MAP

[knopk@]

By the way here is the comparison of methods, quite interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_birth_control_methods

 

[redbear]

i just dont think abstinence would work for me i would get carried away and end up using a condom anyway. which to be fair a lot of people use as a main source of contraception and are not immature. if a young girl asked me i would tell her to talk about the correct way of using condoms and what type are reliable for her partner with family planning. people having sex not in a relationship use them exclusively because of std's and are fine its rare that people have a bad reaction like my oh but we know after one split what caused it and will use a different type. if i had took map if i didn't want to be pregnant i would still be fine now. x

 

[leesey]

With all due respect, I wouldn't be listening to anyone telling you you'll be fine and not get pregnant. Not how the world works and if he's convinced himself it'll be okay, he could be in for a bloody huge shock if it wasn't. One you would likely get given the responsibility for.

WSS ^

You're both adults and need to make adult decisions rather than rely on gut feelings etc.

I agree about a visit to family planning xx

 

[evie_smith]

That's why they were using condoms to protect. They were being careful. They weren't being silly and just seeing what happened some people use condoms as their main contraception and if that's what they want to do that's up to them. They only got a bad batch and that's not saying the next box won't be fine condoms are 99.9% safe and protect from sti's, std's and pregnancy.

Bab make sure your using water based lubes that you can buy in the shops that are safe with condoms. Baby oil and body moisturisers will make the condom split.

Also even tho I have had problems with none latex condoms I've also used them for over a year in between pregnancies and for over a year before this pregnancy and didn't have any problems xxx

 

[titch]

I thought most condoms had spermicide onthem too, so if they split, at least theres a small amount of protection inthe spermicide? So inthat way its marginally better than just not using a condom at all.

I think you can buy spermicide lube in boots. I remember being told about a sponge once.... anyone know anything about that?!

 

[LikeJohnnYoko]

That's why they were using condoms to protect. They were being careful. They weren't being silly and just seeing what happened some people use condoms as their main contraception and if that's what they want to do that's up to them. They only got a bad batch and that's not saying the next box won't be fine condoms are 99.9% safe and protect from sti's, std's and pregnancy.

Bab make sure your using water based lubes that you can buy in the shops that are safe with condoms. Baby oil and body moisturisers will make the condom split.

Also even tho I have had problems with none latex condoms I've also used them for over a year in between pregnancies and for over a year before this pregnancy and didn't have any problems xxx

I do, myself. Thing is, Charlene (and everyone really) could do with knowing more about contraception methods, their efficacy and their options. It's not the fact the condom broke that's the thing, this is about the MAP, and using that, and chossing not to use it the second time.

I thought most condoms had spermicide onthem too, so if they split, at least theres a small amount of protection inthe spermicide? So inthat way its marginally better than just not using a condom at all.

I think you can buy spermicide lube in boots. I remember being told about a sponge once.... anyone know anything about that?!

Depends on the condoms, and tbh getting them from eBay you've no guarantees about them at all.

Sponge = a douche. Don't think that's terribly effective, and has fallen out of use.

 

[evie_smith]

I don't know if its the same everywhere but when I used the MAP when I forgot one if my pills to make sure. They said I couldn't have one within the next 3 weeks as its so strong it's not recommended. They told me this was the same general advice they give to everyone using it. This is in Birmingham x

 

[LikeJohnnYoko]

I don't know if its the same everywhere but when I used the MAP when I forgot one if my pills to make sure. They said I couldn't have one within the next 3 weeks as its so strong it's not recommended. They told me this was the same general advice they give to everyone using it. This is in Birmingham x

Advice changes as more research is done and different types of pill are introduced. There is more than one type of MAP.

 

[charlene09]

Evie I don't know if you can remember the name of your MAP but mine was called levonelle

 

[evie_smith]

Evie I don't know if you can remember the name of your MAP but mine was called levonelle

I can't remember bab it was about 4 years ago. Have you googled levonelle it might say on a nhs web page if its ok to take another - just incase. But I think it's really good your using condoms and being really sensible x

 

[leesey]

Evie I don't know if you can remember the name of your MAP but mine was called levonelle

I can't remember bab it was about 4 years ago. Have you googled levonelle it might say on a nhs web page if its ok to take another - just incase. But I think it's really good your using condoms and being really sensible x

If you read my previous posts I quoted the information that levonelle is safe to take as many times as required but is not reliable as regular contraception. I have chqrlene a link.

Just to clarify, at no point have I said using condoms is irresponsible, but that leaving things up to fate after that method has failed is quite so.

ID say that having 'accidental' sex is not sensible, and going against medical instructions wrt the pill is not that sensible either.

Once again, please just seek advice from fqmily planning or Brooke who know far more about this than us!

 

[charlene09]

Evie I don't know if you can remember the name of your MAP but mine was called levonelle

I can't remember bab it was about 4 years ago. Have you googled levonelle it might say on a nhs web page if its ok to take another - just incase. But I think it's really good your using condoms and being really sensible x

If you read my previous posts I quoted the information that levonelle is safe to take as many times as required but is not reliable as regular contraception. I have chqrlene a link.

Just to clarify, at no point have I said using condoms is irresponsible, but that leaving things up to fate after that method has failed is quite so.

