MMR jab?!

[Dragonfly Fi]

I'm not loving the argumentative nature of this thread, but I do want to add something interesting that's come up recently in education news (I'm a teacher and therefore have quite a lot of contact with pupils on the Autistic Spectrum, and I previously worked in an ASD class) - they found that autism most likely is formed in a part of the brain that is actually developed in the womb. Therefore, autism and it's associated disorders may indeed already be an underlying condition by the time they are born, and it only becomes apparent at a certain age/ stage of development.
This is still very new information, and needs a lot more research (as well as the fact that the study was only done in boys, and although it is mostly boys that display characteristic of autism, I don't think it's a fair study without removing extraneous variables such as gender), but it's something that is very interesting to parents and teachers of children on the autistic spectrum. It could completely change the way we look at it.

I am not discrediting any individuals experiences, or studies carried out on the effects of the mmr jag, and I'm not saying I agree either way whether it does or it doesn't. I'm just sharing some information I thought was really interesting

Very interesting, i read something about this in new scientist Years ago, i suppose they are in the study stage now and we will hear more when thats completed.

I think there are so so many levels to autism, dyslexia, dyspraxia leading up to full blown autism, i have not seen any study done that takes them all into account. Its hard because we know more and more about these things throughout time so we dont know if the lack of these things in the past is due to a new factor (like the mmr) or due to just our better knowledge.

I think, personally that many people may have some form of autism regardless of how mild, and i worry that the MMR may make those who have some mild form of it more serious, than necessarily causing the imbalance in the first place.

Regardless, i have not got firm enough evidence myself that there is enough reason to give the vaccine, nor that it does not cause autism

and regardless of that the contraindications on the vaccine include auto-immunity disorders (like ME and MS) along with a variety of other reactions which to me was enough to make me think twice

I cannot stress enough that without any link to autism whatsoever, there is still plenty of reasons to research MMR along with your own family history to see whether there is any indication of complications x

 

[leesey]

Very interesting, i read something about this in new scientist Years ago, i suppose they are in the study stage now and we will hear more when thats completed.

I think there are so so many levels to autism, dyslexia, dyspraxia leading up to full blown autism, i have not seen any study done that takes them all into account.

Believe it or not, this one does, because it's to to with the psychosocial and affective traits of austistic spectrum disorders (encompassing autism, aspergers, and other characteristics on the autistic spectrum, although dyslexia and dyspraxia are not autistic spectrum disorders they are specific learning difficulties), that's why it's so interesting and imo revolutionary!! It completely rules out environmental factors. The part of the brain they referred to (the prefrontal cortex) is developed in utero, but there is possibly a link to the testosterone hormone which might be why boys are more likely to have autistic traits.

I find it so fascinating (in case you hadn't guessed!) but definitely requires more study, which I look forward to reading about

 

[Dragonfly Fi]

How good that they are doing such a thorough study...

I look forward to hearing more about it, keep us posted! x

 

[Maria1977]

Im near Ipswich in Suffolk and it was offered as all 3 or individually xx

Do you know if they will take private outpatients at all? I don't mind going to Ipswich, Norwich is easier but if that isn't an option Ipswich wouldn't be too bad!

 

[Amyrose]

All my immunisation decisions were informed ones mmr is not the enemy it's the illnesses it's vaccinating against. I would rather it all done in one go rather then wait and hope my child did not get sick. I wonder how many cases there are where people waited and there kiddies got poorly as a direct result? There are pros and cons on both sides. It's a very personal choice everyone should make an informed one.

 

[nikki8092]

All my immunisation decisions were informed ones mmr is not the enemy it's the illnesses it's vaccinating against. I would rather it all done in one go rather then wait and hope my child did not get sick. I wonder how many cases there are where people waited and there kiddies got poorly as a direct result? There are pros and cons on both sides. It's a very personal choice everyone should make an informed one.

Totally agree, i would rather have them done in one go mainly as its out of the way and i wouldnt want to put my babies through 3 lots of injections rather than 1. And also have them done sooner rather than later as i would feel guilty if they got ill because i wanted to wait xx

 

[Dragonfly Fi]

All my immunisation decisions were informed ones mmr is not the enemy it's the illnesses it's vaccinating against. I would rather it all done in one go rather then wait and hope my child did not get sick. I wonder how many cases there are where people waited and there kiddies got poorly as a direct result? There are pros and cons on both sides. It's a very personal choice everyone should make an informed one.

Definitely, which is why when discussing such a personal decision, we should be careful not to get lost in personal jipes etc, obviously its something that is very close to peoples hearts.

No body is suggesting you haven't made an informed choice, only that our research has led us to different information which we want to share, its not a slur on you, its just that we have found a different conclusion

Everyone should be allowed to talk about what they think is right or wrong, thats part of the nature of threads like this

 

[Amyrose]

I think you are misunderstanding my post as some form of aggression!
I just merely posted my view as everyone else has I have no intension of getting personal with anyone nor do I wish to get locked in a who's right and who's wrong debate. I respect eveyones choice. I just happen to think mine was the best for my children.

 

[Dragonfly Fi]

I think you are misunderstanding my post as some form of aggression!
I just merely posted my view as everyone else has I have no intension of getting personal with anyone nor do I wish to get locked in a who's right and who's wrong debate. I respect eveyones choice. I just happen to think mine was the best for my children.

I am truly sorry if what i said seemed aggressive or in response to aggression, it was really not meant that way x

 

[Amyrose]

It's ok Fi we are all big girls when we feel strongly about something it's hard to get your point cross in the way we want. X