Chatstalkers- July 2008

[reallyoldmum]

Kitty we did have Chat - set up by Babydust and it was mostly old chart stalkers but they have all gone to 2nd Tri now so if you set one up we will keep it warm for this lot

Now get a wriggle on you lot..... because until you join us you are stuck with us in here

 

[Anna23]

well as you all know i'm using fertility friend and only just started, i checked my cervix last night, it took ages to find as it's high up and open, well i'm still learning about my cm and still confused about it however Flossy has helped alot explaining it to me on msn, anyway according to ff i'm possibly fertile! is that becasue my cervix is high and open? and it says that my chart shows that i may have ov'd between cd 29 and cd 35, anyway yesterday me and Flossy worked out going from my usual cycle before i fell pregnant i should ovulate in the next 3/4 days so i have started using the magic medicine if i am ovulating then hopefully it hsould work
so what would the people who are experianced in charting think looking at my chart am i charting wrong?
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/Annaschart

 

[Trudyscrumptious76]

Thanks ROM and Kitty. I may not be around much for a while. I am lurking so don't think I've left you all. It's just everything is so difficult at the moment and TTCing doesn't help. I'm normally a bit down when AF starts but my hormones normally sort themselves out by the second day. I'm finding it hard to shake the down spell at the moment. I know when I'm not 'well' because I don't want to leave the house, every decision becomes a major issue and I get confused more easily than normal. If it doesn't improve by Friday then I'll go to the Docs and get my Anti-D's upped by 10mg. I had a mix up with my tablets last week and only took 20mg instead of 30mg for a couple days. Maybe that combined with AF hormones is why I'm still down. I'll be fine but I just need to just do the essentials in life for a few days in order to get through them. I hope that makes sense. I find a strict routine helps me to cope a little better and TTCing is too much of an issue and will keep me up at night.

Sorry to ramble on I didn't want anyone to think it was because of them. I've had 2 bouts of bad depression which floored me for 6 months at a time. So now when the earliest signs start Phil & I batten down the hatches and follow a routine that has worked time and time again. I love life too much to waste another 6 months in bed. So don't worry about me I'm thinking of you all and keeping up to date with the news. It's just for the next week or so getting up for work, going to work and getting home are my major aims and the effort will wipe me out so lots of early nights.

Hope you get your BFPs loola and sookie!!!

Don't feel bad for me, cheer for me instead that I'm refusing to give up on happiness!! I'll be back very very soon.

Sadi

x

 

[Flossy82]

Trudy

Hope everyone else is doing ok?!

OK now whats going on here my temp yesterday was 36.3 today is 36.2 is it ever going to pick up that i am or have OV'd yet?? Im all of a muddle here

HELP ME someone where am i going wrong

 

[sookie]

Morning Ladies,

Well AF got me on Sunday To be expected really given the situation.

Sadi, I also suffer from depression, and I completely understand what you mean about routine. Keep to it and we will all be here for you when you get back.

Ok, Loola! What's news? How did Mike go with the sperm test?

Kitty, great to have you back! We have missed you. Great to hear all about your symptoms. Keep 'em on coming!

Anna, you might have oved on CD33 or 34. Did you have any watery or EW cm? You have had a temp shift and your cm has gone back to creamy You will just have to see if your temp continues to rise.

Flossy, it's still early in your cycle. You might ov today or in the next few days. The EWCM is great. You just have to wait for 3
consecutive raised temps to confirm ov like Kitty says. Good luck.

ROM, good luck with the scan. I'm sure everything will be fine

Hi to everyone else!

 

[Anna23]

hiya sookie thanks i don't know as i'm rubbish at knowing what my cm is like but i'm slowly learning lol thanks what will it mean if my temp keeps rising?

 

[Flossy82]

Morning all How are we all today then?m geeling pretty ok temps gone up a bit from yesterday and i havent notived any EWCM so maybe i might have OV'd yesterday or not?. Oh well i guess we will see.

 

[reallyoldmum]

Flossy fingers crossed that your temps rise over the next few days - you have certainly got the bedding in

Loola where are you honey - have you tested today?

Ditto Welshpolly - how is it going? You must be due to test any day now.........

Sookie sorry honey You seem pretty up beat about it all though - fingers crossed this is your month

 

[sookie]

Hi Ladies

Anna, ovulation is confirmed by a shift in temperatures. When you look back at your chart at the end of a cycle (or before once you get the hang of it) you should see a temperature shift whereby the temps after ov are at a higher range than those before you oved. This is how we determine when you ov using BBT and charting. In order to be sure that you have oved, you need to have at least 3 consecutive higher temperatures in a row. Then FF will usually pick it up and give you cross hairs on your chart, showing you the Ov day and the coverline.

