Shell's TTC Diary - *IVF/ICSI* - BFP!!!!
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No, it wasn't painful or uncomfortable. I actually enjoyed it and i'm useless with needles. I didn't even feel them go in. As soon as he put the 1st 2 in i felt so relaxed and a bit like i had been drinking. I just wanted to go to sleep. There was one that hurt on my lower back, near my kidney area i think. I squealed a bit when he did that one!! I would definately recommend it, even if just to relax.
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sounds like you're in a really good frame of mind again. Really hope the acupuncture works for you, xxxx
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Glad the accu seems to be going well
I had acupuncture again yesterday and after telling you all how painless it was.......it really hurt!! 
He did some really painful ones, but if it does good then i dont care how much pain i have to endure. I have a weak pulse and low energy. which is so true. I tend to feel tired all day. He also said i have digestion issues. Which is also very true. I used to suffer from IBS (well thats what the doctor says, but i think they use that when they dont kow what else it is) and i haven't eaten wheat for over 10 years because of it. I still sometimes have symptoms of it but nothing like it was while i was at uni. I dont know how he can tell all this from my puse and tongue!
DH also had a lot of painful needles. Which was quite funny to watch!
He said he feels very positive about us and said to be prepared to find out we dont need IVF. I think thats a bit over the top, i dont think i really believe that he can work miracles! 
Also i can stop worrying that he is trying to start AF. He now knows what CD i'm on so that he can try to get me ovulating. I told him i chart my temps as that the only way i have ever known if i've ov'd, and he wants me to bring those in next time. I thought that was quite good. He said they will be useful to help him work out what gong wrong with my body. I am now on Ov watch as you never know he may have worked his magic already. I started my OPK'S on Monday, which will probably be a waste of time as i've never had a positive one. Yesterday i had a faint line. I know that it is a negative but i got excited as i've never even got a line on one before, so a faint line felt like an achievement!
What opk's does everyone use? I have some internet cheapies and some clearblue diditals just in case i have an almost positive on the others. I'm useless at dechipering lines! Does anyone have any luck with the internet strip ones?
Michelle x
He did some really painful ones, but if it does good then i dont care how much pain i have to endure. I have a weak pulse and low energy. which is so true. I tend to feel tired all day. He also said i have digestion issues. Which is also very true. I used to suffer from IBS (well thats what the doctor says, but i think they use that when they dont kow what else it is) and i haven't eaten wheat for over 10 years because of it. I still sometimes have symptoms of it but nothing like it was while i was at uni. I dont know how he can tell all this from my puse and tongue!DH also had a lot of painful needles. Which was quite funny to watch!
He said he feels very positive about us and said to be prepared to find out we dont need IVF. I think thats a bit over the top, i dont think i really believe that he can work miracles! Also i can stop worrying that he is trying to start AF. He now knows what CD i'm on so that he can try to get me ovulating. I told him i chart my temps as that the only way i have ever known if i've ov'd, and he wants me to bring those in next time. I thought that was quite good. He said they will be useful to help him work out what gong wrong with my body. I am now on Ov watch as you never know he may have worked his magic already. I started my OPK'S on Monday, which will probably be a waste of time as i've never had a positive one. Yesterday i had a faint line. I know that it is a negative but i got excited as i've never even got a line on one before, so a faint line felt like an achievement!
What opk's does everyone use? I have some internet cheapies and some clearblue diditals just in case i have an almost positive on the others. I'm useless at dechipering lines! Does anyone have any luck with the internet strip ones?
Michelle x
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My lines have never been as dark as the control line (i use cheapys) but I just take my strongest line as my + and my temps seem to agree with that. I start getting faint lines a couple of days fo the day before my +. I know some peoples surge only last about 10hrs so you can miss the peak of it by only testing once a day - as soon as I get a faint line I test at least 2 times a day. You just have to restrict your liquid intake a bit (altho no need to go mad and not drink anything) and make sure you dont have a wee for about 3hrs before you do one.
Good Luck as maybe the accu man has worked some magic - you could be ov very soon
FX for you!
Good Luck as maybe the accu man has worked some magic - you could be ov very soon
FX for you!chellieboo
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I used to use ebay cheapies and clearblue digital to confirm what i thought was a positive on the cheapies (plus I really liked the smiley face!)
