Ladies doing IUI or IVF - 2016 (11 BFPs so far!)

[millielaura]

Thanks me too! There are a few different tablets to take and different times of day etc too lol hope he remembers them! xx

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[lillith112]

Oh really?
I don't know a great deal about it, is it not something they can cure at all??
Guess I'm stuck this way too! Hm...

Nope it's not cureable, I also read it on the locus medicus laboratory website where they do these tests. I think you can eradicate it from the lower reproductive tract, vagina, but when its sealed in the uterus apparently this is a continuous chronic infection that can never be fully irradiated. I thought these antibiotics were a cure but they aren't, they just supress it and reduce inflammation. Apparently if we catch pregnant we then have to take a different antibiotic in pregnancy to also supress it. I feel gutted, I don't even see the point in taking the antibiotics if we will still have it. So that means our partners will always have it too. �� xx

 

[lillith112]

Forgot to say, yes I was given both those antibiotics to take over a course of 21 days I think it was. I actually made myself feel physically sick at the thought of it all earlier. I'm still in shock that it can't be cured. xx

 

[xMillie]

Were you given enough prescription for your partner too? Me and hubby both have to take them for the month.
I feel so confused as to how I can have it when I've always tested negative for it in the past? Ughh.

 

[millielaura]

That is so confusing millie. Maybe there ate different types and sore are more rare? I had pelvic inflammatory disease and had to have antibiotics which was found cause I had loads of pain but I never had any positive sti tests ever and they said pid can be caused by them so I didn't get that lol. Not sure if it could of been one of the reasons why I had m/cs or not xx

 

[xMillie]

Were you given enough prescription for your partner too? Me and hubby both have to take them for the month.
I feel so confused as to how I can have it when I've always tested negative for it in the past? Ughh.

 

[lillith112]

Were you given enough prescription for your partner too? Me and hubby both have to take them for the month.
I feel so confused as to how I can have it when I've always tested negative for it in the past? Ughh.

Yes my partner has to take a coarse of them too. This is what I read on the Serum information I was sent, you test negative lower down in the reproductive tract, this is where the UK take swabs. The infection unfortunately can travel up into the uterus where it is in effect sealed off by the cervix so it goes undetected and becomes a chronic long term infection that can never be fully eradicated.

Same as you I tested negative for Chlamydia here at the gum clinic a few times. Penny also told me you don't even need to be sexually active to catch it, you can get it from swimming pools and toilet seats !. She said they have had teenagers with it before and they had never even had sex !. xx

 

[xMillie]

That's mad!!!

All these bloody infections..
I don't know if I still have it but I was told I had hpv when I had to have a colposcopy and lletz for cin3.
That came from a cheating partner years ago, he had hpv warts and I had no visable symptoms and tested negative for everything when I got checked out? It's the only place it could have come from though!!

Are the tests they do here just flipping useless at finding these things or what!?

 

[lillith112]

That's mad!!!

All these bloody infections..
I don't know if I still have it but I was told I had hpv when I had to have a colposcopy and lletz for cin3.
That came from a cheating partner years ago, he had hpv warts and I had no visable symptoms and tested negative for everything when I got checked out? It's the only place it could have come from though!!

Are the tests they do here just flipping useless at finding these things or what!?

I've been up most of the night thinking about it. Same as you around 5yrs ago I had hpv, colposcopy and Lletz for cin3. I've always been to the gum clinic after being with a new partner as paranoid about catching something and its always come back clear except in my mid 20's for Chlamydia. It's so scary to think I must of had this infection in my uterus for over 20yrs, no wonder I had a miscarriage and not caught pregnant again. Our UK nhs is crap at the best of times. xx

 

[lillith112]

Xmillie they will test for hpv virus on your next smear test, my smear after the Lletz said hpv negative. When I had the abnormal cells I had a letter saying I would have a smear 6 months after the Lletz, then every year for 10 years. Then apparently the nhs reviewed this and decided if you test negative you go back to 3 yearly smears, cost cutting in other words, terrible really. xx

 

[xMillie]

My 6month follow up was a year ago now and came back fine. Does that mean I don't have hpv anymore?

I feel so nervous having to wait so long for my next smear as it took years for them to catch the cin3 in the first place!!! In my early 20s I used to bleed after sex but because I wasn't 25 they wouldn't give me a smear. Soooo I had to wait 5 years!!!

Looking back I wish I'd just found somewhere to pay for a private smear.. but I guess I didn't think about it because I was told everything looked fine and I had no sti's. What if the cin3 did damage too??? It's so crap.

 

[lillith112]

My 6month follow up was a year ago now and came back fine. Does that mean I don't have hpv anymore?

I feel so nervous having to wait so long for my next smear as it took years for them to catch the cin3 in the first place!!! In my early 20s I used to bleed after sex but because I wasn't 25 they wouldn't give me a smear. Soooo I had to wait 5 years!!!

Looking back I wish I'd just found somewhere to pay for a private smear.. but I guess I didn't think about it because I was told everything looked fine and I had no sti's. What if the cin3 did damage too??? It's so crap.

