How much do you get for child benefit?

[babyem]

Nobody said that those who are on high incomes are wasteful with their money..

 

[katey123]

But having children is a choice .xx

Yes a choice for those on high and low wage!

I think there are plenty of children born to those who are claiming benefits too I guess they manage somehow with no wage .xx

 

[Lolly85x]

It's not about posh cars or M&S food
It's about the fact that as a higher earner you are likely to have a mortgage in line with your salary, therefore you are expected to make payments each month that reflect that salary. You also have house insurance and council tax payments based on a larger property.
But you are expected to make these payments on SMP (impossible) or be forced back to work immediately, like I will be.

And in my opinion... If it wasn't for the higher earners in this country, doing better jobs, paying more tax, living in these bigger houses, having more money when they are working full time then this country would be in an even bigger state than what it is!!!!
I can't agree more that people live within there means...xxx

 

[EmmaN27]

I think it works both ways. If you say why should those who earn more get child benefit, you should also question why those who choose not to work and claim benefits should get child benefit.

 

[dyscochick]

I think it works both ways. If you say why should those who earn more get child benefit, you should also question why those who choose not to work and claim benefits should get child benefit.

I think you are right Emma and I think thats why a couple of people mentioned that how we think about child benefit is wrong. if the child benefit is for the child, all children should be entitled to it, regardless of the family income.

 

[Froslass]

No one is complaining about people on benefits here.

Child benefit is different IMO.

As I said there are always going to be exceptions to the rule ie, people who are too lazy to work and live off benefits, and people who really don't need the child benefit.

But for the majority of people, most people on benefits needs them, and most higher earners aren't not in need.

 

[FirstBabyEek]

I know that but I blatently know people who dont need the money yet claim it is what I mean. So to me thats wrong if you need it and your entitled to it fine. If you dont need it fine.

I completely see your point here and I agree with you. Benefits are provided for a reason, to those who need, its not anyones place to judge that apart from those who give it out. But the moral side of the arguement is subjective is it not?

With the state of the economy the way it is, you would expect a society in which those that dont 'need' it wouldnt claim it.

BUT on the flip side....

I can completely understand those that dont 'need' it but have worked hard all their adult life, paid their taxes etc may decide that as they've never claimed anything before and ARE entitled to a little extra, then why not claim it if they can as their child will need the same as the next child? Again thats no one elses place to judge.

I dont think this issue will ever be resolved fairly, there will always be people that miss out because they just earn a little too much to qualify and I think this will always continue to be the case no matter where that marker is set.

This is where DH & I fall, we qualify for nothing - BUT rather than complain we just get on with it. Yes it's annoying sometimes, particulalry when we're struggling to get onto the property ladder, like 99% of the population, we get on with it because we have to.

I feel blessed in so many other ways in my life.
x

 

[russellmuscle]

yeah, Im not even claiming even though im entitled to, and primarily this is the reason - there is always going to be views or judgements made when it comes to money.

i could sit and say well i pay taxes and i work and there are people who sit and do nothing bla bla but im not - and because im not affected because i wont be claiming, but there are people who get affected that need it..

ie due to the amount of people who do claim (regardless of needed or not) cameron is trying to stop certain benefits and make it really hard for people I personally think - and so if those people who dont particularly need it didnt claim it would reduce the goverment outgoings a bit and perhaps prolong it for those who do need it?

I think after this comment I will unsubscribe as you say - there will always be an opionion as there are two sides the people who claim because they can and entitled to and thats fine and then theres the people who dont earn enough and are entitled. Both are entitled and I have already expressed my opinion to which I think is wrong or not..

Sorry its a long day at work, I started off all breezy and happy now im just tired and want to go home - I cant be bothered responding to every single comment and Im not too fussed on having the last word in lolol jk!

xxxxxx

 

[Jayjay027]

I can see both sides too, but I was just pointing out that people on high wages have had a go about people on benefits quite a lot on here.

I was on benefits before, I didn't want to be claiming JSA, I'd rather work and earn my own money and do something productive with my day, I was on it for a couple of months and had no luck getting a job, despite applying for anything and everything - and its so disheartening! That's what pushed me to finally get on with my freelance work. God knows how long I'd have been on benefits if I didn't have that to fall back on! And it was seriously difficult to get by, even though my husband works full time, there were days when we didn't eat cuz we simply couldn't afford to! It was an awful time for us!

I think if you've paid ur taxes, then fair enough, ur entitled to certain benefits to help u along, but I was just pointing out that there's another side, and I've seen it being discussed on here a lot in the past and its really wound me up!

 

[katey123]

Firstbaby , I think you have a very fair view and I also think your right .

