFN today too. I'm actually not upset at all.

OH and I talked and decided to continue charting to just keep an eye on things.

 

[Mildly]

Hey all

Hope everyone is ok. I guess it's getting quiet in here in the lead up to Christmas. I need to go out and buy the remainder of the presents I need. I'm not looking forward to fighting through the crowds in the shops though.

Sorry to hear about you parents' friend Kitty

Good to hear your cycle is returning to normal CB. Sorry to hear it was a BFN, maybe you tested a little early

Bagpuss, have you had any tests to determine your progesterone levels? I didn't know that was related to spotting before AF, that's quite interesting. The month you fell PG with your son did you spot before you got your BFP?

Good luck to everyone else who's testing, BDing or just waiting

I'm still waiting to Ov but I'm finding myself feeling a bit paranoid that I might not this month. Not sure why, probably just me being stupid OPKs have has a very faint line for the last three days so I think it may be another week or so.

 

[reallyoldmum]

Hi everyone,

Kitty I am so sorry to hear about your parents friend, loosing someone suddenly is awful but somehow this time of year it seems worse. I am sure your support is comforting to them though. x x x

After I last posted in this thread I received a call from my doctors - apparently the doctor that saw me when I had my first bleed had overheard the doctor I saw on Friday talking about the fact that I was bleeding again and went mad that they had sent me home so all hell let loose - I am now on 3000 mg of Antibiotics a day to be honest I feel dreadful, my bleeding is so heavy now it is making me feel sick and my stomach is swollen that I look at least 6 months pregnant. The down side is that because it has been over a month since my loss (20th October) the EPAS wont see me for a scan - I have to wait to see the gyni department and that could take 12 weeks unless we pay £260 for a private scan and to be honest although we could probably manage it somehow it really goes against all my principles!! I have to be honest and say I think this has made me think I should count my blessings with my two beautiful children and give up - not sure if my marriage will survive if I do though Anyway so sorry for the moan but I just feel so down and scared I have no idea what is happening to me ........

 

[CB23]

oh gosh ROM I hope you get a gynie referral quickly. Why isn't your doc send you down as an emergency - you certainly seem poorly enough.

Don't give up yet, see the gynie and then decide think of it as a little break from ttc until then and hopefully you'll start to feel better both physically and emotionally.

 

[Bagpuss17]

ROM - I do feel for you. Keep BD'ing whilst you wait for your gynie appointment, you must go for that to find out what's happening.

So sorry hun that you're having to endure all this.

CB - I'm glad that things appear to be getting back to normal for you hun. It's still early to test for you so don't be disheartened by a BFN.

Keep BD'ing Mildly just in case you get your positive.

I've been looking back through my old diary when I was TTC with my first. I only started keeping a diary the month I got pg and the month before that. That's when I also started using the ov sticks.

It turns out that I had the same thing with spotting from 11 DPO the month before I got pregnant. Dark brown discharge which is red when you wipe. Glad I kept a diary otherwise I wouldn't have remembered that. I know I've always spotted before my AF but I thought it was only a day or so before.

The month I got pregnant I did have a couple of days of spotting but it was implantation spotting. 11 dpo I had a light brown discharge, it lasted for less than a day which is implantation spotting. Then 13 DPO it was a pinkish/brownish discharge for 1 day only. Then from 6 weeks onwards I had dark brown spotting and a couple of days of bright red bleeding all the way up to 12.5 weeks. Horriblly worrying time that was.

Kitty - could do with your thoughts on this as you are very knowledgable on the fertility front Although my temps dropped after I had the spotting this month, they're not hovering at the coverline (except today). I've read that if your temps drop to on/below the coverline in the luteul phase it indicates low progesterone. But do you think the fact that they dropped quite significantly along with the spotting it could indicate probs with progesterone?

I was going to give it another month and see what happens and then go to the docs.

Do you guys think I should go this month? I know it's not normal to spot for several days before an AF. This is my 2nd month of it now. August was the same too.



I worked myself into a right state about it all last night, convinced myself I have fertility problems now. I do remember thinking the same thing when I was TTC with my son so I need to remember that although I do have a short LP (on average 10/11 days) I did manage to get pg with it before.

Sorry moan over

 

[Mildly]

Aww ROM I cannot believe they haven't offered you a scan right away. I think I would be inclined to try and get a second opinion from another practice. Or maybe just march down to the hospital and refuse to move until they give you a scan. I completey understand your second thoughts about TTC but maybe that decision is best left until after you get a proper answer to what is happening to you at the moment.

Bagpuss that is reassuring that you experienced the same spotting the month before your last pregnancy. It just shows that it isn't necessarily hindering your fertility. Also it may follow that the pattern of spotting will change in the month that you get you BFP Another sign to look out for

I was reading up on the agnus castus that I'm taking and apparently that is also good for low progesterone. However I've heard quite mixed reviews on agnus castus itself, so I don't think I would advise you taking it without consulted a herbalist first. It may be worth going to the doctors this month, at least it will give you piece of mind before Christmas ANd for you, I'm sure you aren't experiencing fertilty problems but I know how easy it is to worry

 

[CB23]

I don't really know Bagpuss. It does seem odd to be spotting for so many days pre AF especially when its a relatively short LP. I think a trip to the doctors wouldn't be a bad idea. They can test you progesterone can't they? So if you aren't pregnant this month then they could test you next LP? I would make an appointment in the next few days.

 

[Bagpuss17]

Thanks CB, you're probably right.

I'm sure I'm not pregnant this month, my temp has dropped to coverline this morning so expect my AF to start tomorrow.

That's what's confusing me, does my LP start from my day of spotting or from when AF starts.

Yep, they can test your progesterone levels with a blood test, 7 days after ovulating. I've looked into it. ROM can verify as she has had this done. Not sure they will necessarily investigate it for me but spotting like this isn't good.

So depressing.......