Smoking during pregnancy

[Manda&Thomas]

i quit 3 weeks ago and havent looked back since i was smoking 20 a day since i was 11 cut down to 10 a day with last pg (which i lost) and stoppped them this time round completly due to fear of losing this one aswell
hubby also quit with me
if you can pinklady get hold of a copy of allen carr's stop smoking book helped me i quit that day and had no cravings at all
good luck hun i no how hard it can be
manda xx

 

[Red_Fairy]

firstly id lik to give pink lady a massive hug

Im quite disgusted with this thread and some people on it jumping the gun to start hailing insults and suggestions that she mustnt love her baby enough cos she smokes. because somone has a problem with quitting smoking (which btw fooking thousands apon thousands of people do have a problem quitting everyday - theres some reports that it is addictive as herion ffs.) And start bringing up babies that have died! WTF? this has no relation to smoking whatsoever.
And if your one of the VERY few who could quit right away without a problem well well done, great, your so fooking perfect. Oh and you love your child more then me obviously. FFS.

I didnt quiet through Hannah - i went from 15 aday to 1 aday. And im still at that 1. Of a night before bed. Oh and i had a prefectly healthy baby who weighd 8lbs8oz - and she hasnt so much as had a sniffle in her four months on this planet.

Anyway - sending you hugs P.L and all the best with quitting

your language is disgusting, dont swear at people trying to help others. i dont think that anyones prefect.. but i think that people who quit straight off for the health of their children are a damn site more fair to their child that someone who continues to smoke...even one a day.. yeah fair enough people cut back.. but ur still putting toxins into your childs blood stream.. u may as well be drinking or taking drugs. and scientific evidence has proved it..

now id appreciate it if you stoped swearing like that.. yeah most of us do swear but i find direct langauge such as that to forum members insulting.

firsty i wasnt swearing at anyone who was 'helping', at a push it might be aimed at the people who were just telling her how 'disgusting' she was.
I do actually take back my language, id had a very bad day (see my previous post - back from hospital') so was feeling abit hormonal and sensitive.

 

[kellysomer]

How is it going today PL? Still doing well......keep going!!!!! Keep us updated then it'll be more incentive to keep going!

 

[Josephine_Beth]

i doubt smoking has an effect on an unborn baby to be honest.


Hugs to pink

Sorry just read that and think thats fkin sick.. there is proof that the unborn babies suffers because of smoking all you have to do is search the internet or read leaflets from the doctors/midwifes ..christ they even print it on cigarette packets .. how can you even begin to justify it. The fact that a mother has the choice to pump her body full of sh*tty chemicals is no choice of the unborn childs. As a mother you would do anything to protect your children from possible pain or avoidable problems surely??

No offence when I say this but you have a major tendency to attack people on this forum without a thought. Maybe you need to rethink how you post.

As for not harming, never said I had proof but I have seen 100 odd mothers smoke during pregnancy and it's had no effect on their children at all. 50yrs ago, we never had all this medical stuff we do now and babies were fine. I think the world worries too much now.

 

[lisa&alex]

i dunno about that Josephine, cot deaths and infant deaths were a whole lot higher back in the 50's, and smoking during pregnancy does harm the fetus, just type smoking in pregnancy into google and find out for yourself.

 

[krystal&jack]

i think this forum is amazing and since i found out i was pregnant have been addicted and have had some amazing advice from some girls -
however i have recently noticed that rather than just giving advice to someone in need we seem to be taking it as an oppurtunity to have a go at each other!!! What is the point?

We all have different views on various gthings relating to pregnancy but surely were al grown up enough to air these views without insulting each other and to try and get back to being a lovely happy forum where we can ask each other advice???

 

[annem]

i'm very sure it does effect babies!! I've seen it first hand in a friend of a friend who has a 1 year old that has coughed since birth!!

Come on girls give them up!! I know its not easy but its sure worth it!!

