**The All New 'No Sleep Club' thread**

[Gem & Leland]

im still feeling rotton ! might aswell be in labour again

 

[evemarie8]

I have to be up at 6.30 to get Clark ready to go to my Mom's house and be at work for 8.30 but I am still wide awake!!

I can see us having a snuggle on the sofa nap tomorrow afternoon!

 

[Gem & Leland]

i was still up at 3 , but being online was making me dizzy and sick and i still woke up early , and cant get back to sleep even tho hubby is feeding boy for me

enjoy your afternoon nap ! MIL is visiting so i wont get one

 

[fothers]

go Seed

long may it continue

 

[Marijana FC]

Hey girls! How is everybody doing?
I must admit that we are doing pretty good. Danica started sleeping 7-4/5am, has a little feed and then sleeps until 7am! How good is that?! I am not sure that I should still be posting here. But I am so used to it!
I really, really hope that this isn't just a phase and that we are finally settling into a calmer period of our lives (it was about time, if you ask me). We are working under sleep clinic supervision and I am very impressed with them. They don't look only at sleep issue but are trying to understand a whole cycle: family relations, eating/not eating, playing, naps...Very impressed indeed.


to you all!

 

[Marijana FC]

Hi Ladies!

How is everybody doing? It seems that the 'no sleep club' has gone silent. Hope that is a sign that we are all sleeping more
We are OK; danica is still occasionally sleeping throough but most often she wakes up once (either around 11pm or 2am), has a little snack and then goes back to sleep. I know it's not perfect sleeping but I am so happy with the changes!

from us!

 

[newmum]

"It will get better" ...I think if I hear that again ..

Oh no... another bad night? It's hard hey? Do you think she fusses around because you are near her - because she is used to you entertaining her in the day time so tries to have it at night too?

LO wakes up more if she is near me or in our bed. It hardly ever happens but I tried a couple of times and she just goes crazy rolling, playing, climbing etc. she is better in her own bed but I have to get up and sort her out a few times because she is upside down, or standing up etc.

 

[newmum]

which teeth is she working on? i always think she must be gonna get about 10 with the fuss it causes us she does seem to get two at a time though. The bad thing is that she is a really slow teether so it takes her about 3 months to cut them and as soon as they are through she starts on the next

What does little seed do when she fusses? Crying or moving or everything? LO is so so strong that when she starts rolling around I have to either pin her down or leave her. drives me mad sometimes.

 

[newmum]

Midna - hope you get some sleep tonight now that fang has cut through. The bottom ones seem to be the really sharp ones but the top ones are just flat and blunt. Not that that will help when she shreds you Think we are back teething again ...don't know how many times I had to get up last night.

 

[Marijana FC]

Midna - great news about the tooth! Hope that it will positively affect Seed's sleeping.

Hanna - sorry to hear that Eden is waking up lots again. Do you think it's teething again?

Lisa - how is the book going? have you started following the programme? any progress yet?

We are still doing OK. The clinic advised to start dreamfeeding Danica at 11pm. I was a bit unsure about it but gave it a try and it worked really well. Danica didn't even wake up while I was feeding her and it slept until the morning after that (6.16am ) She got her 4th tooth now and it cutting through didn't affect her sleeping that much (she was waking up once or twice and would settle straight back - hurray!)
But I think that the main change in danica's sleeping happened when I changed my attitude towards her sleep. I really don't want to sound like I've solved all of my problems and now want to preach you - just want to share some experience. Anyway, she started sleeping better when I got up one morning and said to myself and to her: This is ridiculous; you are going to sleep today. I put her in the cot and sat next to it; Danica was crying but I didn't want to pick her up. Just talked to her and stroke her head and back. SHe stopped crying after a while but it still took half an hour but she did settle on her own in the end and slept really well for a long stretch. As my consultant from the clinic says, it is not our job to make them sleep but to make them comfortable and relaxed enough so that they can fall asleep on their own. I know it sounds so obvious but it wasn't until she said it that I actually realised what I was doing wrong.

Anyway, sorry for the long post! for you all!

 

[JamieIsabella]

Grace woke at 4:50am this morning
I put her back to bed and it's now 6:57am and she's still sound asleep
I've been up since when she first woke, I'm one of those people who get woken and can't go back to sleep!

 

[saffydreamer]

Omg Ava has always been a crap sleeper, but now shes taken it to the next level, we went on holiday last week only to Miks nans and she was a nightmare! she was up every 30 mins throughout the nights then wide awake at 3.30am-4am nothing got her back to sleep, not even letting her sleep in our bed so frustrating!! then come 8am shes knackered and sleeps for 2 hours, i thought maybe its because we are on holiday but nopers shes doing it this week too,
its ok Atm because Miks on holiday so i do the nights and he takes over at 6am so i can sleep for a few hours, but hes back to work next week
Im dreading it sooooooooooooooooooo bad!!!
sleep deprivation is torture, please sleep Ava Quaver!!!