Yes if your 6 month one was fine it means there was no hpv, mine had it written in the results letter, did yours not mention the hpv results ?. Maybe ring your surgery to double check. That's really bad that you had to wait 5 years. I did ask the nuse who did my smear if my cervix looked scarred from the Lletz, she said it looked normal, said the cervix grows back. It's same as our mammograms, you have to be 50 before they start, my mum had breast cancer so that's a worry. x

 

[xMillie]

the result just said no abnormal findings, I thought hpv was something that could just become dormant and wouldn't show up anyway? so feel like I'm always going to worry.

it's not good is it

 

[lillith112]

the result just said no abnormal findings, I thought hpv was something that could just become dormant and wouldn't show up anyway? so feel like I'm always going to worry.

it's not good is it

Oh, in my letter it said that, and that my hpv was negative. Yes you're right though as hpv can lay dormant then reappear at a later date. It is all a worry, I just feel totally gutted that this hidden Chlamydia can never be cured, still can't get my head around that. So, not that this will ever happen, but if we ever split up with our partners, does this mean that both of us will infect our next partner with hidden Chlamydia ?. xx

 

[xMillie]

Yes, it's a huge worry..

All we can do it's hope it works out for us all..xx

 

[Crazycatwoman]

Hey girls ��

Waiting for that phonecall feels like forever......

 

[xMillie]

Hey girls ��

Waiting for that phonecall feels like forever......

Hey

Which phonecall is this?
Xx

 

[Syd43]

Hey CCW, welcome to the thread. Hope you get the call soon.

Ladies, please try not to worry too much about the infection testing results. Easier said than done, I know. Remember there must be lots of people that have this and don't have issues, we're just unlucky... There's no reason to think it's done long term damage. I think (could be wrong) that the main issues are around implantation and I had no issues with implantation, didn't miscarry this time til over 8 weeks despite no development and needed to help it along a little.

With regards to testing and getting rid of it, I don't completely understand it all but I know if you've tested positive Serum do like you to do a smaller course of antibiotics when you conceive. However, because my OHs sperm results were so good they've said there's no need to treat him with the antibiotics again so even if we have to take the antibiotics again, doesn't mean our partners have to.

Lil, I had a hystoscopy in Athens, in that she could see there were still a few little patches of inflammation left over so she put me on some high dose antibiotics to get rid of them. They were also able to see that I had no scarring which I was worried about due to previous colposcopy and also a loop excision to remove cells from my cervix. I'm sure you can get them done privately in the UK. I'm going back in two weeks for an aquascan, Penny wants to do it after my miscarriage to see if another hystoscopy is needed. I'm not entirely sure how much they can see from an aquascan but I know it's a lot more detailed than the usual scan - maybe you could go for one of those and see if it shows anything that warrants a hysto?

I think the reason you have to take a big dose now, even though that doesn't completely clear it, is because it does help a huge amount and your OH has to take them to avoid passing it back and forth. The extra ones you take when you conceive are just an added precaution.

 

[phonixgirl]

Hey girls

How much does it cost to get tested at Serum? And for the consultation etc? And how does it work - would I need to have the tests done at my clinic?

 

[lillith112]

Hey CCW, welcome to the thread. Hope you get the call soon.

Ladies, please try not to worry too much about the infection testing results. Easier said than done, I know. Remember there must be lots of people that have this and don't have issues, we're just unlucky... There's no reason to think it's done long term damage. I think (could be wrong) that the main issues are around implantation and I had no issues with implantation, didn't miscarry this time til over 8 weeks despite no development and needed to help it along a little.

With regards to testing and getting rid of it, I don't completely understand it all but I know if you've tested positive Serum do like you to do a smaller course of antibiotics when you conceive. However, because my OHs sperm results were so good they've said there's no need to treat him with the antibiotics again so even if we have to take the antibiotics again, doesn't mean our partners have to.

Lil, I had a hystoscopy in Athens, in that she could see there were still a few little patches of inflammation left over so she put me on some high dose antibiotics to get rid of them. They were also able to see that I had no scarring which I was worried about due to previous colposcopy and also a loop excision to remove cells from my cervix. I'm sure you can get them done privately in the UK. I'm going back in two weeks for an aquascan, Penny wants to do it after my miscarriage to see if another hystoscopy is needed. I'm not entirely sure how much they can see from an aquascan but I know it's a lot more detailed than the usual scan - maybe you could go for one of those and see if it shows anything that warrants a hysto?

I think the reason you have to take a big dose now, even though that doesn't completely clear it, is because it does help a huge amount and your OH has to take them to avoid passing it back and forth. The extra ones you take when you conceive are just an added precaution.

Syd thanks for all the info, to be honest I am so tired of trying all these things to get pregnant, and at my age I have such a low chance of ever catching again, (its 1%), that I don't really see any point in paying out for aquascans and hystoscopy's. If I was set to have donor egg ivf I would definitely do it but I feel like I have finally accepted defeat that myself and my soulmate will never have a baby together. I will still take these antibiotics but I still feel that this is the end of the road for us ��. xx