The Wright Stuff topic today (Gay Books For Junior Schools)

[Urchin]

Mason is 5 and he barely knows about same-sex relationships and what they mean.
Knowing kids books though it's far more likely to be introduced as "daddy's friends Bill and Bob", With no more explanation as to who they are and if they live together or not. Kids books, especially National Curriculum books don't "shove" anything down kids throats. They are very namby pamby if you ask me. It's not like Mason's current books explain what mummys and daddys get up to, they are just players in the story. I wouldn't expect anything more for a gay couple introduced in the books.

 

[Dee1985]

urchin would you mind mason knowing about gays at his age now?

just asking becasue he is the same age as my tyler

 

[lauramumof2]

one of the books was about 2 lighthouse men who just happened to live together in the lighthouse. One was about a boy who woke up a girl and nobody noticed and im not sure what the last one was about.

Nobody kicked up a fuss about bert and ernie!

 

[Minxy]

Or noddy and big ears!

 

[Jo]

Dionne i know it probaly wasn't aimed at me, but do you think i was wrong in telling Emily what gay meant?

erm i'm not bein sarcy or anything and i know it can come across like that in text

I'm just interested if you think i told her too young

BTW didn't go into the ins and outs if you'll excuse the pun

 

[Urchin]

urchin would you mind mason knowing about gays at his age now?

just asking becasue he is the same age as my tyler

He knows a limited amount, cos I won't lie when he asks me questions. He knows 2 gay guys that I work with.

It depends on what you mean by "knowing about gays" I wouldn't mind him knowing that some men love men, cos what exactly does that mean to a 5 year old? Especially when Mason loves his cousin Luke.

As far as sex acts go, then of course you have to draw the line, he doesn't even know how babies are made.

I think TBH this whole issue is made to get everybody riled up when really the books just aren't going to be anything that bad. What exactly were Bungle George and Zippy doing tucked up in bed together on Rainbow? Did anyone pick up on THAT when they were 5 years old?

 

[Ebony_Mommy]

i agree with u dionne

 

I voted for, it would of done me good in school to know I wasn't abnormal (I'm bisexual and knew for a long time)

Obviously as a kids this wouldn't be shoved in their faces, just touched on like sex for 'normal' people is at that age.

 

[Jo]

so very true Urchin

Emily asked me what gay was so i told her how she would understand that it was 2 men/woman that loved each other like mummies and daddies loved each other.

She asked me if the kissed like mummies and daddies do and i told her yes they did.

But then she asked me if she was gay 'cos she loved her freinds(bless her) so i told her no of course not

She then understood a lot more and knows the differance between been gay and giving someone ( a same sex friend) a kiss on the cheek or a cuddle

I try to be as honest and open as i can with her and answer her questions in a way she will understand

She knows about periods and why we have them, she knows where babies come from and how they are made ( not sex but the egg and sperm bit) and she has just taken it in her stride

But reading some comments that were made about innocence has now got me question my own methods with her

 

[Ebony_Mommy]

it takes away innocence from kids

'being too honest or open' whatever you wanna put it

then we wonder.. why kids are growing up so fast

 

[Dee1985]

Jo ild never say you were wrong.

what did you tell her though?
did she ask you or did you sit down and tell her?

EDIT... sorry Jo i just read your post above, no i dont think you are wrong atall and dont dout what you have told her i think it is good being honest with her.


i personaly what my child to stay unaware for as long as possible but then there are the down sides to that too
. eg when all the kids in the playground talk bout sex and my child looks silly because they dont no. i remember when i was 10 girls were talking about bj's they were 3yrs older then me and i laughed with them pretending i knew what they were on about the one girl said "well what is a bj then Dionne" i said when you blow on a willy the entire school knew about it and i was gutted

 

[Jo]

everything i have told her ^ (read my long post lol)
^
She has asked me, i would never tell her something i didn't think
she was ready for

I dunno i am doubting myself now though

 

[ToriElla]

Jo, it sounds like you are explaing things in a nice diplomatic way (about periods etc) kids ask questions and they need to know some things for their own protection too. But not so that any of it takes their innocence away. They need to learn what is private and what is not and i think it is best for the parents to teach them certain things before they hear it in a vulgar way in the playground.

I'm voting no cos I don't think it is necessary at this age to learn too much of the ways of the world. what the parents want their child to know and understand should be up to them to sensitively put forward to their children. Every child develops at different times and has different needs and questions so at school they should learn what they need to know and learn the more important stuff from their parents.

 

[Dee1985]

I dunno i am doubting myself now though

dont be silly. dont doubt what you have done you done it cause it felt right and she took it fine by the sounds of it.

i remember when i had Diors ears pierced and some members on here made me feel so awfull i couldnt stop crying and was riddled with guilt.

but no point getting yourself down over it when its done and dusted.

 

[Ebony_Mommy]

havin ur childs ears pierced and homosexuality.. is waaaaaaay different

im piercing my childs ears.. and sod everyone who has somtheing to say about it..... shes mine.. not theirs

 

[Dee1985]

havin ur childs ears pierced and homosexuality.. is waaaaaaay different

im piercing my childs ears.. and sod everyone who has somtheing to say about it..... shes mine.. not theirs

i no hun im just saying to her dont get upset over some thing thats already been done. cause thats what happened to me and its not nice when people make you doubt what you have done as a parent

 

[Jo]

I dunno i am doubting myself now though

dont be silly. dont doubt what you have done you done it cause it felt right and she took it fine by the sounds of it.

i remember when i had Diors ears pierced and some members on here made me feel so awfull i couldnt stop crying and was riddled with guilt.

but no point getting yourself down over it when its done and dusted.

Thanks hun, i just hate the thought of people on here maybe thinking i have taken my daughters innocence away from her

I remeber you getting her ears peirced, in fact when i watched your little vid you made Oh was with me and when Dior came on screen i actually said to screen "oh Dior you don't know how much trouble they caused for your mum" OH looked at me like i was crackers

Btw no 10 -13 yr old should know what a bj is and i would have prob said the same as you

 

[Dee1985]

no you have not if my children as me what gay is il have to tell them.
how do you think i felt people told me what i had done was child abuse

lol an elephant never forgets.

any way back to topis

 

[Ebony_Mommy]

oral sex is still a taboo where im from..

not to mention gays.. they get killed...

when i came here i was shocked when 13 year olds would talk about fiving head.. as if its nourishing to them

 

[budge]

oral sex is still a taboo where im from..

not to mention gays.. they get killed...

when i came here i was shocked when 13 year olds would talk about fiving head.. as if its nourishing to them

fiving heads ???