Sorry but HUGE rant about our twatty govt!

[Me, My Girls & I]

Rheych, i've got an iphone, but i got it on a very reasonable contract and i also dont have a home phone and at the time i got it i didnt have home internet either! i still dont have broadband, just a shitty dongle!

and i too am infuriated by the "you just need a break" comments! gives the rest of us a bad name like! what if everyone suddenly decided they needed a break and wanted to claim benefits?! although, i'm not sure i could call looking after 2 kids on my own a break, it would probably actually be easier for me going to work (if i didnt have to get them ready and out the door etc) than spending all day every day doing what i do! i'm absolutely knackered constantly cos i dont get any help aside from them going to their dads for 6 hours on a sunday! i'm not complaining, cos they're my kids and i've got to do what i've got to do, but just making the point that its not easy!

 

[pinkymum]

I agree with Lexi, it infuriates me that people assume that as you are working full-time and on a decent wage that you can manage better than people who get handouts from the government.

I put myself through uni to get a good education and a better chance of getting a good job/career and consequently have 18k worth of debt from fees and living costs. I have massive outgoings each month, a mortgage, a car to run (which i need for work) and a baby to save for. I have also worked since I was 14 and never got handouts from the family either. I am not saying that people in certain situations shouldn't get help. I would never want to see someone do without, especially a single parent with a baby. It just shouldn't be so hard/easy for people to stay on benefits IMO. Whether the government invest more in 'back to work' programmes or make it easier/free to get childcare I don't know, that's for them to come up with!

I will say though that saying 'you sometimes just need a break from work' is the most infuriating comment I have read!!!! there are people who have posted here and who I know personally who would KILL for any type of work at the moment, just deciding to stop cos' it was 'too hard' is total turd.

I would also like to know how some people can afford I-phones when they are on benefits?! I know I can't manage the contract on my 'decent' wage

Ok I have an iPhone because my friend gave me his old one when he got the new iPhone 4 as an upgrade. I use a payg sim card. The iPhone was free. And no I couldn't afford one either!
I also went to uni when I was younger and started my nursing, I became ill and wasn't allowed to carry on. You have no idea the kind of life I've had, the amount of voluntary work I've done and the amount of work I've done on myself so I can manage this illness! I would love to swap lives with someone else! I'm grateful for the financial help I've had. And I certainly don't buy designer clothes, go on holiday and have the best stuff. I'm so thankful that I'm the person I am today, and thankful that when my child is older I will be able to work and study. But before these things couldn't happen.
I guess it's hard to understand if you've never been there. But it's very upsetting when people make judgements and they know nothing about me!


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[misscrazycooki]

like I said look at why I quit then judge me

 

[fairydust1984]

I agree with Lexi, it infuriates me that people assume that as you are working full-time and on a decent wage that you can manage better than people who get handouts from the government.

I put myself through uni to get a good education and a better chance of getting a good job/career and consequently have 18k worth of debt from fees and living costs. I have massive outgoings each month, a mortgage, a car to run (which i need for work) and a baby to save for. I have also worked since I was 14 and never got handouts from the family either. I am not saying that people in certain situations shouldn't get help. I would never want to see someone do without, especially a single parent with a baby. It just shouldn't be so hard/easy for people to stay on benefits IMO. Whether the government invest more in 'back to work' programmes or make it easier/free to get childcare I don't know, that's for them to come up with!

I will say though that saying 'you sometimes just need a break from work' is the most infuriating comment I have read!!!! there are people who have posted here and who I know personally who would KILL for any type of work at the moment, just deciding to stop cos' it was 'too hard' is total turd.

I would also like to know how some people can afford I-phones when they are on benefits?! I know I can't manage the contract on my 'decent' wage

Ok I have an iPhone because my friend gave me his old one when he got the new iPhone 4 as an upgrade. I use a payg sim card. The iPhone was free. And no I couldn't afford one either!
I also went to uni when I was younger and started my nursing, I became ill and wasn't allowed to carry on. You have no idea the kind of life I've had, the amount of voluntary work I've done and the amount of work I've done on myself so I can manage this illness! I would love to swap lives with someone else! I'm grateful for the financial help I've had. And I certainly don't buy designer clothes, go on holiday and have the best stuff. I'm so thankful that I'm the person I am today, and thankful that when my child is older I will be able to work and study. But before these things couldn't happen.
I guess it's hard to understand if you've never been there. But it's very upsetting when people make judgements and they know nothing about me!