 

[saffydreamer]

Also i forgot to add, shes hardley ever grumpy, just starts a little winge when she wants a nap in the day which is rare after the 2hrs at 8am, She has Never slept through the night, and shes 10 months old, do some babies need no sleep? she goes to sleep at 7pm, we have tried keeping her up later but she gets over tired and wont settle, wouldnt be so bad if she went straight back down when she woke but no-chance, sorry to babble on

 

[saffydreamer]

Hey Mids,
its a nightmare! she has had 2x 20 min naps today and is a grump! If this keeps up i think ill go insane!!!!
xxxx
hope you get some sleep tonight doubt i will xxxx

 

[newmum]

I didn't have anything new to write. It was getting better but now we are on hold because of a cold. MIL 'saw' a tv show a while ago (not sure if it really existed or not) saying that when babies don't sleep at night it is the parents' fault. Made my day
I did all the things they say... you know, put them down awake so they learn to settle themselves, don't rock, sleeps in own bed etc... she goes down fine. BUt then what happens when she wakes up through the night? She doesn't have any milk in the night, I don't take her out the cot bla bla bla but she still can't sleep long periods of time.
Anyway, it's my fault so I shouldn't complain ha ha ha.

 

[saffydreamer]

God Mids ive heard it all, ur spoiling her, making a rod for ur own back, but tbh if i can snatch a hours sleep i will have her in bed with me, This weeks been a nightmare, ive been awake from 2am ish until 4.45am and then shes up at 6am, so in a zombie state ive been watching MTVR runs house, (i quite like it ) Ive moved into Avies room now on the sofa bed with her, i was so scared she will roll out of our bed, the only way atm she will sleep is holding onto my hair like rubbing it on her face (shes done this for ages) and has her arms around my neck, which is cute, but in this heat its unbearable,
Ive been thinking of taking her to a sleep clinic for advise but cant see any in my area, i cant do controlled crying! I just dunno, everyone i speak to minus you guys in the no sleep club have babies who go 7am-7pm
Roll on saturday a whole day in bed Mik can take over

 

[newmum]

Hey saffydreamer - our girls are nearly the same age. I was really discouraged this week about the sleeping thing. It's making me quite nervous when it gets to evening time and I dread it. But this week I noticed something and I am trying it out. WIll let you know once her cold is better if it has worked for us. xxx

 

[Marijana FC]

Hello ladies! I am back again . Things are medium here. It seems that every night is different for us: last night Danica slept through until 5.30 and tonight I've already been up twice Who knows what is going on! I know that I am currently having much more sleep than you girls but I share your frustration of doing everything and having very little award. I've been trying to explain to sleep clinic people: if Danica decides that she won't sleep, I can shhshhh as much as I want in her ear and pat her back until my arm falls out - she just won't sleep
They keep on telling me: be persistent, be stubborn, be patient...And all I want sometimes is to SCREAM

As to people always asking about sleeping: my neighbour's baby who is like 2 minutes old is already sleeping through and she complains that she is bored because baby sleeps all the time?! What do you say to day?!

 

[Marijana FC]

The lady I am talking to is a mother of 4 and has never done controlled crying. Apparently, she managed to help her babies sleep only using 'behavioural tools'. The thing is, I believe that they work but my problem is that I am soooo tired to be patient and positive and whatever. I know it is very short term thinking, but I wish there was a quick(er) fix....
According to my consultant, we have only just started implementing the plan. I have 3 more weeks to go before the final consultation...Oh dear...It feels like I am preparing for a test

BTW, good pointers from them: leaving radio on all night and sleeping with my T-shirt. Also, making her play more independently during the day. The other day, danica slept in the car seat - that has never happened before! And I am convinced it is because of the independent play and having the radio on....

 

[newmum]

The music idea is good. I play music in the background and I think it helps because when she wakes up the surroundings are the same as when she went to sleep and she tries to settle herself. BUT that is only if it isn't one of the times when she is going to wake up no matter what. Last night she slept better but I know it is only because i gave her calpol for teeth. The night before was a million times. Can only drug her once in blue moon

It's true Marijana, if they are gonna wake up you can ssssshhhhh all you like but it doesn't work.

I haven't done the controlled crying BUT when she has a cry she sleeps much better! SHe sometimes puts me i a corner where I have no choice but the let her cry. She fights me if I hold her, lays on the floor rubbing her eyes if I put her down, so I put her in her cot. SHe cries for a while, then I lay her down, repeat about 3 times and then she sleeps. Other times she doesn't need to. Every night is different.