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Brown spotting - anyone had this and baby ok?
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They could be wrong hun 
when i went for my first scan with tia at 7 weeks by my lmp, they said all they could see was a sac and no fetal pole at all and that it was measuring 5 weeks. They told me to go back in 2 weeks, i was crapping it all that time and in floods of tears but when they did the scan you could see her plain as day and see her little heart fluttering away.
They Could be wrong love and that its just too early to see anything, heres wishing you all the love and luck in the world
when i went for my first scan with tia at 7 weeks by my lmp, they said all they could see was a sac and no fetal pole at all and that it was measuring 5 weeks. They told me to go back in 2 weeks, i was crapping it all that time and in floods of tears but when they did the scan you could see her plain as day and see her little heart fluttering away.They Could be wrong love and that its just too early to see anything, heres wishing you all the love and luck in the world
Baileysmummy
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Thanks everyone.
I'm still trying to hang on to the tiny thread of hope that somehow a miracle will happen by next Tuesday, but realistically I don't think it will.
Because I charted and used the CBEFM, I know exactly when I ovulated. I know that the 6w6d by LMP is rubbish, but that from my ovulation date, I should have been around 6w1d or 6w2d. The sac measured 6w0d, or 14mm, apparently, and you really should see something by five and a half weeks.
Having said that, I asked DH last night if he caught the third measurement and he said it was 4 (I'd heard that too, but assumed I misheard, and that in fact it was 14, the average of the first two and the one that was used as the overall measurement). If it was in fact 4, then the average is 11mm, not 14, which is more consistent with a gestational age of 5w4-5d - which might be just a little too early to see the yolk sac/foetal pole. However, that would also mean that the sac was irregularly shaped and was very small for dates (unless I implanted late), which is not a good sign!
I'm feeling quite down about it, because we'd been trying for so long and we thought finally it was our turn, but I've pretty much accepted that it just wasn't meant to be this time. Goodness only knows when the right time will be... soon, I hope. The strange thing is that I seem to have completely stopped spotting. Nothing since Monday morning... I'd rather hoped that if it was over, it was goign to be over quickly but I guess not. Having written this, I bet I now start bleeding properly this afternoon!
I'm still trying to hang on to the tiny thread of hope that somehow a miracle will happen by next Tuesday, but realistically I don't think it will.
Because I charted and used the CBEFM, I know exactly when I ovulated. I know that the 6w6d by LMP is rubbish, but that from my ovulation date, I should have been around 6w1d or 6w2d. The sac measured 6w0d, or 14mm, apparently, and you really should see something by five and a half weeks.
Having said that, I asked DH last night if he caught the third measurement and he said it was 4 (I'd heard that too, but assumed I misheard, and that in fact it was 14, the average of the first two and the one that was used as the overall measurement). If it was in fact 4, then the average is 11mm, not 14, which is more consistent with a gestational age of 5w4-5d - which might be just a little too early to see the yolk sac/foetal pole. However, that would also mean that the sac was irregularly shaped and was very small for dates (unless I implanted late), which is not a good sign!
I'm feeling quite down about it, because we'd been trying for so long and we thought finally it was our turn, but I've pretty much accepted that it just wasn't meant to be this time. Goodness only knows when the right time will be... soon, I hope. The strange thing is that I seem to have completely stopped spotting. Nothing since Monday morning... I'd rather hoped that if it was over, it was goign to be over quickly but I guess not. Having written this, I bet I now start bleeding properly this afternoon!
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Kitty I know that you are being pragmatic and sensible about all this but please dont lose total hope....
Hi all. Thanks for your support.
The scan showed that the sac had increased from 13.7 to 15.2 mm in a week (not very good, it should be increasing by 1mm a day!) and it's totally empty. Both the sonographer and the midwife spent ages moving the probe around, trying to examine it from all angles, doing their best to see something (I had both an abdominal and an internal scan) but there was definitely nothing there. The spotting turned to bleeding yesterday, so I marked it as miscarriage from then, which was 8 weeks. The midwife said that technically I'm still pregnant and it's not a miscarriage until the scan shows that either the sac has passed, or that it has reached 20mm and is still empty - but that in her experience, she would now describe miscarriage as inevitable. I have to go back for a scan in a couple of weeks' time. I said that as far as I was concerned, if I was still pregnant, I'd be avoiding alcohol, but if I'd miscarried, I'd like to have a couple of glasses of wine on our wedding anniversary next week, and then she smiled, and said that if she was me, she'd be pouring herself a large glass of wine that night.
So that's that. She's also recommended that once the bleeding stops and once the scan has confirmed it's over, we should get our doctor to refer us back to the hospital for testing (which he'd said he was going to do anyway) as it's now a year and two miscarriages (one's a chem pg though, so I don't really think of that as a m/c - but the hospital does).
We opened a bottle of wine on Tuesday night, and I booked us a holiday yesterday, for end of September... I think we both need it!
The scan showed that the sac had increased from 13.7 to 15.2 mm in a week (not very good, it should be increasing by 1mm a day!) and it's totally empty. Both the sonographer and the midwife spent ages moving the probe around, trying to examine it from all angles, doing their best to see something (I had both an abdominal and an internal scan) but there was definitely nothing there. The spotting turned to bleeding yesterday, so I marked it as miscarriage from then, which was 8 weeks. The midwife said that technically I'm still pregnant and it's not a miscarriage until the scan shows that either the sac has passed, or that it has reached 20mm and is still empty - but that in her experience, she would now describe miscarriage as inevitable. I have to go back for a scan in a couple of weeks' time. I said that as far as I was concerned, if I was still pregnant, I'd be avoiding alcohol, but if I'd miscarried, I'd like to have a couple of glasses of wine on our wedding anniversary next week, and then she smiled, and said that if she was me, she'd be pouring herself a large glass of wine that night.