An ideal world : If people thought that they didn't need child benefit they would not claim it , equally if they discovered their banks were to full they're stop claiming their wages too. Exactly it's just not human is it.

Each and every person can find a NEED for extra money , and if everyone who pays in feels ENTITLED to claim it all back this country would fold . Because it is the country's money not ours , and we may not agree but the government decide where it is spent.

A flip side to what most seem to be argueing about is what about a person who has no children they still have to pay tax and ni , the ni that is paying towards your NHS hospitals so you can have children for free, and the nurseries and schools are paid for from their tax's and they never receive a penny in Child benefit do they? it's not fair.
Or indeed one or my bug bears the well off pensioners jetty off the sunny climates and claiming full benefits from the same tax pot , where anyone under the age of 50 has paid into and will never receive a pension from. How is that fair ? it's not .

It is impossible to please everyone all of the time . This is the way of the world though. xx

 

[katie_lou]

I don't see the problem with people claiming child benefit even if they do earn a high wage , they pay there taxes and put money into the system and they are entitiled to it . Xxx

 

[cosmicgirl]

But having children is a choice .xx

So because I'm a higher earner I'm penalised and disciminated against?? Should i not be able to have children then??
I don't think you've thought that comment through.
I should supported to have a family as much as the next person.

 

[cosmicgirl]

But having children is a choice .xx

Yes a choice for those on high and low wage!

Here here!!! x

 

[katey123]

But having children is a choice .xx

So because I'm a higher earner I'm penalised and disciminated against?? Should i not be able to have children then??
I don't think you've thought that comment through.
I should supported to have a family as much as the next person.

But equally why should someone else who has chosen not to have child pay for yours , or mine , I not judging I'm just asking the question so that you can see ,all around it's unfair to everyone in different ways . The fairest way would be to remove Child benefit altogether and two tier the whole system those who choose to have children and those who do not ,but that is very unlikely to happen , so as it stands it's unfair all round I totally agree , everyone is entitled to have children but why do some think others should pay ? xx

 

[Sarah85]

Good grief what is this thread!
I think that every single persons circumstances are completely different. Yes the are people who don't really need that extra £80 but who are we to say who can and who can't have that money for their LO's future. Some people earning over 40k will be very thankful of tha extra money and why shouldn't they have it, they pay taxes. You could argue that all people on benefits are bums sitting at home doing fuck all but that's obviously not true either.
I'm not on the poverty line yet I'm not a huge earner either, yet I would NEVER begrudge anyone who had what they are entitled for no matter what they earn.
I think we should all be grateful we get anything, we could be living in a society where having a frigging house over our heads is considered luxury!

 

[BellaRiven]

I printed my forms off online from the directgov website and you have 3 months to claim x x

 

[babyem]

I can see both sides too, but I was just pointing out that people on high wages have had a go about people on benefits quite a lot on here.

I was on benefits before, I didn't want to be claiming JSA, I'd rather work and earn my own money and do something productive with my day, I was on it for a couple of months and had no luck getting a job, despite applying for anything and everything - and its so disheartening! That's what pushed me to finally get on with my freelance work. God knows how long I'd have been on benefits if I didn't have that to fall back on! And it was seriously difficult to get by, even though my husband works full time, there were days when we didn't eat cuz we simply couldn't afford to! It was an awful time for us!

I think if you've paid ur taxes, then fair enough, ur entitled to certain benefits to help u along, but I was just pointing out that there's another side, and I've seen it being discussed on here a lot in the past and its really wound me up!

I agree, people have had a go about those on benefits before, but now people have commented on people who earn a high income it's all of a sudden become unacceptable.

 

[Sarah85]

I think it's both unacceptable to be honest. Think there's genuine people who need to be on benefits and there's the scroungers (most of whom went to my school lol) and there's the high earners who need help sometimes and others who just want something for nothing.

 

[cosmicgirl]

I think it's both unacceptable to be honest. Think there's genuine people who need to be on benefits and there's the scroungers (most of whom went to my school lol) and there's the high earners who need help sometimes and others who just want something for nothing.

Well said x

 

[l_maclean]

I'll be perfectly honest here - we don't NEED child benefit, all of Georgias is currently sitting in an account untouched! BUT - that's not to say we WON'T need it.

My husband has a good wage, but working/living in an oil city is expensive. And just because we don't need it to feed/clothe a baby doesn't mean we won't need it for school clothes, or text books, or university fees. Just because we are in the fortunate position at the moment to include her in out current wages, doesn't mean we will always be.

I see nothing wrong with there bring certain "benefits" available to everyone. Things like bus passes, child benefit, etc, at the end of the day the high earners put a LOT into the pot, surely it's not too much to ask for them to get just a little bit out.

Xxx


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