Hope the accupuncture has done some good, sounds like the bloke knows what he's talking about
Hope the accupuncture has done some good, sounds like the bloke knows what he's talking about
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Hi Shell, how are you?
Loola just posted this and I thought Id draw your attention to it - seems accu really does work for some people!
http://pregnancyforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68056
Loola just posted this and I thought Id draw your attention to it - seems accu really does work for some people!
http://pregnancyforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68056
Hi Shell,
I caught up with your thread this morning, and have posted pics of OPKs here - http://www.pregnancyforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 072#858072 - in case it helps you!
You could consider a Clear Blue Easy Fertility Monitor too - it detects oestrogen as well as LH - but it can't be used with certain drugs and isn't recommended for cycles >42 days, so read the instructions carefully before buying, if you're interested.
I've read good things about acupuncture, so will be watching your thread with interest! I'm having acupressure on Thursday (I'm a guinea-pig for a therapist (reflexology, massage, Bowen) who's on an acupressure course at the moment, so we'll have to swap notes.
Good luck...
I caught up with your thread this morning, and have posted pics of OPKs here - http://www.pregnancyforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 072#858072 - in case it helps you!
You could consider a Clear Blue Easy Fertility Monitor too - it detects oestrogen as well as LH - but it can't be used with certain drugs and isn't recommended for cycles >42 days, so read the instructions carefully before buying, if you're interested.
I've read good things about acupuncture, so will be watching your thread with interest! I'm having acupressure on Thursday (I'm a guinea-pig for a therapist (reflexology, massage, Bowen) who's on an acupressure course at the moment, so we'll have to swap notes.
Good luck...
Choklatemunky - Thank you for thinking of me. I have read so many stories like that and it really does give me hope that acupuncture works. really that i can be one of those miracle stories one day!!
Kitty - Thank you for posting. My OPK's have been driving me mad!!
I was going to have a look on FF to see if there were opk pics to look at, but you have saved me doing that. It was really interesting to see, and most people would only bother testing once a day. It would be great to hear how your accupressure goes. Is it like acupuncture but they use their hands instead of needles? I did have a look at the clearblue monitor, but now that you have said about needing cycles of 42 days or less i think it wont be suitable. I think i will just have to perservere with the opks for now, unless the acupuncture gets my cycles shorter and regular.
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I am now on CD19 and no sign of ovulation so far, which is not unusual but i think i was hoping for some kind of drastic change ater acu. I have been testing twice a day, around 2pm and 9/10pm. I was getting faint lines, some seemed darker, now they have disapeered completely. 
The darkest line i got was on the evening of CD13 and 2 days after this i had a temp dip followed by a slight rise the next day, making me think i had ovulated. But i had no EWCM at all and FF hasn't given me any lines so i dont think i have. I dont mind as DH has been working in London last week and he went to holland today til thursday. There's not much point ovulating while i'm home alone!!! 
My temperatures are a lot higher in general at the moment i think, my acupuncturist thinks i feel the cold too much so maybe he's making me warmer! I'm also getting lots of cramps and twinges, so i'm hoping those are good signs that something is going on in my usually dormant body! When i was stimming during IVF i had lots of pains where my ovaries are, and i have been getting those pains for over a week now. I assumed these were ovulation pains but i think they've been going on for a bit long now. Maybe an egg is struggling to get out!
DH has been religiously taking his vitamins and proxeed, so i'm very pleased with him at the moment! We haven't got round to trying out the preseed yet, i was saving it til i thought ovulation was a bit closer to happening. I have been to Holland & Barratt today and bought myself some extra vits.......Q10, i took this while i was stimming as its meant to help egg quality so i thought it cant hurt to take while ttc naturally.......Evening primose oil, to increase CM as i have none at the mo!.........And something called Inositol, part of the B vits which i have read can help encourage ovulation and return absent periods in women with irregular periods or pcos. Now that i've wrote this down i realise i seem crazy trying all this stuff, but at the moment i'm willing to do anything!
I have acupuncture again on saturday, so i will back to update after that.
Michelle x
that i can be one of those miracle stories one day!!Kitty - Thank you for posting. My OPK's have been driving me mad!!
