Chatstalkers- August 2008

[Anna23]

hiya glad you had a good holiday
well i'm off out tonight for my hen night so won't record my temp tomorrow (might still do but it will be disregarded) so do anyone know how drinking can affect your temps?

 

[rusks]

hi sookie sounds like you are having an amazing holiday!!

anna i would personally disregard your temp after a night on the alcohol. and see what happens over the next few days xx wouldn't it be great if you concieved on your hen night you'd have to call your baby calvin in view of the boxer incident

 

[Anna23]

funnily enough tho i like the name calvin

 

[Anna23]

thats really strange my temp seems unusauly low today they seem to keep going down over the past few days lol (apart from yesterdays which is disregarded) lets hope today is deffo ovulation day seeming as my temp is 35.7 (its been dipping from the 11th)

 

[ejjie]

Hello everyone

I've started temping now, I did start a few days ago but I've just updated my chart as I got AF today. I've been back in my diary and I got a +ve OPK on the 20th July but then got no AF, on the 5th August I got CM for 4 days so I think I must have started to OV on the 20th July, for some reason it didn't happen but then on the 5th August I must have actually OV which means that this cycle was 45 days.

Overall that puts me on 3 cycles after coming off the pill, 53 days, 35 days and 45 days so as you can imagine I need some help working out when/if I'm going to OV this cycle!

I'm determined to temp every day now so my charting should help

The really frustrating thing is that we BD on 3 of the 4 days I noted CM this cycle and still nothing!

 

[Anna23]

if you want i'll keep a eye on your chart to see if i can see a patern for you?

 

[HollyHobby]

Hi girls, room for another one?
I had a feeling i would end back in thsi section so I want to start charting from now till october - how do i get one of those yellow graphs?

I'm going to read back through the thread and find out what you all do. I need to keep focused for October so no time like the present to get charting.

Also the sticks, how many do you need a month? I've got a pack of 5 is that enough for one month?

thanks all

 

[HollyHobby]

I cant make head nor tail of ff. i've got an account and filled in my info but cant see where you enter info?

edit: just going to do it on paper lol.

 

[Anna23]

Holly hobby do you have msn? i'll be happy to talk you through it on msn or even in pms if you want

 

[Kittykins]

hey all. Thought I'd pop in, just updated my thread in miscarriage & loss. Am STILL waiting to miscarry, hence not bothering to post much at the moment. Was officially diagnosed as missed m/c at 10weeks today - the sac measures 8 weeks and is even emptier than Mrs Hubbard's cupboard. Had hoped to miscarry naturally because I try to avoid all medical intervention as far as possible, having had far too much in my past. However, this can't go on indefinitely and we're going on holiday in a month's time so it needs to be over by then, both so that I can actually go swimming and sunbathing (sanitary towels and bikinis are not a good combination!) and also because we don't want to risk excessive pain/bleeding/infection whilst two hours away from the nearest (foreign) hospital, especially as travel/medical insurance wouldn't cover me for a m/c that's been diagnosed before the holiday.

Sooooooo - I'm going to sit it out for another fortnight, then I have a scan on the 3rd and if the sac's still there, they'll do a D&C on the 4th to give me time to recover and get the all-clear before the holiday. Boy, am I going to need that holiday!

I'll try to update around the 3rd/4th, for any of my old chartstalker friends still around, but I guess I won't be back in here till we're back from hols at the beginning of October. I still haven't decided whether to take a bit of a break and let my body get back to normal (I'm now going through the severe nausea stage, I threw up last night which seems incredibly cruel of mother nature), or whether to get on with TTC whilst we wait for a referral. It's now over 12 months of TTC so maybe we just hold off TTC till we've done all the tests and so on. Then we'll know whether there's even any point trying, or whether we're going to need help.


Well, enjoy the rest of the summer (ha! some summer), and good luck to you all.

 

[Trudyscrumptious76]

Hi hun, I've replied in the other section too. Not sure about whether you'll get referred or not. According to my doc because I fell pg the year starts again. So I have to wait until November before I can be referred again. I don't want to sound negative I just don't want you to get your hopes up if the answer is going to be the same as mine. Hopefully your local health authority is different. Sorry you're still having symptoms. That is quite cruel isn't it? I hope however it turns out it turns out well and that you have a lovely summer too.

xx

 

[choklatemunky]

Kitty - sorry to hear its a bit of a long haul for you
I hope things sort themselves out one way or the other and you get to have a lovely relaxing holiday - you certainly deserve it!

Hello to all other oldtimers (hmmm, I feel a bit strange calling you lot that but there are a load of newbies who I don't know!) Hope you are all keeping well and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Hello and Goodluck to the newbies too (from an ex-chartstalker)

x

 

[Anna23]

oh i'm sorry to hear that hun i hope you have a nice relaxing holiday

 

[ejjie]

Hi Hollyhobby and Kittykins,

Hope you're both ok after everything that you've been through. Life sucks sometimes.

It's quiet in here at the moment so we could do with the extra people to help us get stalking...

