Dragonfly Fi
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I'm not loving the argumentative nature of this thread, but I do want to add something interesting that's come up recently in education news (I'm a teacher and therefore have quite a lot of contact with pupils on the Autistic Spectrum, and I previously worked in an ASD class) - they found that autism most likely is formed in a part of the brain that is actually developed in the womb. Therefore, autism and it's associated disorders may indeed already be an underlying condition by the time they are born, and it only becomes apparent at a certain age/ stage of development.
This is still very new information, and needs a lot more research (as well as the fact that the study was only done in boys, and although it is mostly boys that display characteristic of autism, I don't think it's a fair study without removing extraneous variables such as gender), but it's something that is very interesting to parents and teachers of children on the autistic spectrum. It could completely change the way we look at it.
I am not discrediting any individuals experiences, or studies carried out on the effects of the mmr jag, and I'm not saying I agree either way whether it does or it doesn't. I'm just sharing some information I thought was really interesting
Very interesting, i read something about this in new scientist Years ago, i suppose they are in the study stage now and we will hear more when thats completed.
I think there are so so many levels to autism, dyslexia, dyspraxia leading up to full blown autism, i have not seen any study done that takes them all into account. Its hard because we know more and more about these things throughout time so we dont know if the lack of these things in the past is due to a new factor (like the mmr) or due to just our better knowledge.
I think, personally that many people may have some form of autism regardless of how mild, and i worry that the MMR may make those who have some mild form of it more serious, than necessarily causing the imbalance in the first place.
Regardless, i have not got firm enough evidence myself that there is enough reason to give the vaccine, nor that it does not cause autism
and regardless of that the contraindications on the vaccine include auto-immunity disorders (like ME and MS) along with a variety of other reactions which to me was enough to make me think twice
I cannot stress enough that without any link to autism whatsoever, there is still plenty of reasons to research MMR along with your own family history to see whether there is any indication of complications x