I was going to have a look on FF to see if there were opk pics to look at, but you have saved me doing that. It was really interesting to see, and most people would only bother testing once a day. It would be great to hear how your accupressure goes. Is it like acupuncture but they use their hands instead of needles? I did have a look at the clearblue monitor, but now that you have said about needing cycles of 42 days or less i think it wont be suitable. I think i will just have to perservere with the opks for now, unless the acupuncture gets my cycles shorter and regular.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am now on CD19 and no sign of ovulation so far, which is not unusual but i think i was hoping for some kind of drastic change ater acu.
I have been testing twice a day, around 2pm and 9/10pm. I was getting faint lines, some seemed darker, now they have disapeered completely. The darkest line i got was on the evening of CD13 and 2 days after this i had a temp dip followed by a slight rise the next day, making me think i had ovulated. But i had no EWCM at all and FF hasn't given me any lines so i dont think i have. I dont mind as DH has been working in London last week and he went to holland today til thursday. There's not much point ovulating while i'm home alone!!! My temperatures are a lot higher in general at the moment i think, my acupuncturist thinks i feel the cold too much so maybe he's making me warmer! I'm also getting lots of cramps and twinges, so i'm hoping those are good signs that something is going on in my usually dormant body! When i was stimming during IVF i had lots of pains where my ovaries are, and i have been getting those pains for over a week now. I assumed these were ovulation pains but i think they've been going on for a bit long now. Maybe an egg is struggling to get out!
DH has been religiously taking his vitamins and proxeed, so i'm very pleased with him at the moment! We haven't got round to trying out the preseed yet, i was saving it til i thought ovulation was a bit closer to happening. I have been to Holland & Barratt today and bought myself some extra vits.......Q10, i took this while i was stimming as its meant to help egg quality so i thought it cant hurt to take while ttc naturally.......Evening primose oil, to increase CM as i have none at the mo!.........And something called Inositol, part of the B vits which i have read can help encourage ovulation and return absent periods in women with irregular periods or pcos. Now that i've wrote this down i realise i seem crazy trying all this stuff, but at the moment i'm willing to do anything!
I have acupuncture again on saturday, so i will back to update after that.
Michelle x
Not really any news from me. Still ages until our appointment at the hospital for our NHS cycle. 
Still having acupuncture but as yet no ovulation. I've still only had 3 sessions though so i guess i need to be patient. Have started keeping my OPK's like kitty did so i can compare any lines i may get. I keep getting faint lines and then the next day they are gone. I'm testing twice a day, sometime 3 times just to be sure i dont miss anything!
Michelle x
Still having acupuncture but as yet no ovulation. I've still only had 3 sessions though so i guess i need to be patient. Have started keeping my OPK's like kitty did so i can compare any lines i may get. I keep getting faint lines and then the next day they are gone. I'm testing twice a day, sometime 3 times just to be sure i dont miss anything!Michelle x
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I hope you get a strong line on an OPK soon Shell
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Hey honey
haven't seen you around for a bit, i hope things are OK?
Have you got the dates for your NHS go yet?
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haven't seen you around for a bit, i hope things are OK?
Have you got the dates for your NHS go yet?
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Hi
Sorry i haven't posted for ages.
Still nothing exciting happening on the TTC front. Still going to acupuncture, but still no ovulation. It feels like its taking ages til our appointment. Its on the 11th so just under 2 weeks to go now. To be honest i'm dreading starting again. The 2nd time i couldn't wait, this time i feel sick. I know its got to be done though.
More bad news....do i ever have anything else! My youngest cat, Poppy, was hit by a car last tuesday. 
Our neighbour found her by the kerb dead. She was only 1 at the beginning of march, and she was my little baby. I probably get too attached to my pets, as i end up treating them like they're human. So the last week has been awful. I kept bursting into tears everytime i thought about her, and even writing this is hard. We have decided to get another kitten. I was worried that it may seem a bit insensitive to want another so soon, but a friend said that i should get another and let the love i had for pops live on through another cat. I think it will help us get over her, at the moment all i think about is how much i miss her so it will take my mind off that. Plus our other cat, despite them always fighting, seems to be missing her too. Since the night she died, she keeps searching the house for her, looking in all the places she used to hide. The only problem is finding a kitten. There doesn;'t seem to be many local to us and those that are, are sold by the time we call. So....if anyone know of any kittens, please, please let me know.
Michelle
Sorry i haven't posted for ages.
Still nothing exciting happening on the TTC front. Still going to acupuncture, but still no ovulation. It feels like its taking ages til our appointment. Its on the 11th so just under 2 weeks to go now. To be honest i'm dreading starting again. The 2nd time i couldn't wait, this time i feel sick. I know its got to be done though.