Good luck to every1 trying x x

 

[poppy160]

[quote="Josephine_Beth":20fbh9a7]
i doubt smoking has an effect on an unborn baby to be honest.


Hugs to pink

Sorry just read that and think thats fkin sick.. there is proof that the unborn babies suffers because of smoking all you have to do is search the internet or read leaflets from the doctors/midwifes ..christ they even print it on cigarette packets .. how can you even begin to justify it. The fact that a mother has the choice to pump her body full of sh*tty chemicals is no choice of the unborn childs. As a mother you would do anything to protect your children from possible pain or avoidable problems surely??

No offence when I say this but you have a major tendency to attack people on this forum without a thought. Maybe you need to rethink how you post.

As for not harming, never said I had proof but I have seen 100 odd mothers smoke during pregnancy and it's had no effect on their children at all. 50yrs ago, we never had all this medical stuff we do now and babies were fine. I think the world worries too much now.[/quote:20fbh9a7]

I don't think she's attacking people, she's sharing her opinion, hun, just like you. And what she does say makes alot of sense. Doctors wouldn't advise mums-to-be not to smoke just for the fun of it. Everything you eat/drink goes straight to your baby, why wouldn't chemicals from smoking? There may not be many physical effects on babies born to smoking mothers, but there's proof their organs can be significantly smaller as a result. There are also links to future lung problems, asthma and even cot death. This is a very sensitive subject and I understand people getting very opinionated about it.

 

[Josephine_Beth]

It shouldn't be up to others to judge how someone acts, yes of course, if people were jumping about doing drugs n getting drunk during a pregnancy, then stand up but smoking, it's up to that person at the end of the day.

We don't stand here and say 'so and so shouldn't drink that tap water during pregnancy, you could catch cancer'.

I think some people are too quick to give an opinion without realising what trouble it will cause.

 

[Urchin]

Ive had my eye on this thread for a while, and people are making some very valid points so I don't want to lock it or delete it, I like a good debate

However if the personal digs carry on I will have to do something (this is not aimed at anyone in particular the thread has been pretty full of personal remarks) so please keep to the point ladies or have it out in pms.

Cheers

 

[lisa&alex]

well sorry.. but in my opinion and scientific evidence has showed.. smoking is just as harmfull as doing drugs and drinking, you obviously dont think so.. and thats ur choice. however, i believe that a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. perhaps researching the subject may put you in a better possition to 'argue' the case for smoking, i also feel that you are taking others words and judging them yourself, so perhaps your own advise should be taken here.

 

[Urchin]

I agree some kind of evidence is usually required when stating stuff like this.

This goes for other areas of he forum too, if someone said weaning at 1 month old or switching totally to cows milk at 3 months doesn't do babies any harm I would ask for proof as it's quite a sweeping statement to put on a public forum when scientific evidence says otherwise.

 

[Josephine_Beth]

I don't mean to cause any offense or trouble but I don't look into all this sceince stuff too much. My grandma and great aunts never relied on it and they seem to have brought up some very healthy children.

I believe all in moderation is a good way to practise things. After all, if we followed all these science things, we'd been eating food out of those astronaught packs and walking around with funny masks on our faces.

yes, certain subjects will annoy us but we have to realise that people are after advice and not a witch hunt.

I think we have too many women and hormones on here lol

 

[Tillytots]

Smoking IS very harmful. Despite the proven and un-proven theories debate Ive seen what it does to people.

This year I witnessed somebody die from lung cancer which was caused by smoking. It was the most horrific and horendous thing I have ever seen. Its proof to me that it is bad.

At the end of the day if you smoke it is up to you and it is so easy to carry on thinking it will never happen to me but believe me when you see someone have a terminal massive hemoptysis (Exsanguination) it would be enough to put you off smoking for life. Maybe it is luck of the draw but sod being the one who draws that straw....

Its not just the babies health people should think of, its their own too.

