*July 2018 Mummies*

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I'm glad you're being so well looked after GG, it's crazy the different levels of treatment women get up and down the country when you compare your care to Jem for example (sorry Jem!)

The heat got to me yesterday, well that mixed with some breathlessness due to this cold I've had. I felt like a terrible mum to dd she watched 2 disney films back to back while I lay with my eyes shut

Hoping for a bether day today I've loads I want to get done

KHTW I'm sure you would have been contacted if they were worried. When is your next midwife app?

Enjoy the bank holidays ladies

Ah bless you. Dd won't mind watching films, perfect way to spend a Sunday for most little ones and you certainly need the rest.

Hope you manage a bit better today though and can enjoy the bank holiday a bit.

KH you're right. The only slightly worrying thing with the, as I now understand it's called, right upper quadrant pain is that it is the liver and it usually signifies issues with the liver so it's why I have to see MW this week.

I feel absolutely fine though.

Hope you all have a lovely bank holiday Monday. Xx

 

[KHTW]

Don't feel guilty Shep, I bet DD loved it! In fact... I am a bit jealous that your child would sit and watch 2 movies back to back!!! All mine sits through it nursery rhymes on youtube (and she is currently fascinated with finger family rhymes which I am begging to hate with passion... would much prefer a Disney movie!!!). Hope you feel better soon x

Thanks, that is what I thought. My next appointment is the 29th but I think I will move it by a week cause I have a consultant booked for the 31st so no point seeing them both so close together.

 

[KHTW]

Can you all remind me - what have we decided re. facebook? Are we opening a group once the babies start arriving? I am not a big facebook user but have previous experience with pregnancyforum vs facebook group after babies were born and honestly in 2015 we found it way easier to ask questions/seek advise/post baby pics on the facebook forum rather than on here. It was especially good if you needed a quick answer cause people would be notified of your post immediately unlike on here. And if some of us don't have facebook it is easy enough to open an account just to use for the group. Let me know your thoughts x

 

[malagueta]

Glad you got checked out GG and everything is ok with the baby. Better to check and be safe!

KH, at my last appointment they said my leukocytes looked a little high but they just assumed I was recovering from a cold or something when I got my bloods done. They didn't seem particularly concerned.

Hope you feel better soon Shep. Although two movies on a Sunday sounds ideal!

I have my first antenatal class today. No idea what this one is on and my midwife seems to have signed me up for them all so I'm going to today's one to see if I can find out what's on when, and pick and choose.

30 weeks tomorrow, eek! 75% done.

 

[Shepherdess]

Can you all remind me - what have we decided re. facebook? Are we opening a group once the babies start arriving? I am not a big facebook user but have previous experience with pregnancyforum vs facebook group after babies were born and honestly in 2015 we found it way easier to ask questions/seek advise/post baby pics on the facebook forum rather than on here. It was especially good if you needed a quick answer cause people would be notified of your post immediately unlike on here. And if some of us don't have facebook it is easy enough to open an account just to use for the group. Let me know your thoughts x

I won't be in a Facebook I don't use it much these days and actively try not to

Malagueta good luck at your class; I hope it's informative

 

[LuckyLaura]

Hey everyone- just had a quick scan to try to catch up and have basically forgotten everything already hahaha

Jem- hope you've made some progress to getting a new MW, that sounds shockingly disorganised. I feel the same way about my MW, I've been to 3 appointments at my local health centre and seen a different MW each time. Anytime I ring about a concern the answer is always ring the EOU with zero advice or answer so I just skip them completely now. They never answer their phone and take years to get back to you so it's stupid anyway to ring.

KHTW- I would be up for a fb group as I can find it difficult when busy to get on here and I always find the format of the website or tapatalk rubbish for trying to find where you last had unread posts and to upload photos you have to crop the life out of them hahaha

Shep- I'm sure your dd loved it and its not like you do that constantly so a wee one-off will most likely be seen as a treat in her eyes while you are there feeling mama guilt hahaha'

I think I have forgotten everything else- oh, Jem im glad you're feeling better about the fresh lick of paint. We painted our room just white and it actually made a world of difference so I totally get that!

GG- I had a similar experience to you which is why I've been absent amongst other reasons.