The coverline allows you to see the shift in temperatures, and ideally, your temps should not fall below that coverline once you have oved. Sometimes this does happen though, and if it is just an odd temperature it is nothing to worry about. It's also possible to see a large dip in temp on the day of implantation if you conceive. This is called an implantation dip. But not all women have one. If, however, your temperatures start to drop again (and you are not getting your period) then it is possible, or even likely, that you have not oved yet and you should treat any subsequent days as fertile. Once again, you wait for 3 consecutive higher temps in a row before you assume you have oved and stop BDing. You should cross check your other fertility signs to help you pinpoint ov. Your cm is your second best sign, if it was watery or like EWCM which is fertile cm, but then dried up, and this coincided with the temp shift, then you probably oved. If you are still having EWCM though, you may not have oved yet. Also, you could use OPKs (ovulation prediction kits) to test for you LH surge. This happens between 24 and 48 hours before you ov.

I hope that this has helped and made sense!

Ok, ladies, I am a bit annoyed with myself Next week, DH and I and my friends who are here visiting from Oz are going to the Amazon for 4 days. We decided on the spur of the moment and organised all the accommodation and flights etc, just as we were leaving for the UK. I have wanted to go before we left Colombia, so am looking forward to it, as it's not the kind of thing you do all the time! But then last night I started looking up about malaria medication and suddenly realised that I can't take it if I am pregnant or ttc. Luckily I am not pregnant or I would have had to cancel the trip, as it is a high risk malaria area. Also, you have to continue taking it for a time once you leave the malaria infected area, so it is possible that I will be out for next month too! There is one type that you only take for a week following your departure, and then doctors advise to wait 2 more weeks before ttc, so if I can get that type I can try again in August/September, but the other types you must take for 4 weeks after I feel stupid for not thinking of it sooner. But then again, I did want to go to the Amazon, and we will be home very soon after that, and then I can really start concentrating on ttc (because I haven't been for the past year!!!!!!!!!!! )

 

[andreaaa]

Can I join you?

I have joined FF today (I'm on Day 2 apparently)... I have no idea what I'm doing really Don't even know how to link it to here!

Can you share some tips?

We were going to wait a little while but we're both getting so impatient now... feels like we have been waiting forever already! Have looked into it all and it seems that as long as you've given your C-Section scar time to heal then its the same risk as any other pg.

We're really excited and J is even choosing baby names already in fact we have decided on middle names - Casey for a boy's middle name (after our Little Man ) and Elivia for a girl's middle name (we were told Casey was a girl and that was going to be her name)

I think were getting a little carried away

Lots of :babydust: to all you lovely ladies xx

 

[Flossy82]

Morning ladies how are we all today?

Well thats it i feel like giving in temp from yesterday was 36.4 - to today is 36.3 CD18 of 24 and still FF is showing no signs of OV? Am i doing anything wrong here? Maybe i havent OV'd at all oh crap i feel pants about it all really

 

[Loola]

Hiya girlies! Sorry I havent been around for a while, Ive been on holiday, well from work anyway, I havent travelled anywhere, but I have been very lucky to have some glorious weather so far! I look rather like a salmon at the moment though, I have some awful burnt bits in the shape of my clothing, like a perfect square on my chest where my t-shirt neckline was. I hate that look! So far Ive had a brilliant time! Went to the fair last week (Im quite a thrill seeker when it comes to rollercoasters and upside down things), so I loved that. This week Ive spent alot of time in my garden, Ive planted some shrubs, painted all my fences brown and my walls white, it looks a bit more Spanish out there now and I am loving it! Other than that Mike and I got absolutely hammered on Monday night and also quite drunk last night too, its been lovely! I actually do feel like im on holiday!

Oh yes I also went to see a Clairvoyant with my Mum on Tuesday. Very interesting that was! She said that she does see a baby for me and it will be a girl, but that it will be after 2 and a half to 3 years of trying before I shall get pregnant, but I will have some good news regarding this when I go travelling. Now obviously Im going to read more into this than I should but it would work out quite nicely that if I get pregnant when Im on honeymoon then that will have been after 2 and a half years of trying! Of course, I dont know exactly when Im going on honeymoon yet! So that was pretty good news for me anyway She also said that my daughter would be born quite small but would be tall like both of her parents (im 5'8 and Mike is 6'4). Another strange thing was that she said we would name her as we always wanted to with the initial I, which is funny as if we had a daughter she would be called Isobel. She said lots of very accurate things about my family and life, and saw a house move for me and a promotion at work and more money so I hope she is right! Shes already got one thing right about my brother, she said that he was going to get a job in a place where he could be with the woman he really loves and would move house. Well yesterday my brother got a job in Swindon, where his new girlfriend lives, and he is now looking for a house there, so that was pretty impressive!

Anyhoo, back to the matter in hand! until approximtely 5 mins ago, I had absolutely no signs of AF coming or any signs of pregnancy either. I was quite frustrated with myself for not temping this month (though my vast amount of holiday drinking would have made my chart hard to interpret anyway!) because I cant really tell whats going on as I only used OPKs. I kept the thought in my mind though that in previous months my OPKs were usually positive a few days before a temp rise actually occurred on my chart. No sooner than I thought that then I started spotting. So into month 16 for me! Im not actually surprised or upset at all. Im getting pretty used to the fact that its going to be a long road for us before we can get the baby we so deserve, but she will be worth it! I knew I wasnt going to be pregnant, even though I did test 3 times just incase as Mike had his results back yesterday and the dreaded word ABNORMAL was the outcome. Now the receptionist at the Dr obviously has no people skills at all, as when Mike asked what Abnormal meant she just said, 'well it means its abnormal done it!' (said in thick welsh mucka accent ) and wouldnt tell him anymore detail than that as the Dr has written him a letter apparently.