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i don't think the comments about people on benefits are personal to you i think they are aimed at the minority who screw the system there definatly needs to be some system to help the truly needy and those who genuinley can't work

 

[pinkymum]

I agree with Lexi, it infuriates me that people assume that as you are working full-time and on a decent wage that you can manage better than people who get handouts from the government.

I put myself through uni to get a good education and a better chance of getting a good job/career and consequently have 18k worth of debt from fees and living costs. I have massive outgoings each month, a mortgage, a car to run (which i need for work) and a baby to save for. I have also worked since I was 14 and never got handouts from the family either. I am not saying that people in certain situations shouldn't get help. I would never want to see someone do without, especially a single parent with a baby. It just shouldn't be so hard/easy for people to stay on benefits IMO. Whether the government invest more in 'back to work' programmes or make it easier/free to get childcare I don't know, that's for them to come up with!

I will say though that saying 'you sometimes just need a break from work' is the most infuriating comment I have read!!!! there are people who have posted here and who I know personally who would KILL for any type of work at the moment, just deciding to stop cos' it was 'too hard' is total turd.

I would also like to know how some people can afford I-phones when they are on benefits?! I know I can't manage the contract on my 'decent' wage

Ok I have an iPhone because my friend gave me his old one when he got the new iPhone 4 as an upgrade. I use a payg sim card. The iPhone was free. And no I couldn't afford one either!
I also went to uni when I was younger and started my nursing, I became ill and wasn't allowed to carry on. You have no idea the kind of life I've had, the amount of voluntary work I've done and the amount of work I've done on myself so I can manage this illness! I would love to swap lives with someone else! I'm grateful for the financial help I've had. And I certainly don't buy designer clothes, go on holiday and have the best stuff. I'm so thankful that I'm the person I am today, and thankful that when my child is older I will be able to work and study. But before these things couldn't happen.
I guess it's hard to understand if you've never been there. But it's very upsetting when people make judgements and they know nothing about me!


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i don't think the comments about people on benefits are personal to you i think they are aimed at the minority who screw the system there definatly needs to be some system to help the truly needy and those who genuinley can't work

Thanks Hun....
I tend to take things personal lol. But all this really does upset me. I should probably stop reading


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[Me, My Girls & I]

crazycookie, to be fair, you did initially just say that you quit cos you needed a break, so what else are people meant to think?! and if i could, i would actually do your old job! infact, i'd do any job right now if i could find someone to look after my children!

 

[misscrazycooki]

still think Rheych look at my posts doubt they will but hey sick of people bitching and not knowing the facts!

 

[misscrazycooki]

I did I was sick of working my arse off to fund nothing I was basically killing myself by working... It wasn't pretty I think your health should come first then a job not like I've not tried to get a better job but since getting pregnant employers don't want to know so hardly my fault I have been trying...

 

[Rheych]

misscrazycooki: chill out, you hadn't said any of that in your first post and it sounded as though you were on a right jolly! I worked in a care home for 3 years myself and know how shit it is, but that fuelled me further to work hard at school for my A levels and get myself to uni so I wasn't stuck working there forever. That was my choice though and I was lucky to have a support network around me encouraging me to progress. I will do my hardest to make sure my baby is encouraged the same way too so that there's at least one less person in this coutry who isn't sucked in to the benefits culture.

 

[misscrazycooki]

I don't want to be on them, Frankly you can't do anything good these days you get good grades and still no job you do shit you get better jobs than those who deserve them?

I have frankly given up on this goverment its crap. I'd love to be a computer techician or do something based with computers but I haven't the money for uni and no one will take me on for the training even though I did a computer course in college for two years and passed that.. I'm not stupid but it seems the thickos always get the training more offered than the people who actually want it

 

[Rheych]

have you been to your local college? there are loads of courses available for unemployed people now to help you get back to work.

Re: the iphones, what contract are you on get me signed up! haha

fairydust/pinkymum I wasn't being personal at all I am sure you have good reasons for needing thje benefits system and I am glad you can appreciate the frustration of those of us who are in work

 

[pinkymum]

I also worked in a care home.....loved the residents but the some of the stuff that went on was disgusting. The residents were treated like animals


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[pinkymum]

have you been to your local college? there are loads of courses available for unemployed people now to help you get back to work.