I normally have a very active baby and she wiggles away all through the day- even when I am very busy and not taking the time to notice it I still become aware of kicks and wiggles anyway and they've been getting stronger. I also have had a pattern to the kicks and wiggles since about 23 weeks or maybe earlier. Always first thing in the morning, then if I eat ANYTHING or drink she wiggles about 15-20 mins after (obvs eating her share haha) and then she likes to kick and keep me awake til the early hours of the morning haha I had been at my sewing class last thursday and it wasn't until around dinner time I realised I hadn't really become aware of any movements so I did a google, did all the recommended things - had a glass of ice cold fizzy lemonade and a kitkat for a sugar kick and lay on my left side to monitor movements for an hour or so. I literally fell asleep within about 3 mins (mother of the year award goes to...)

The following morning when I woke up to bring my husband to work I got back and had breakfast...no movements...I waited a bit and called my community midwife cuz I was still trying to make that work at that stage and no answer as usual. I waited a bit more and had lunch but still no movement after. Rang the EOU cuz the community midwife wasn't looking likely to get back any time soon (and basically didn't) and they said that since I had made the cold drink/fizzy/sugar attempt the night before but not today they needed me to do that again and lie on my left for 2 hours. So I got all prepared and did it and still no movements at all- rang them back and they had me come straight there.

5 uncomfortable boring hours later haha Baby was fine, heartbeat was fine, my bp was fine, but the urinalysis showed that I was mega dehydrated (STILL?!) . I swear every time I go there they shout at me for being dehydrated and if I drink any more water in a day I will drown!! They also shouted at me saying they don't think I am eating enough cuz they basically asked me for a run through of what I had eaten that day and day before- which I still think was loads- I mean I have all three meals, good portions, and I come away from each of them feeling extremely full!!! I used to never eat breakfast so I have even started in an effort to get them to stop saying I am not eating enough! So they've pegged her reduced movement down to dehydration and I'm glad to report since then her normal movements have returned and she's been wiggling away all weekend (the trip to the EOU was friday night)

Because the fun never stops- I also had my GTT on sunday morning. That was a treat and a half. They had such a hard time getting the blood samples, both my arms are like pin cushions and they had to keep trying like 3 or 4 times to get the veins for each time. Plus being told I am not eating enough and dehydrated then starving myself for the morning was not nerve-wracking at all. I'm covered in bruises too now. I then got a delightful phone call in the afternoon informing me that they believe I have gestational diabetes. My 28 week appointment which was meant to be on Friday, which was already changed from my local health centre to the hospital just because of the reduced movement/dehydration episode, has now been moved again to Wednesday this week with the diabetic team and I will get a call tomorrow to inform me of the time I have spent pretty much since yesterday lunchtime being a fountain and crying all over the show. I even cry-drove to pick up my husband.

I can't remember if anyone else receive the unhappy GD confirmation but I have been googling and I think I might starve. You basically can't eat anything. I have to survive on air and water for 13 weeks and all the risks of it about premature delivery/stillbirth etc scare the crap out of me. even more so than when I went to the doctor for the fibroid and he started talking about freaking hysterectomies. Cuz a girl in her twenties who wants more children definitely needs to hear about that

Sorry for the long post. xx

 

[Shanivy]

WELL baby brain well and truly hit me today. Half way down the road with ivy to nursery this morning when I remembered she was off for May Day. Ended up in the park for before 9 am then to the cafe, trying to make it look like I hadn't forgotten at all when we detoured past her nursery, school bag and all Ivy's now outside the front garden with the dog (I'm dog sitting) singing Moana at the top of her voice for everyone to hear

I had a dream last night I asked to be induced at 38 weeks and they said yes. I'm so tempted to beg. I'm so fucking sick of being sick. I basically have the exact same chest thing going on that I had a month ago before my conjunctivitis. And peed myself last night coughing so much. Which is always lovely eh? On a positive note (see I can have them lol) I think I felt a foot in my hand for certain last night. The one thing I can't get sick of is feeling her. It's so amazing in late pregnancy when you start to feel actual body parts. OH Gets freaked out

Hope everyone is doing okay. Mamato hope you're okay now xx

KH basket just wasn't great quality. I bought a white wicker one and it didn't even have holes to put the hood on with. Almost threw it across the room. I hate Facebook. I have an account I don't use but could be persuaded to move into a group if everyone else does as it would be nice to stay in touch xx

Shep glad dd had a great birthday hun. Xx

GG hope you're doing okay and PB how are you now? Jem hope you sort that midwife situation out. Seems like 3rd tri is getting tricky for a lot of us!!

