Madeleine McCann
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I just realised this is a mighty hormonal place for such serious issues isn't it! Whether it be hormones or severe sleep deprivation, I think I fall into the latter though 
I think that the police are grasping at whatever they can.
I still don't understand how they could hide & move a body in this time span & to hide it so well that hotel staff & locald who knew the area couldn't find it?
I think it's too bizzare!
I think that the police are grasping at whatever they can.
I still don't understand how they could hide & move a body in this time span & to hide it so well that hotel staff & locald who knew the area couldn't find it?
I think it's too bizzare!
Urchin said:budge said:
Budge you should have a go at trying to answer some of the questions I asked on the previous page. I can't quite believe its them for a few reasons.
i don't either TBH. But one has to look at the larger picture. There must be some good reason the portugese police think they are guilty.....
Ill take a look at the questions urch
Does any one know... When they saw the suspicious guy walking away with a child in PJ's did they stop him or call the police? Some one here made a good point, they said if you saw some one like that youd call the police but if you could tell it was a child in PJ's surely you could tell its your child? Or was that not the macanns that saw that? 
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1- half an hour is the supposed time frame that they had to hide the body. If they hid it. There were reports of a man seen carrying a child (could have been a dead child).
2- The McCanns will have been informed of where the police were going to search and when. As Doctors they would know that it takes around 40 days in high heat to completely disintegrate a body. If 25 days after Madeliene died they found out that her burial spot was going to be searched they may want to move her- their DNA would still be evident on her body- possible the only evidence to identify her.
I don't think she was mudered but I do think that she died in an accident that somehow the parents were involved in. The 'scent of death' has apparantly been sniffer dogged on Kate Mccann's clothes- the press say that this could be related to her job.... but how many doctors take work clothes on holiday to portugal in hot weather with them? Her clothes would likely have been new or at least not worn to identify dead bodies.
Something strange going on. I don't want to believe they did it but I can't help wondering.
2- The McCanns will have been informed of where the police were going to search and when. As Doctors they would know that it takes around 40 days in high heat to completely disintegrate a body. If 25 days after Madeliene died they found out that her burial spot was going to be searched they may want to move her- their DNA would still be evident on her body- possible the only evidence to identify her.
I don't think she was mudered but I do think that she died in an accident that somehow the parents were involved in. The 'scent of death' has apparantly been sniffer dogged on Kate Mccann's clothes- the press say that this could be related to her job.... but how many doctors take work clothes on holiday to portugal in hot weather with them? Her clothes would likely have been new or at least not worn to identify dead bodies.
Something strange going on. I don't want to believe they did it but I can't help wondering.
jenna said:Does any one know... When they saw the suspicious guy walking away with a child in PJ's did they stop him or call the police? Some one here made a good point, they said if you saw some one like that youd call the police but if you could tell it was a child in PJ's surely you could tell its your child? Or was that not the macanns that saw that?
I'm not sure it's that odd though to see a child in pj's in a holiday resort.
I know that when we've been abroad & stayed on the hotel premises, Beth & Tom have sometimes had their pj's on when it got later so that we could push or carry them back to bed
Jade_Number1 said:
In regard tp point 2,yes,maybe they could have had the knowledge to move a body after this time,but wouldn't they have been taking a hell of a chance on the actual night? If they moved her body,they could never have known at that point where would be searched & when?
As for clothes, GP's go out to dead bodies in their home sometimes, why wouldn't she have wanted to take at-shirt on holiday that she wore regularly? I'm sure they don't go home & decide not to wear these clothes again because they have seen adead body that day.
My sil is a doc & she signs off dead bodies, she doesn't wear specail clothes for that purpose...
kirlykird said:lillou said:
I never suggested that 'you' were criticising anyone on a personal level? I know that everyone is talking about the Mccanns & I'm sorry if you think that I am accusing you of criticising me?
I am giving a generalisation of my feelings across the whole of this thread & the finger is pointed at no one, I am sad that you feel that it is.
I'm also sorry but I also fail to see how your opinion isn't valued & I'm tired of reading threads where people have to leave because someone has a difference of opinion,this is a public forum where people do & will have difference of opinions. I don't expect everyone to agree with me
No offence made to you & I'm sorry that you take it that way
im not leaving the forum, just this thread so that shouldnt make you "tired" of reading the posts
i respect your opinion totally, i kinda just want it over for the poor girls sake!
Jade_Number1 said:
Did anybody read my post from earlier????
Look at what EVIDENCE there is.
If you don't believe me, read the SERIOUS news items......
here's an example of, OBJECTIVE journalism:
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/s ... ing/784652
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its a consipiracy theory, they can make anyone look guilty if they want to.
