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should convicted paedophiles be exterminated?

but why waste money castratingthem and feeding them in jail? :shock:
 
But surely being in prison for a long time then being set free only to find you have to be tagged and humiliated would mean they would have a bad life anyway. And you could wrongly inprison an inocent person? then put them on a register (wrongly) and then make it so any one can search for them and he will be targeted.

Its a lose lose situation really. I can see why people would be against it and in the heat of it all you think its fair which it is but also if it was an inocent person it would be twice as wrong. I am sadly not against it. If it was up to me they wouldnt have a nice life after being found guilty and they would probably kill themselves anyway :shock: . Luckily its not up to me.
 
WITH THE dna TESTING NOWADAYS THERE IS HARDLY A SHADOW OF A doubt if someones guilt.
 
DNA testing doesn't tell you if 5 years ago someone abused a child. It doesn't tell you who held a camera whilst a child was abused. DNA is virtually useless unless a crime is reported within hours or days. Unfortunately child abuse isn't. The accusations can come years later and like GGG (I think it was - apologies if not) said - there are false accusations of rape and abuse made. As I said in my original post on this thread, one innocent person killed by mistake is too much.

Also what about child murderers? If you abuse then kill a child, there's no witness, so if you're abusing and going to get the death sentence anyway - you may as well kill them and prevent them ever giving evidence. The greatest punishment has to be for murder, otherwise, they can murder with no risk of extra punishment - if you get me
 
Crikey Budge, you know how to pick the immotive issues!

Personally, I don't agree with the death penalty. And before you all jump on me, just because I don't support the death penalty doesn't mean I support the criminals!

I too have violent thoughts when I think if these sickos and what they do to children, I just don't think two wrongs can ever make a right.


I can fully understand the sentiments, but how many of us here could support a mechanism which 'exterminates' criminals? There's just too much room for error.
 
If they were to bring back the death penalty, where would they stop?
Pedophilia? Murder? Manslaughter? Rape? Mugging? etc

Yeah pedophilia does wreck peoples lifes, but they CAN get over it (and before anyone says how can i say that n that ive never been thru it - yes.. i have!) But the thing is people who rape, murder, burgle a house, mug someone, attack them, even threaten, or harrasing someone can wreck their lifes.

Like i said before i dont think what they do is right, but i dont think they should be killed. As a few people have said 2 wrongs dont make a right.

People CAN be helped when they offend and i was told that they aint allowed out till a psyhologist says that they arent likely to re-offend. U cant just lock them up and throw away the key, they need to get back out into the real world and prove to people like u lot who think so negitivly that they CAN come out and live a life where the wont re-offend!

Plus if they did kill someone for it and it came back that they wernt the person who done it, or the person who said it was found to be lyin then they would of just killed an innocent person for absolutly no reason.. and thats not right at all!!
 
I honestly believe the death penalty has no place in a civilised society, its an antiquated and ineffective punishment, its been proven that the threat of the death penalty is not a deterrent to violent crime.

Also never under estimate the power of survivor guilt. I know that i would have personally took on the blame for the death of my abuser if he had been "exterminated". The reason i know that was because i found 101 reasons to blame myself for the abuse happening, i honestly believe I would not have been able to cope with his death on my conscious too. I am almost 26 years old, its been 12 years since my uncle last touched me and it took a whole lot of hard work to get where i am today, I dont think i would be here if id even more to deal with.
 
Melanie said:
Also never under estimate the power of survivor guilt. I know that i would have personally took on the blame for the death of my abuser if he had been "exterminated".


MY GOD I HAD NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT ONE :shock:
THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS FORUM. I LOVE HEARING OTHERS POINTS OF VIEWS AND REASONS ETC.

YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME SOMETHING ON THIS ONE MEL. THANKYOU.
 
Budge you certainly how to write emotive topics :D

I don't know where I stand on this - when I am impartial and I am looking at it rationallly I think that they shouldn't be killed

- BUT - IF ANYONE LAID ONE FINGER ON ONE OF MY CHILDREN I WOULD HAPPILY TAKE A GUN AND KILL THEM MYSELF IF I WAS GIVEN THE CHANCE!!!

Enough said from me!
 
Barmi_Brummeh said:
People CAN be helped when they offend and i was told that they aint allowed out till a psyhologist says that they arent likely to re-offend. U cant just lock them up and throw away the key, they need to get back out into the real world and prove to people like u lot who think so negitivly that they CAN come out and live a life where the wont re-offend!

Why should someone who has sexualy abused a child get a second chance?

People who mug, have a fight, or murder yes under the right circumstances of the crime should get a 2nd chance.

I just dont understand why anyone would think they could live in the real world, lol anyway whats real, what I see is, war and a dodgy government and people who think a paedo can be rehabilitated :| I just dont get it.

If someone harmed my child in anyway shape or form I would want to kill them with my bare hands :x

I also want my child to be protected against these sick monsters, they do not deserve to have a life of happyness when they destroy so many lives.

I am against the ones who rape children live on camera, who take pictures and put them on the net, who abuse a3 yr old boy in front of 100s of paedophiles who watch on the net. :x :x

That as far as im concerned in inhumain! and anyone who thinks they deserve a second chance really needs to have a proper good look at whats really going on with these sick ba*tards!


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Freya said:
Budge you certainly how to write emotive topics :D

I don't know where I stand on this - when I am impartial and I am looking at it rationallly I think that they shouldn't be killed

- BUT - IF ANYONE LAID ONE FINGER ON ONE OF MY CHILDREN I WOULD HAPPILY TAKE A GUN AND KILL THEM MYSELF IF I WAS GIVEN THE CHANCE!!!