More bad news....do i ever have anything else!
My youngest cat, Poppy, was hit by a car last tuesday. Our neighbour found her by the kerb dead. She was only 1 at the beginning of march, and she was my little baby. I probably get too attached to my pets, as i end up treating them like they're human. So the last week has been awful. I kept bursting into tears everytime i thought about her, and even writing this is hard. We have decided to get another kitten. I was worried that it may seem a bit insensitive to want another so soon, but a friend said that i should get another and let the love i had for pops live on through another cat. I think it will help us get over her, at the moment all i think about is how much i miss her so it will take my mind off that. Plus our other cat, despite them always fighting, seems to be missing her too. Since the night she died, she keeps searching the house for her, looking in all the places she used to hide. The only problem is finding a kitten. There doesn;'t seem to be many local to us and those that are, are sold by the time we call. So....if anyone know of any kittens, please, please let me know.Michelle
oh michelle
i'm so sorry about poppy i am so attached to my cats too, it must be such an awful feeling losing one
i really hope you find another little one to share your love with soon. have you tried a local rescue centre? which area are you from and i can have a look for you i'll pm you.
sarah xxx
i'm so sorry about poppy
i am so attached to my cats too, it must be such an awful feeling losing one i really hope you find another little one to share your love with soon. have you tried a local rescue centre? which area are you from and i can have a look for you
i'll pm you.sarah xxx
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Awww, Shell I know exactly how you feel about losing poppy, my dog was run over a few years ago and it hurt like hell.
hope the 11th comes round quickly for you. don't forget 3rd time lucky
hope the 11th comes round quickly for you. don't forget 3rd time lucky
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Feeling disappointed about yesterdays appointment. There are so many things that annoyed me, i thought it would be easier to do a list!!
1. They hadn't even read our notes. She knew nothing about us or our previous cycles. She asked if i have regular cycles!!! Errrr.....no! It felt like we were starting back at square one again. That was frustrating.
2. I dont feel comfortable that you dont have an initial appointment with a consultant to discuss your treatment.
3. She said i could start any day in my cycle and that i should get a period a couple of weeks in to treatment. I explained that this didn't happen before and to avoid me having to DR for 4 weeks again the other clinic induced AF and started me on day 2. The nurses said they dont usually use norethisterone and they dont do day 2 starts. I felt like saying, well most places dont do day 60+ starts but that's what you're suggesting! So it seems i will be DR for ages and then end up having norethisterone anyway.
4. EC's are only done Mon, Wed & Fri. So you have to fit into those days. If not, tough. From past experience my treatment doesn't follow the usual timeline which i tried to explain but again
5. EC's are done in a room where everyone is just separated by curtains by the sound of it. And you are left there to recover. I wasn't expecting my own room, but as she was explaining it i felt really uncomfortable about it. I was in quite a bit of pain after my EC's, i dont think i fancy being with loads of other women and their OH's. Maybe i've just been spoilt at my other clinic though. If this was my 1st go i wouldn't know any different.
6. They do day 2 transfers, which i wasn't keen on. I thought it was best to wait as late as possible. Also ET is only done Mon-Fri.
7. We cant have Assisted Hatching (this is what my other clinic suggested trying next time) We knew it wouldn't be included in the funding, so said we were willing to pay. She didn't understand why we wanted it but said she would make a note for the lab that if we needed it we were willing to pay. While we were signing forms, she went to speak to the embryologist who told her that we could only have what is funded and we couldn't pay for extra's. So if we want AH we have to pay for the whole cycle!
I dont know if i'm just being petty and moaning too much?!! I keep thinking i should just put up with it as its free. But i hated it there. I really wish we wasn't going there, but if i dont do it its like £3000 down the drain. I dont know if i'm just being oversensitive and unwilling to have a change. I really dont know whether to just go back to the priory. If that doesn't work, then try somewhere else. But will i regret not having this one as well? DH says he's happy to forfeit this go and just pay. But its such a lot of money to just turn down.
If we do go with them, we can start as soon as my drugs arrive. Which will be the 25th April at the latest, so only 2 weeks away!
Any opinions, greatly appreciated!!
Michelle x
Feeling disappointed about yesterdays appointment. There are so many things that annoyed me, i thought it would be easier to do a list!!