 

[**C**]

Milna, I hope you never ever think about spending time shopping in your nearest city! If you do then I'm afraid you're an evil selfish witch

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I was a smoker on 20 a day until I found out I was pregnant with my first, and I have no idea how I managed it but I just stopped and that was that....I honestly didn't find it hard or suffer any side effects or even miss it! I have had the occasional one since he was born...but this was on nights out after *ahem* a few drinks before they brought the ban in up here last year and now I can't be bothered with it.

I don't think people should be criticised though when they ARE trying to stop as just like any addiction it can be really traumatic trying to stop.

Good luck pinklady....dont be hard on yourself and do the best you can. You will be incredibly proud of yourself, deservingly so when you succeed to stop completely

 

[Babylicious]

My Mum smoked all the way through her pregnancy with me and I was born weighing less that 4 1/2 pounds, I didn't gain weight well and was plaugued with illnesses throughout my childhood. I have asthma which leave me with a very weak chest, so when I get a cold 7 times out of 10 i end up with flu or at worst pheunmonia

 

[Becksss]

I dunno why this gets so heated lol and every1 gets their knickers in a twist cos its her baby if she wants 2 possibly harm it etc let her
she'll have the guilt for the rest of her life not us
ennnnnd of

 

[Josephine_Beth]

Smoking IS very harmful. Despite the proven and un-proven theories debate Ive seen what it does to people.

This year I witnessed somebody die from lung cancer which was caused by smoking. It was the most horrific and horendous thing I have ever seen. Its proof to me that it is bad.

At the end of the day if you smoke it is up to you and it is so easy to carry on thinking it will never happen to me but believe me when you see someone have a terminal massive hemoptysis (Exsanguination) it would be enough to put you off smoking for life. Maybe it is luck of the draw but sod being the one who draws that straw....

Its not just the babies health people should think of, its their own too.

I know how lung cancer is horrid to watch but my point being is that ranting and raving at others, won't get them to stop or see the bad effects, if anything, you will push them to keep doing it. The best treatment is the silent one.

I was always rattling on at my hubby to stop, then I realised that he wouldn't I haven't mentioned it for 6 weeks now and he has gone from 2 packets a day to 10 cigs a day.

People think it is easy to stop just like that but for a majority, it isn't at all. I had an easy way out, my pregnancy just made the taste and smell of cigs so much stronger that I just quit straight off.

I've seen my uncle (well my mum's) die from being an alcoholic, he passed away at the age of 74, he'd been a alcoholic since his 30's. I've had a drink problem and it took me a year to finally stop. But I will not rant and rave about what drink does to your liver/brain/heart and your skin. Believe me, you won't want to know.

If someone wants to stop, they will but if they don't want to stop, there is not point wasting your time.

 

[gangofgin]

i quit smoking around a year ago but started again a couple of months later. when i found out i was pregnant, i quit again, i know its more of a reason for quitting, doing it because im pregnant. its been nearly a week without a cigarette and i could have killed for one a few times but i know i wont have one. all 4 of my grandparents died because of smoking related illnesses, neither of my parents are smokers but my dad was brought up in pubs and both of his parents were heavy smokers and he now has copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) as a result of passive smoking, and hes never touched a cigarette himself in his life.
smoking was my choice, i can do whatever to my own body, but when it starts to harm other people, its selfish, no doubt about it.

 

[lisa&alex]

"Josephine_Beth - The best treatment is the silent one."

i think some people - like yourself dont know the harm the smoking causes to fetus' and if they ask is anyone else smoking, coz i am struggling to quit, they are asking for peoples opinions. so i would say that the best treatment is reality..people have said their experience's of smoking whether to themselfs family or friends, and then the results on it on their babys.

i think people have been quite informative, some a little harsh when it comes to the reality of it all, however correct. and i think that this has not just benifited the original poster, but those who are struggeling right now and probably those in the future who stummble accross this.