 

[KHTW]

Laura I am so sorry hun, nobody want to have GD!!! I hope you get some good advise from the team and I am sure they won't let you starve. And most importantly - STOP googling x

 

[Shanivy]

Laura took me so long to type my post out I missed yours. My midwife told me they don't advise all that drink fizzy lay on your side crap now for reduced movement. It's astounding areas can be so different. I'd say if you're ever concerned again don't let them bullshit you and just tell them you're coming in. Glad baby was fine. I got told I'm not eating enough too, it makes me feel so guilty because I'm trying

Really sorry you tested positive for GD. But you can definitely get through it. Don't beat yourself up, it isn't your fault. Don't torture youself with the risks either. The risks of a high bmi are similar too, and it's scary seeing it all in black and white, but if you're well managed you'll be fine. You can absolutely do this. I think PB had it with her daughter so may be able to give you better advice hun. Xx

 

[KHTW]

Oh Shan I hate that someof us feel rubbish! It is not fair. We should ALL be glowing!!!! Maybe ask for the induction, who knows?! x

The reason I am suggesting FB is that I am pretty sure I will struggle to log in and keep up with posts here, having a newborn and a toddler to look after... FB is just easier to access. But we could also have both! Will see how many people would like to join FB group as well x

 

[LuckyLaura]

Thanks KHTW & Shan It actually helps a lot to have someone to talk to about this. I don't want to talk about it to my husband too much cuz he will just get really worried and he hates seeing me upset. Just feeling mega low about it all which isn't helped by the fact I can't sleep decently one single night, I'm peeing 101 times per night and can't get comfortable so I'm really overtired and everything seems worse when you're overtired.

Between the ridiculous extreme can't-move sickness until 18 weeks, the never-ending nausea, constant 3 or 4 day long headaches, then all the abdominal pain from the fibroid to the point I could barely sit never mind walk, the millions of colds and coughs, now reduced movement and GD...being told off for not eating enough, not drinking enough...being told baby is showing small in 3 different scans... I feel like a complete ingrate and I am so happy I am capable of being pregnant, and that it happened but I just want her out safely and this nightmare over. I feel like I can't relax until the birth is over and she's safe.

That did kinda make me laugh Shan that you had to pretend you hadn't forgotten, just bringing the schoolbag to the park haha I did have a lightbulb moment there where I was like "ahhh, that's why my dad is on the sofa and not at work" I had wondered what he was doing here hahaha xx

 

[Shanivy]

KHTW I'm struggling to keep up to date on here now lately to be honest so it could well be an idea for a private group. I feel like I'm missing everything and always on catch up! As long as we didn't leave anyone out

Ugh me too. I'm sure she'd just look at me if I asked to be induced. The though there could possibly be an extra 4 weeks like this is a bit much. There's certainly waaay better reasons for induction than just being ill all the time. I'm just on a bit of a downer right now. Ive decided not to go for a homebirth too. OH wants me speak to the midwife at my 34 week because he thinks I'm depressed. Which sounds ridiculous really over colds and sickness. But honestly I just can't wait to have her out now xx

 

[LuckyLaura]

You should maybe consider having a chat with someone shan if you are feeling down and rubbish. Bottling it up will only do more harm. It doesn't have to mean you are depressed or receive some diagnosis but speaking to someone else, a third party that you don't need to stress about worrying out of their mind, and getting another branch of support can be really helpful.

Also pre-natal depression is a real thing not just post-natal!! xx

 

[Shanivy]

Thanks KHTW & Shan It actually helps a lot to have someone to talk to about this. I don't want to talk about it to my husband too much cuz he will just get really worried and he hates seeing me upset. Just feeling mega low about it all which isn't helped by the fact I can't sleep decently one single night, I'm peeing 101 times per night and can't get comfortable so I'm really overtired and everything seems worse when you're overtired.

Between the ridiculous extreme can't-move sickness until 18 weeks, the never-ending nausea, constant 3 or 4 day long headaches, then all the abdominal pain from the fibroid to the point I could barely sit never mind walk, the millions of colds and coughs, now reduced movement and GD...being told off for not eating enough, not drinking enough...being told baby is showing small in 3 different scans... I feel like a complete ingrate and I am so happy I am capable of being pregnant, and that it happened but I just want her out safely and this nightmare over. I feel like I can't relax until the birth is over and she's safe.