Of course Mike wasnt expecting such a vague answer and became completely paranoid that they had found something far more serious like he has HIV or something. After literally hours I managed to convince him that he isnt dying and that the Receptionist doesnt know anything at all about sperm test results and couldnt give any medical advice as she was not a Dr. Needless to say we are going to the Dr later to find out exactly how bad/good it is. Whether its a lifestyle or medical thing - Im convinced its a alcohol and lack of exercise thing, so hopefully it can be improved. Im sure we will find out soon enough! But hopefully this will now be the start of a whole new us! We should lose a lot of weight if we go walking everyday, which will also work out nicely for us to look lush on our wedding day! So now its just getting our asses in to gear and doing it!

Anyway ROM I think you can safely take your coat off my chair in 1st tri for a while! I hope that the other ladies in here will be joining you though! Im going to stick around in Chart Stalkers, and I will start temping again for a while at least just to keep an eye on my cycles. Im looking forward to finding out exactly what is the problem with the sperm to be honest, the not knowing is killing me!

Sookie - hope you have a fabulous time in the Amazon! Im a firm believer in everything happens for a reason and it would be bad to miss out on stuff because of TTC, I spent most of last year not doing stuff incase I was pregnant or going to become pregnant which in retrospect was never going to happen so do as much as you possibly can before you do have a little one and cant go to or at least afford to go anywhere! good luck for when you come back

Trudi - so sorry you are feeling so blue hun I am lucky that I dont really suffer from depression, but Mike does so I know exactly where you are coming from. I look forward to you coming back!

Welcome Anna and Andreaaa! I shall start stalking everyones charts properly again soon I promise! I have been on holiday from everything that I normally do (that includes cleaning and stalking ).

I shall be back soon!

 

[Flossy82]

Ladies am i doing wrong with FF it hasnt picked up OV yet and im on CD 18 of 24 would i have OV'd yet? And whats more i itching really bad down below

 

[Loola]

Flossy I reckon your cycle will be longer this month so dont worry about what day you are on. I think that you have ovulated, the temps arent showing it yet and thats why FF hasnt shown it. You may have a slow rising temperature shift, I often have them so its nothing to worry about. I really wouldnt expect your cycles to go straight back to normal after what you have been through, it may take a couple of months so dont stress too much, it wouldnt surprise me if the stress is what is causing the itch! Though didnt you have thrush before you got pregnant?

Well we have been to the Dr's this morning to find out exactly how Abnormal Mikes sperm test results are, and they are as follows:

Volume - 2ml (2mls or more is normal)
Sperm count - 11 million (20 million or more is normal)
Total count - 22 million (40 million or more is normal)
Sperm motility - 30% (50% or more is normal)
Sperm progression - 3-4 (2 or more is normal)
Normal forms - 20% (30% or more is normal)
Sperm clumping - not seen

But all in all it wasnt as bad as I thought it was going to be! And can definitely be improved with less alcohol and more exercise. He just needs to go back for a second test in 6 months if we havent conceived by then. The Dr wasnt too worried about it all, so that made us both feel better

 

[Anna23]

ohh well that's good that the doc wasn't worried, hopefully in 6 months all will be better although i realy hope you get your bfp soon

 

[sookie]

Hey Loola,

That isn't too bad at all. It's all just a bit below normal. A count of 11 million seems to me that it is probably lifestyle factors. It's not that low, if you know what I mean. My Dh had a count of 6 million, then with improved lifestyle factors it went up to 40 million after 3 months. So don't stress. I know you will get there. And even if for some reason it doesn't improve, something can be done like an IUI or ICSI, as there is sperm there to work with.

Thinking of you
sookie

 

[Flossy82]

Thanks loola Sorry if i keep going on youl all be fed up with me soon And yes that itch i had last time before i got PG with loads of creamy CM.

 

[reallyoldmum]

Flossy I think your high temps in AF are confusing FF - hang on in there and I am sure in a couple of days if your temp still keeps going up you will get cross hairs

 

[Loola]

Thanks Sookie and Anna! You know we actually celebrated his abnormal sperm result because it wasnt half as bad as we expected it to be, and I know that he is seriously going to change his drinking ways and do more exercise, so its a blessing in disguise, god knows what he would have ended up doing to himself if we werent trying for kids. Its great to hear a doctor telling him off and him actually taking it in! Its usually just me nagging him which he doesnt listen to anymore. I am happy thinking its probably going to be at least a year before we get pregnant now, but I dont mind cos I really do believe that it will now, before I wasnt so sure that it was ever going to happen.

Flossy - dont worry hun! Thats what we are all here for! To answer questions! What was the itch last time and did they say why it had happened?

 

[HollyHobby]

Could one of you great ladies please point me to a site that can make sense of temperatures? I'm going to give that a go next month