So that's that. She's also recommended that once the bleeding stops and once the scan has confirmed it's over, we should get our doctor to refer us back to the hospital for testing (which he'd said he was going to do anyway) as it's now a year and two miscarriages (one's a chem pg though, so I don't really think of that as a m/c - but the hospital does).
We opened a bottle of wine on Tuesday night, and I booked us a holiday yesterday, for end of September... I think we both need it!
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aww im so sorry. hope u enjoy ur holiday hun
so sorry thinking of you xx Tina & Gabs
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huge hugs to you hun
thought I'd do an update in case anyone else goes through the same thing and wants to know what happens next...
I had my scan at the EPU today. I'm 10 weeks by LMP. The sac has grown since the last scan - it now measures 8 weeks (so it's growing, but slowly, and is now 2 weeks behind). That would explain why I feel so crap, and had to get up in the middle of the night to throw up last night... the pregnancy hormone levels are still increasing. Looks like my body thinks everything's fine, and hasn't realised that there's absolutely nothing in the sac except fluid. The sac is still at the top of the uterus, also suggesting that my body's in no hurry to get rid of it. I've had a little spotting when I wipe over the past two weeks, and then some light bleeding (well, bits of dark tissue really) over the past couple of days, but nothing I'd really describe as period-like yet, and no pain/cramping except for some twinges for ten mins on Saturday morning.
Since the sac is still high and growing, but is now over 20mm and empty, the diagnosis is now official - missed miscarriage at 10 weeks. Ah well, at least I knew it was coming. Apparently the unit sees a lot of women who are referred from their 12-week scans, when the sac has been found to be empty. That must be so much worse.
Anyway, I was given three options: natural (wait it out); medical (go in on a Saturday, take a pill, get stuck in a hospital bed, get let out on Monday); or surgical (general anaesthetic, D&C, get let out once you're conscious, assuming no complications). The midwife said there was no way of telling when a natural m/c might happen, could be this week or could be another 6 weeks plus.
I'd prefer to wait it out, but now we have the holiday booked for the end of September, I don't want to risk heavy bleeding/pain/infection happening whilst we're on a remote island, a boat ride and 2 hours-drive from the nearest hospital - and the midwife didn't think that was sensible either. Plus I feel like I've done quite a lot of waiting and I want to get on with my life now. I've been wearing liners/sanitary towels 'just in case' for the past 4+ weeks, and I want to get back to swimming, going out, and generally not worrying about when it's all going to happen.
So the decision is made. I am waiting for another couple of weeks, and have a scan booked for 3rd Sept. If all goes well, I'll have miscarried naturally by then and the scan will show the sac has passed. If the scan shows the sac's still there, I will be booked in for a D&C on the 4th, which will give me time to recover, plus time for the EPU to do a follow-up scan and take action if there's any infection or there are any 'retained products'. I'll be 12 weeks by dates by then anyway, and I think that is long enough to wait.
Well, thanks to all for their support, and I hope that if anyone else is unlucky enough to have the same thing, they'll at least find my experience useful in terms of knowing what to expect, and what decision would be best for them.
I had my scan at the EPU today. I'm 10 weeks by LMP. The sac has grown since the last scan - it now measures 8 weeks (so it's growing, but slowly, and is now 2 weeks behind). That would explain why I feel so crap, and had to get up in the middle of the night to throw up last night... the pregnancy hormone levels are still increasing. Looks like my body thinks everything's fine, and hasn't realised that there's absolutely nothing in the sac except fluid. The sac is still at the top of the uterus, also suggesting that my body's in no hurry to get rid of it. I've had a little spotting when I wipe over the past two weeks, and then some light bleeding (well, bits of dark tissue really) over the past couple of days, but nothing I'd really describe as period-like yet, and no pain/cramping except for some twinges for ten mins on Saturday morning.
Since the sac is still high and growing, but is now over 20mm and empty, the diagnosis is now official - missed miscarriage at 10 weeks. Ah well, at least I knew it was coming. Apparently the unit sees a lot of women who are referred from their 12-week scans, when the sac has been found to be empty. That must be so much worse.
Anyway, I was given three options: natural (wait it out); medical (go in on a Saturday, take a pill, get stuck in a hospital bed, get let out on Monday); or surgical (general anaesthetic, D&C, get let out once you're conscious, assuming no complications). The midwife said there was no way of telling when a natural m/c might happen, could be this week or could be another 6 weeks plus.
I'd prefer to wait it out, but now we have the holiday booked for the end of September, I don't want to risk heavy bleeding/pain/infection happening whilst we're on a remote island, a boat ride and 2 hours-drive from the nearest hospital - and the midwife didn't think that was sensible either. Plus I feel like I've done quite a lot of waiting and I want to get on with my life now. I've been wearing liners/sanitary towels 'just in case' for the past 4+ weeks, and I want to get back to swimming, going out, and generally not worrying about when it's all going to happen.
So the decision is made. I am waiting for another couple of weeks, and have a scan booked for 3rd Sept. If all goes well, I'll have miscarried naturally by then and the scan will show the sac has passed. If the scan shows the sac's still there, I will be booked in for a D&C on the 4th, which will give me time to recover, plus time for the EPU to do a follow-up scan and take action if there's any infection or there are any 'retained products'. I'll be 12 weeks by dates by then anyway, and I think that is long enough to wait.
Well, thanks to all for their support, and I hope that if anyone else is unlucky enough to have the same thing, they'll at least find my experience useful in terms of knowing what to expect, and what decision would be best for them.