Enough said from me!

thats exactly how i feel. i know i would kill anyone who touched my kids. That if my husband didn't get here before.
 
Tasha20 said:
Barmi_Brummeh said:
People CAN be helped when they offend and i was told that they aint allowed out till a psyhologist says that they arent likely to re-offend. U cant just lock them up and throw away the key, they need to get back out into the real world and prove to people like u lot who think so negitivly that they CAN come out and live a life where the wont re-offend!

Why should someone who has sexualy abused a child get a second chance?

People who mug, have a fight, or murder yes under the right circumstances of the crime should get a 2nd chance.

I just dont understand why anyone would think they could live in the real world, lol anyway whats real, what I see is, war and a dodgy government and people who think a paedo can be rehabilitated :| I just dont get it.

If someone harmed my child in anyway shape or form I would want to kill them with my bare hands :x

I also want my child to be protected against these sick monsters, they do not deserve to have a life of happyness when they destroy so many lives.

I am against the ones who rape children live on camera, who take pictures and put them on the net, who abuse a3 yr old boy in front of 100s of paedophiles who watch on the net. :x :x

That as far as im concerned in inhumain! and anyone who thinks they deserve a second chance really needs to have a proper good look at whats really going on with these sick ba*tards!


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:x :x :x :x :x :x i know what you mean :x :x :x :x :x :x

lock em up and throw away the key.
 
Barmi_Brummeh said:
If they were to bring back the death penalty, where would they stop?
Pedophilia? Murder? Manslaughter? Rape? Mugging? etc

Yeah pedophilia does wreck peoples lifes, but they CAN get over it (and before anyone says how can i say that n that ive never been thru it - yes.. i have!) But the thing is people who rape, murder, burgle a house, mug someone, attack them, even threaten, or harrasing someone can wreck their lifes.

Like i said before i dont think what they do is right, but i dont think they should be killed. As a few people have said 2 wrongs dont make a right.

People CAN be helped when they offend and i was told that they aint allowed out till a psyhologist says that they arent likely to re-offend. U cant just lock them up and throw away the key, they need to get back out into the real world and prove to people like u lot who think so negitivly that they CAN come out and live a life where the wont re-offend!

Plus if they did kill someone for it and it came back that they wernt the person who done it, or the person who said it was found to be lyin then they would of just killed an innocent person for absolutly no reason.. and thats not right at all!!

wait till you have given birth to your baby and see if you feel the same :hug:
your whole life changes when you have had a baby and your thoughts about things do to.
 
all in all i think the voting speaks for itself.
 
budge said:
Barmi_Brummeh said:
If they were to bring back the death penalty, where would they stop?
Pedophilia? Murder? Manslaughter? Rape? Mugging? etc

Yeah pedophilia does wreck peoples lifes, but they CAN get over it (and before anyone says how can i say that n that ive never been thru it - yes.. i have!) But the thing is people who rape, murder, burgle a house, mug someone, attack them, even threaten, or harrasing someone can wreck their lifes.

Like i said before i dont think what they do is right, but i dont think they should be killed. As a few people have said 2 wrongs dont make a right.

People CAN be helped when they offend and i was told that they aint allowed out till a psyhologist says that they arent likely to re-offend. U cant just lock them up and throw away the key, they need to get back out into the real world and prove to people like u lot who think so negitivly that they CAN come out and live a life where the wont re-offend!

Plus if they did kill someone for it and it came back that they wernt the person who done it, or the person who said it was found to be lyin then they would of just killed an innocent person for absolutly no reason.. and thats not right at all!!

wait till you have given birth to your baby and see if you feel the same :hug:
your whole life changes when you have had a baby and your thoughts about things do to.

I have 2 daughters and my views have never changed!

If my daughters (god forbid) were abused, which at 14 and 11 they never have been so I think they are on the home run, but of they had been, then I would be angry, I would be devastated, I would want and need the person to be punished in a fitting manner - but not death.

Maybe some of us have the ability to seperate reason and logic from emotion, and some dont.
 
I do have that ability GGG but probably not when it comes to my own kids - see my post. I know rationally that i don't think it is the right thing to do for a variety of reasons. BUT when I think someone is excluding my child from their play I get angry and want to deal with it. So I truly believe if someone harmed my children I unfortunately would not be able to seperate reason and logic for emotion as how can you??? Surely you would be emotionally involved????
 
why cant we just live in a safe world in the first place???? :( :(
 
i have never imagined how i would feel if some one thouched my kids because its something im way to scared off.

but the chances of it happening are slim i am very very carefull, i know im nasty but my children will never ever stay at friends houses.
i trust my imediate family as i have lived with them and know we are all normal, but you cannot trust every one these days.

the thought of a man taking away my childs innocence is sickening!
 
dionne said:
i have never imagined how i would feel if some one thouched my kids because its something im way to scared off.

but the chances of it happening are slim i am very very carefull, i know im nasty but my children will never ever stay at friends houses.
i trust my imediate family as i have lived with them and know we are all normal, but you cannot trust every one these days.

the thought of a man taking away my childs innocence is sickening!

That's exactly what i am like, i only trust my immediate family. Maybe i am just possesive over him but i can't help it! I torture myself over the thought of these sick things happening to him.

I dread the day if ever he wants to sleep over at his school friends house or something. i know we have to let go at some point but i don't like to think about it :(
 

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