Sammystar I did 
Lillou....I've already pm'd you,I'm tired of everything today
probably comes from 3 ill kids & 2 hours sleep so for today tired is THE word
Sammystar... I think that is a good point in the link, as the BBC quote I posted earlier suggests that the DNA doesn't point to solid evidence
Lillou....I've already pm'd you,I'm tired of everything today
probably comes from 3 ill kids & 2 hours sleep so for today tired is THE word Sammystar... I think that is a good point in the link, as the BBC quote I posted earlier suggests that the DNA doesn't point to solid evidence
kirlykird said:Sammystar I did
Lillou....I've already pm'd you,I'm tired of everything today
Sammystar... I think that is a good point in the link, as the BBC quote I posted earlier suggests that the DNA doesn't point to solid evidence
I know how you feel. I had about the same amount of sleep.
kirlykird said:Sammystar I did
Lillou....I've already pm'd you,I'm tired of everything today
Sammystar... I think that is a good point in the link, as the BBC quote I posted earlier suggests that the DNA doesn't point to solid evidence
yeah i sent you one back chick, i totally understand, am sure with 3 kids id be knackered too
to be honest iv started to have a different opinion on the whole situation after reading the facts rather than the gossip
i didnt mean any offence in my posts previously
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DNA can't make someone look innocent. I think we have this notion that they are upstanding members of a community and parents which automatically counts them out as murderers.
No-one wants them to be guilty- but the truth is that they might be. Fred and Rose West killed their daughter, Harold Shipman was a trusted doctor... Ian Huntley was interviewed for television, approached the parents of Holly and Jessica and helped look for them- knowing he'd killed them.
They are suspects. That means we can suspect all we like until the are charged. Everyone was quite happy to believe it was Murat- because he had a duaghter who looked similar to Madeleine (!?)- but noone can accept that the parent smay have something to do with it.
On the othe hand, lets pray they dont.
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No-one wants them to be guilty- but the truth is that they might be. Fred and Rose West killed their daughter, Harold Shipman was a trusted doctor... Ian Huntley was interviewed for television, approached the parents of Holly and Jessica and helped look for them- knowing he'd killed them.
They are suspects. That means we can suspect all we like until the are charged. Everyone was quite happy to believe it was Murat- because he had a duaghter who looked similar to Madeleine (!?)- but noone can accept that the parent smay have something to do with it.
On the othe hand, lets pray they dont.
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Okay, I haven't read all the posts on this thread so sorry if I am repeating anyone, but for my two pence worth, I think they are innocent.
They have been followed day and night by the media since the story broke, when exactly did they have the time to go out unnoticed and dispose of a body?
Aside from that when I watch them speak on tv and or when I see image of them, I just believe them. I think they are toutured by the guilt of having left them alone, that shows in their faces but I can't believe they are murderers.
They have been followed day and night by the media since the story broke, when exactly did they have the time to go out unnoticed and dispose of a body?
Aside from that when I watch them speak on tv and or when I see image of them, I just believe them. I think they are toutured by the guilt of having left them alone, that shows in their faces but I can't believe they are murderers.
Jade_Number1 said:
Good point, and I'm certainly not under any illusions about them. There's always a possibility, until the case is solved, that they were somehow involved. I just find it highly unlikely, given the facts that we know so far.
The DNA evidence is one thing which is ropey to say the least, but the other parts of the police case seem extremely weak. Not least the assumption that they killed their daughter, disposed of the body, calmly went to dinner, then 'faked' a kidnapping.
Maybe the police know more than we do, and that's why they're persuing it. But from where I'm sitting, it's highly unlikely.
I did say I'd eat my laptop if they confess though!
I think they are innocent I really do.
I just don't think you kill your child accidently or otherwise and then go out and have a meal unless you are a cold blooded murderer and I don't think anyone thinks that.
I really feel for them - if they have not killed their daughter (which like I said above I don't think they have) they have now got to face the fact that one child is missing probably dead and they may be found guilty of a murder they didn't commit and taken away from their other two children - oh and have some people feeling that this is justice as we have seen from comments on here.
It must be a living nightmare and I think that unless a body and/or murderer is found they will always have that cloud of suspicion over their heads
I just don't think you kill your child accidently or otherwise and then go out and have a meal unless you are a cold blooded murderer and I don't think anyone thinks that.
I really feel for them - if they have not killed their daughter (which like I said above I don't think they have) they have now got to face the fact that one child is missing probably dead and they may be found guilty of a murder they didn't commit and taken away from their other two children - oh and have some people feeling that this is justice
as we have seen from comments on here. It must be a living nightmare and I think that unless a body and/or murderer is found they will always have that cloud of suspicion over their heads