Hollyhobby, charting is confusing to start off with, I nearly didn't bother but the lessons they send you are great and if you keep reading through them, start with just putting your temp in and your BDing and keep on from there. You will pick it up quickly (I feel like I know you already )

Anna, if you wouldn't mind keeping an eye on me that would be perfect, thank you xxx

 

[reallyoldmum]

Kitty I've replied elsewhere but you know you are in my thoughts.

Hollyhobby too I'm so sorry about your outcome but I think charting is a great idea - its easy when you get into it honestly - it really helps you to get to know your body and cycles if nothing else.

Loola - interesting chart honey

 

[ejjie]

Loola - interesting chart honey

Loola it does look good, temps are really high...

 

[HollyHobby]

Anna havnt got msn as my pc crashes, but i've bought a note book today (a hardbacked one saying as it's for special purpose! I spalshed out it cost 65p! ) so going to just chart in that as it's easier for me

kitty i have a feeling october is going to be the lucky month for alot of us, so if october is in your mind i think it would be great if you jumped on the ttc train at that stop! Also read somewhere there are some herbs you can take to start things off if you are wanting to avoid a d&c. I think the more natural the better, so might be worth researching it. Not the nicest of subjects to research I know.

eejie if theres one thing about me i dont hold much back. Yes over time you will know me intimatly! and not in the way that sounded either

I'm not sure how long it takes to get back to normal after a m/c but i'll start temping in the morning and just see how it starts looking over time.

 

[Anna23]

holly hobby if you want i'm happy to record the temps on ff for you if you just tell me what your temp is every morening, just thought it might help that way on the chart you can tell when you've ovulated etc....

 

[Kittykins]

Thanks all.

Not got much time but a quick reply to Trudy - I wondered how come you weren't being referred since you've been trying so long! Have you tried seeing another doctor? I am pretty confident I will get referred because a) when the doc referred me to the EPU when the spotting started, I said about how hard it was that I should finally get pg after a year of TTC, only to lose it and start all over again, and the doc (not my usual) said then that if it did turn out to be a m/c at least I would be referred immediately, and b) the midwife also said I should be referred now, but to wait until after the m/c because the waiting list for appointments is so short. She said if I got the appt through too soon, they wouldn't be able to do the hormone tests if I still had HCG in my system or the ultrasound scans for physical abnormalities if my uterus is still enlarged. So she told me to go back to the doctor as soon as I'd passed the sac/had the D&C, and then by the time the appt comes through 4-6 weeks later, I should be fine for tests.

It may be a postcode lottery, but since two doctors have said they'd refer me if this turned out to be a m/c, and the midwife said that I certainly ought to be referred now, after 12months TTC, no previous live births, two miscarriages (I don't count the chem but they do, apparently) and over 30, then I would have thought that you should be referred too - your circumstances are almost identical to mine. So go fight!



As for TTC again, I'm not even going to try to plan. Firstly I'll have to see when I miscarry, secondly I have to see when the bleeding finally stops (could be another couple of weeks) and thirdly I need to see when I feel ok. Given that I'm currently getting up in the night to throw up, feeling nauseous and exhausted all day and I'm hugely fat and bloated (well, ok, realistically I know I'm not, but I feel it, and I'm definitely bulging a bit), there is a bit of me that is tempted to put off TTC till we get the tests done, just to give myself a chance to get back into shape. To be honest, right now I'm the least fit I've been for ages, I haven't done any exercise for 6 weeks because of not being allowed to swim, and because wearing a sanitary towel all the time makes running, cycling and going to the gym uncomfortable and unpleasant. Basically, I'm physically not in the shape that I would like to be before getting pg. I don't know how long it will take me to get back to fitness, but ideally I'd like to be capable of running a half-marathon or at least a 10-mile race again before I conceive - so all my planning at the moment is going on sorting out an autumn/winter race schedule, and coming up with a realistic training schedule.

I'm beginning to think I should start a new thread - 'chartstalkers (or anyone else) taking a break' - there seem to be more of us not trying, voluntarily or involuntarily, than trying at the moment!

HH - yes, some people suggest blue/black cohosh, dong quai and even tansy. Problem is that many of these herbs can also have rather nasty side effects, including kidney and liver damage. Tansy is one of the most toxic herbs known so I was kind of shocked when I saw it suggested on a website! I too prefer to keep things natural, but I feel that taking herbs to kickstart things is not very natural, so I'm going to wait a bit longer. On balance, I decided if my body doesn't expel everything without help, I would rather go for the surgical option because it has the fastest recovery time. One of the disadvantages of taking herbs - or even medical management of m/c - is that if your body is just not ready to let go of the pregnancy, you could just draw it out over a longer and longer period of time. I do have plenty of red raspberry leaf tea on hand, however, for when the cramps really start - it's supposed to speed up the process and help a little with pain relief. It tastes awful though

Loola - keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Right, well, I'm really off now. I would hang around and give charting advice (FWIW!) but to be honest I'm finding it pretty hard to summon up any enthusiasm for any aspect of TTC right now and I'd rather just get on with my life for the time being. Hope that doesn't sound too selfish! (But Loola, Sookie, Trudy, anyone else - if you do get a BFP, you'd better email me!!!!)

 

[Trudyscrumptious76]

Hi everyone I started to reply to Kitty's post then thought it's so off topic I'll hijack Kitty's idea so started an new thread here. viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88861