That did kinda make me laugh Shan that you had to pretend you hadn't forgotten, just bringing the schoolbag to the park haha I did have a lightbulb moment there where I was like "ahhh, that's why my dad is on the sofa and not at work" I had wondered what he was doing here hahaha xx

I know how you feel hun. It's a shame some women can have a fabulous pregnancy and others just can't. As someone who did have a fabulous pregnancy with DD and didn't get why everyone wasn't loving pregnancy, I've definitely learned the hard way second time around. Same for sleeping. Right now it's my cough making me cough so much I'm sick. Or I piss myself a little (yay) Otherwise it's my back or hips or just plain uncomfortableness. At least we're in the final stretch now though.

Haha I was mortified. At first I was like why is the lollipop lady not here...okay. Not much kids around...well it's always like that at 8.15...went to cut through the doctors to nursery...why is still it shut OH FUCK. Haha. Must have been loads of cars driving past knowing rightly too. Xx

 

[Shanivy]

You should maybe consider having a chat with someone shan if you are feeling down and rubbish. Bottling it up will only do more harm. It doesn't have to mean you are depressed or receive some diagnosis but speaking to someone else, a third party that you don't need to stress about worrying out of their mind, and getting another branch of support can be really helpful.

Also pre-natal depression is a real thing not just post-natal!! xx

Thanks lovely.. I've had depression before as a teenager but I don't know if I can be bothered going doing that route, being taken off my green pathway etc. I'm sure it's all to do with how shitty I've felt for so long it's just getting me down. But I maybe will mention it depending on how I feel in a fortnight xx

 

[LuckyLaura]

Thanks KHTW & Shan It actually helps a lot to have someone to talk to about this. I don't want to talk about it to my husband too much cuz he will just get really worried and he hates seeing me upset. Just feeling mega low about it all which isn't helped by the fact I can't sleep decently one single night, I'm peeing 101 times per night and can't get comfortable so I'm really overtired and everything seems worse when you're overtired.

Between the ridiculous extreme can't-move sickness until 18 weeks, the never-ending nausea, constant 3 or 4 day long headaches, then all the abdominal pain from the fibroid to the point I could barely sit never mind walk, the millions of colds and coughs, now reduced movement and GD...being told off for not eating enough, not drinking enough...being told baby is showing small in 3 different scans... I feel like a complete ingrate and I am so happy I am capable of being pregnant, and that it happened but I just want her out safely and this nightmare over. I feel like I can't relax until the birth is over and she's safe.

That did kinda make me laugh Shan that you had to pretend you hadn't forgotten, just bringing the schoolbag to the park haha I did have a lightbulb moment there where I was like "ahhh, that's why my dad is on the sofa and not at work" I had wondered what he was doing here hahaha xx

I know how you feel hun. It's a shame some women can have a fabulous pregnancy and others just can't. As someone who did have a fabulous pregnancy with DD and didn't get why everyone wasn't loving pregnancy, I've definitely learned the hard way second time around. Same for sleeping. Right now it's my cough making me cough so much I'm sick. Or I piss myself a little (yay) Otherwise it's my back or hips or just plain uncomfortableness. At least we're in the final stretch now though.

Haha I was mortified. At first I was like why is the lollipop lady not here...okay. Not much kids around...well it's always like that at 8.15...went to cut through the doctors to nursery...why is still it shut OH FUCK. Haha. Must have been loads of cars driving past knowing rightly too. Xx

It's good that you've at least had the experience of a fabulous pregnancy the first time. I do feel happy for anyone who is breezing through it and I wouldn't wish struggles on them but I'd just love a few weeks of peace hahaha

I'm kinda relieved you said that, I've come close to peeing myself a few times lately when I sneeze or cough or wake up in the night with little to no warning I need to pee haha I feel like my body is going through all these weird changes and some of them are making me feel really unattractive.

Sorry if TMI but last night I noticed this tiny little wet dot on my pj top and then realised it was right where my nipple was and then I was like OMG AM I LEAKING. I have never felt so gross to have to go into the bedroom where my husband was with this leaky boob. Also when we have sex I am pretty much thinking 24/7 "please don't do anything weird" to my body haha

Im sorry to laugh but I still find that hilarious, that's totally something I would do and at least Ivy got to play at the park nice and early haha xx

 

[malagueta]

Sorry you're still feeling rubbish Shan. There's no harm in asking for an induction at 38 I guess? You never know, maybe they'll give you one! And I laughed at you forgetting about May Day and being in the park at 9am. That's very keen, haha! Pre-natal depression exists though so may be worth speaking to someone at your next appointment.