Re: the iphones, what contract are you on get me signed up! haha

fairydust/pinkymum I wasn't being personal at all I am sure you have good reasons for needing thje benefits system and I am glad you can appreciate the frustration of those of us who are in work

That's ok Hun, I tend to be a bit sensitive!


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[Me, My Girls & I]

Supermarkets will take almost anyone on and plenty of places are taking on Xmas temps...

I'm with orange and have been for years so got a special rate lol

 

[Momma`Kat]

Lets look at it differently for a sec. Let's forget about people that are on benefits and are on tHem for the right reasons. So actually using the system the way it's supposed to. After all it's not these people that we see in the press.

The people that are in the press are people that declare happily that they are on benefits because they dont want to work. These people admit that they can't be bothered to work and that they say that they can get more from the govenment then they can working ( side note, benefits must pay far too much so it either needs to be lowered or wages raised to incentivise these people). What will anger a working person is that they are having to fund someone who admits that the money they get fund their holidays, designer clothes, boob jobs, cigs, alcohol etc etc etc plus these people say how the more kids they have the more money they get and the bigger a house thy can get.

Now look at it from a workers point of view:

not all workers can afford to have child after child, holidays , boob jobs, designer clothes etc hemselves so why should thhey pay for others. If they want a house
they have to pay the rent increases associated with a bigger house or save for years for a good deposit and then spend hundreds a month on the mortgage... Moving means higher council tax depending on the area and size of house.

I think what may annoy a worker is the straight away reaction of " I don't get enough from the goventment", " I don't get what I deserves from the government they are screwing me over" to a worker that means " the person that is working isn't giving me enough money for free... They work long hours but it's not enough, I want more so thy can have less". Maybe if there was an initial reaction of " i really appreciate those that work, after all it helps the system to work and therfore I am able to afford certain things" etc

I think it's important to look at how much it actually costs to work.Think about costs to get to work, clothes for work etc etc after all that there is not much left spare for anything else... Bills eat up nearly all of their salary. So really you end up in the same situation as people on benefits. Everyone has to make ends meat... And it is importnant that everyone lives within their means.


There is no right or wrong answer guys. We need the benefit system for any time that you or I may or may not need it. It's just important that the ones abusing it shouldn't get away with it as it not fair on workers or people that honestly need the help.xx


What probably

- Beneifits must pay far to much

Really? Uh have you ever tried living on £40 a week?

- having to fund someone who admits that the money they get fund their holidays, designer clothes, boob jobs, cigs, alcohol etc etc etc

I wanna see someone on benefits pay for that kinda stuff.. Cause everyone on benefits that I know (And I live on a council estate) Can barely cover essential costs with what they recieve.

 

[Rheych]

Supermarkets will take almost anyone on and plenty of places are taking on Xmas temps...

I'm with orange and have been for years so got a special rate lol

exactly, my Mum used to do 3 cleaning jobs during the last recession to get by, there's ALWAYS something you can do to get paid for.....even the oldest trade in the history of necessary (joke!!)

 

[Momma`Kat]

Supermarkets will take almost anyone on and plenty of places are taking on Xmas temps...

I'm with orange and have been for years so got a special rate lol

exactly, my Mum used to do 3 cleaning jobs during the last recession to get by, there's ALWAYS something you can do to get paid for.....even the oldest trade in the history of necessary (joke!!)

Turns out, Not the biggest market with pregnant women there though, I did online webcam work (perfectly legal setup though!) for a while before I got pregnant, pay was shit, but every little helps eh! Was told I couldnt carry on when I was pregnant.

 

[Me, My Girls & I]

rheych! There's always phonelines! Now that is something I've considered

 

[Rheych]

rheych! There's always phonelines! Now that is something I've considered

What a vision!! swollen ankles, tub of ice cream resting on bump and purring down the phone whilst some dirty old man/ 15 year old tosses one off at the other end of the line

 

[misscrazycooki]

been college when i was 16-18 don't matter no employeer cares that you have done a course they all want experience but noone will give you a job so you never get the experience needed its a catch 22.

As for affording everything I struggle all the time since my OH borrowed so much off the social for his habit ( weed ) hopefully once his son is here he will have quit I hate living on the breadline and waiting for the money I would rather have a job but I keep getting rejection letters I even go a reply in two minutes saying no because I had no experience and that was call handling in a call centre i was like wtf you couldn't have even read my CV or cover letter.

*******s! lol