1. They hadn't even read our notes. She knew nothing about us or our previous cycles. She asked if i have regular cycles!!! Errrr.....no! It felt like we were starting back at square one again. That was frustrating.
2. I dont feel comfortable that you dont have an initial appointment with a consultant to discuss your treatment.
3. She said i could start any day in my cycle and that i should get a period a couple of weeks in to treatment. I explained that this didn't happen before and to avoid me having to DR for 4 weeks again the other clinic induced AF and started me on day 2. The nurses said they dont usually use norethisterone and they dont do day 2 starts. I felt like saying, well most places dont do day 60+ starts but that's what you're suggesting! So it seems i will be DR for ages and then end up having norethisterone anyway.
4. EC's are only done Mon, Wed & Fri. So you have to fit into those days. If not, tough. From past experience my treatment doesn't follow the usual timeline which i tried to explain but again
5. EC's are done in a room where everyone is just separated by curtains by the sound of it. And you are left there to recover. I wasn't expecting my own room, but as she was explaining it i felt really uncomfortable about it. I was in quite a bit of pain after my EC's, i dont think i fancy being with loads of other women and their OH's. Maybe i've just been spoilt at my other clinic though. If this was my 1st go i wouldn't know any different.
6. They do day 2 transfers, which i wasn't keen on. I thought it was best to wait as late as possible. Also ET is only done Mon-Fri.
7. We cant have Assisted Hatching (this is what my other clinic suggested trying next time) We knew it wouldn't be included in the funding, so said we were willing to pay. She didn't understand why we wanted it but said she would make a note for the lab that if we needed it we were willing to pay. While we were signing forms, she went to speak to the embryologist who told her that we could only have what is funded and we couldn't pay for extra's. So if we want AH we have to pay for the whole cycle!
I dont know if i'm just being petty and moaning too much?!! I keep thinking i should just put up with it as its free. But i hated it there. I really wish we wasn't going there, but if i dont do it its like £3000 down the drain. I dont know if i'm just being oversensitive and unwilling to have a change. I really dont know whether to just go back to the priory. If that doesn't work, then try somewhere else. But will i regret not having this one as well? DH says he's happy to forfeit this go and just pay. But its such a lot of money to just turn down.
If we do go with them, we can start as soon as my drugs arrive. Which will be the 25th April at the latest, so only 2 weeks away!
Any opinions, greatly appreciated!!
Michelle x
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Hey honey, sounds like a confusing decision to make. I'm sure they would have to fit things in around you if there were problems getting your body to do things to schedule, they can't exactly delay EC or ET to fit in with them.
I think day 2 transfers can be quite common, after all the best environment for the embies is back in your body, and by this stage they should have some idea if they are dividing well.
I don't think the curtains thing is too bad for post EC recovery, after all this is the case if you go into hospital for most procedures, and you'll probably find you are too busy concentrating on whats going on with you to worry about everyone else....but I would expect a seperate room for the actual procedure.
Its riduculous that you can't pay for extras like assisted hatching and blasttocyst culture if you wanted it, if they have the facilities to do it.....if they don't then obviously there is no option.
Not sure about the starting any day in your cycle either...thought it was generally either start DR on CD21 or CD2.....but I'm not expert obviously!! lol
If you are really not happy and can afford to pay at the priory again then do it, I would be reluctant to give up my free go however just cos of the massive costs involved, but you can only do what you are happy with....at the end of the day you don't want to regret whatever decision you make.
Goodluck honey
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I think day 2 transfers can be quite common, after all the best environment for the embies is back in your body, and by this stage they should have some idea if they are dividing well.
I don't think the curtains thing is too bad for post EC recovery, after all this is the case if you go into hospital for most procedures, and you'll probably find you are too busy concentrating on whats going on with you to worry about everyone else....but I would expect a seperate room for the actual procedure.
Its riduculous that you can't pay for extras like assisted hatching and blasttocyst culture if you wanted it, if they have the facilities to do it.....if they don't then obviously there is no option.
Not sure about the starting any day in your cycle either...thought it was generally either start DR on CD21 or CD2.....but I'm not expert obviously!! lol
If you are really not happy and can afford to pay at the priory again then do it, I would be reluctant to give up my free go however just cos of the massive costs involved, but you can only do what you are happy with....at the end of the day you don't want to regret whatever decision you make.
Goodluck honey
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