Laura, sorry you're having such a rough time, but as someone said before (my brain is mush) GD is manageable and Google is not your friend at times like this! See what the diabetic team say at your appointment. Sometimes I think midwives and doctor's aren't very sensitive at getting their point across either and they all seem like they're getting on at you. You're doing your best and you've not had the easiest pregnancy so I'd say you're doing as well as you can! Almost three quarters of the way there.

Well I just got back from my first antenatal class. I had a printout with all my appointments, saying the class started at 11:30, welllll nope, it started at 10:30. So why the fuck does the printout say every class at 11:30? "Don't pay attention to the paper thing, your midwife must have written it down elsewhere for you" I was told. Great. And I've seen my midwife once at my first ever appointment, every other appointment here has then been with a different doctor/consultant/obstetrician/nurse/whoever and I've never had the same person twice. So I missed the first hour and apparently classes are two hours long here, and I'm meant to attend them all and can't pick and choose. Who has time to go to 10 antenatal classes that are 2 hours long each??

Re Facebook group, I'd be fine either on here or Facebook.

 

[LuckyLaura]

You should maybe consider having a chat with someone shan if you are feeling down and rubbish. Bottling it up will only do more harm. It doesn't have to mean you are depressed or receive some diagnosis but speaking to someone else, a third party that you don't need to stress about worrying out of their mind, and getting another branch of support can be really helpful.

Also pre-natal depression is a real thing not just post-natal!! xx

Thanks lovely.. I've had depression before as a teenager but I don't know if I can be bothered going doing that route, being taken off my green pathway etc. I'm sure it's all to do with how shitty I've felt for so long it's just getting me down. But I maybe will mention it depending on how I feel in a fortnight xx

I've been moved from low risk to high risk due to the GD. Fun times. No water birth, no home from home unit which I had only just decided I would like so now that's out

I had to go down the depression route and antidepressants during all the court stuff. They put it on my medical record as "situational low mood" cuz I never stopped stressing that I felt it was the circumstances and that if they cleared up tomorrow Id have felt perfectly chipper haha The reality is that I still struggle but its more anxiety now. I worry constantly that now I have my husband that he will be taken off me. I have nightmares all the time where he is deported or literally ripped out of my arms and I never see him again which obviously wouldn't happen cuz even if they sent him back to India I could fly there haha Its not like he would drop off the planet. I've woken up crying countless times xx

 

[LuckyLaura]

Sorry you're still feeling rubbish Shan. There's no harm in asking for an induction at 38 I guess? You never know, maybe they'll give you one! And I laughed at you forgetting about May Day and being in the park at 9am. That's very keen, haha! Pre-natal depression exists though so may be worth speaking to someone at your next appointment.

Laura, sorry you're having such a rough time, but as someone said before (my brain is mush) GD is manageable and Google is not your friend at times like this! See what the diabetic team say at your appointment. Sometimes I think midwives and doctor's aren't very sensitive at getting their point across either and they all seem like they're getting on at you. You're doing your best and you've not had the easiest pregnancy so I'd say you're doing as well as you can! Almost three quarters of the way there.

Well I just got back from my first antenatal class. I had a printout with all my appointments, saying the class started at 11:30, welllll nope, it started at 10:30. So why the fuck does the printout say every class at 11:30? "Don't pay attention to the paper thing, your midwife must have written it down elsewhere for you" I was told. Great. And I've seen my midwife once at my first ever appointment, every other appointment here has then been with a different doctor/consultant/obstetrician/nurse/whoever and I've never had the same person twice. So I missed the first hour and apparently classes are two hours long here, and I'm meant to attend them all and can't pick and choose. Who has time to go to 10 antenatal classes that are 2 hours long each??

Re Facebook group, I'd be fine either on here or Facebook.

Thats a total joke- "ignore the printed time on the page that we gave you" ...how can they not see how sloppy and incompetent that is!!! Also if the MW was to write it down shouldnt she have scored out the 11.30 and wrote in 10.30. Why do they confuse matters

I've the same thing Mala, Ive never seen the same person twice. Well only at the emergency Obstetrics unit and that's hardly useful haha xx

 

[PeanutButter]

I'd join a FB group, as long as was a secret group. Don't want people knowing I use PF x