ID say that having 'accidental' sex is not sensible, and going against medical instructions wrt the pill is not that sensible either.

Once again, please just seek advice from fqmily planning or Brooke who know far more about this than us!

I have just spoken to my health visitor about this who has just left as we speak and she did say it has been transfered to a different hospital because they can't transfer me to the hospital I gave birth as it isn't the general hospital for my GP. Which I wasn't told,

I am going to ring my GP again and ask them what is going on and why I wasn't told this, I'll let you all know what's going on.

tapatalking so cannot see tickers! sorry for typos also!

 

[charlene09]

Evie I don't know if you can remember the name of your MAP but mine was called levonelle

I can't remember bab it was about 4 years ago. Have you googled levonelle it might say on a nhs web page if its ok to take another - just incase. But I think it's really good your using condoms and being really sensible x

I have just googled it and it does say yes you can take 2 per menstrual cycle which I am pretty annoyed about as I didn't know

tapatalking so cannot see tickers! sorry for typos also!

 

[evie_smith]

It was with in the first 75 hours of taking the first one so hopefully you are covered for this month xxx

At least if it happens again you know for next time - fingers crossed there won't be any more splitting condoms for you xx

 

[leesey]

It was with in the first 75 hours of taking the first one so hopefully you are covered for this month xxx

At least if it happens again you know for next time - fingers crossed there won't be any more splitting condoms for you xx

Evie if you remember Charlene took the morning after pill within 72 hours the first time the condom split, but then the following time another condom split and she did not take the morning after pill. That's what this is about. She is not covered for this month, and that is why she has made a thread in the pregnancy section as she is technically in a 2ww.

I think Charlene obviously now realises that those condoms she bought are crap and to invest in a better brand, rather than keeping her fingers crossed. We all learn from our mistakes I suppose!

 

[evie_smith]

I didn't say she was covered I said hopefully - it's not all about facts it's about being nice and trying to keep someone's hopes up. Just because she has had the split condom I don't think she needs to be told again and again I find you very condescending and at the end of the day what happens happens. The least you can do after stating the fact it was not covered in this month and she should be looking into contraception - which is sounds like she already has and then telling her several times she has done wrong - by the sounds of your text. Quoting my text and telling very almost patronisingly what I've said and how it should be and things aren't covered when in Fact she properly wants to be comforted she knows the risks. She knows she is in the tww you don't need to keep telling her and telling her
"We learn for our mistakes"

Seriously it's like your scolding your daughter!

Sorry if this comes across as rude I don't want to get into an argument, also apologising if you both actually really close and talk like that all the time. But try being nice love x

 

[LikeJohnnYoko]

I didn't say she was covered I said hopefully - it's not all about facts it's about being nice and trying to keep someone's hopes up. Just because she has had the split condom I don't think she needs to be told again and again I find you very condescending and at the end of the day what happens happens. The least you can do after stating the fact it was not covered in this month and she should be looking into contraception - which is sounds like she already has and then telling her several times she has done wrong - by the sounds of your text. Quoting my text and telling very almost patronisingly what I've said and how it should be and things aren't covered when in Fact she properly wants to be comforted she knows the risks. She knows she is in the tww you don't need to keep telling her and telling her
"We learn for our mistakes"

Seriously it's like your scolding your daughter!

Sorry if this comes across as rude I don't want to get into an argument, also apologising if you both actually really close and talk like that all the time. But try being nice love x

Leesey is being nice. Also how does it help to get her hopes up over this - surely it's better to stay grounded and realistic because if it's the wrong result that will be even harder to deal with.

Whilst it's noble that you feel the need to protect Charlene on this thread, it is completely unnecessary. Everyone on this thread has been respectful and has given a lot of time and information to help Charlene.

ETA: there is nothing wrong what what Leesey said in response to you. What you said was factually incorrect, and it's better to have it clear that it is for other people who may read the thread and believe they are covered when they are definitely not.

 

[evie_smith]

Hi bab I understand it was factually incorrect and maybe I do feel the need to protect her a little it's just I feel like she had been told the same thing again and again and she knows the consequences of her actions. I just feel like she doesn't need to be told again and again and what will be will be there is no point going over it again and again. Also earlier I didn't see the post the the link to her pill so I was just trying to help. But she prob just needs a virtual ((hug)) she already knows the risks then when the condom split again it was an accident and she didn't take the precautions again but that's up to her all we can do surely is support what ever she is going through? We have already advised no point going on about it x

 

[knopk@]

I think everyone is trying to help but i do think its important to be straight to the point as well as supportive.
From what i read, she was just fobbed off at the docs and i personally think she needed encouragement to be firmer with them and not rely on things happening.
But i do believe we are largely in charge of our lives, we cant just say its fate and give up. Iykwim

Tapatalking so cant see signatures

 

[evie_smith]

Yea I know what you mean bab x
I think half if it is my hormones I'm having a stress and I've calmed down a little now sorry I went off on one I just felt like I needed to say something at the time as what is done is done and I think she wasn't being easy on the situation just trying to make light of it all as she knows its serious and its allot to stress about as well sometimes how ever serious the situation I think we all need a little light.