breast feed or bottle?

[beanie]

I think this forum has always been like that.

Trixipaws, here is some info about formula and how its made, I found it quite interesting clicky

 

[Redshoes]

Makes me glad I formula and breast feed I am on the fence
I love milk btw and just wanted to add how toddlers drink it and so if your LO is having the formula variety, its nothing to worry about as beanie rightly says. Formula or breast is ONE decision out of hundreds you'll make for LO as he/she grows so make your decision, be happy with it, and get on with enjoying your LO I say Very best wishes

 

[valentine]

lol i just assumed it was made out of vegetable fat or something, like margarine!

I didn't realise it was cows milk either trixi!

Xxx

 

[Tasha20]

ah I am presuming that you are referring to How Toxic Are you where they tested breastmilk and stated that it was the most toxic as a result of the chemicals we all use collecting in our bodies. From what I recall they didn't test formula as of course cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants Not to mention the fact that formula may be exposed to contaminants and the fact that most formula is given through plastic bottles and teats. Given all that I think I will take my chances with breastmilk, as everyhting we use has toxins in it, including formula, but for me the benefits of breastmilk negate that.

hahaha I sound a tad lactivist there. sorry but I just thought that it was a bit scaremongering, the programme wasto make us aware of what chemicals we expose ourselves too.

Good god channel four pee me off!

Stick this up channel 4s arse

http://halfpintpixie.wordpress.com/2007 ... stfeeding/

 

[xnicolaxcx]

i dont want to breastfeed but all these links people are popping up because of ch 4 is making bottle formula look really bad.

fair enough if you want to breast or bottle feed and YES i do agree breast is best. but what about the people who cannont for medical reasons breastfeed. they must feel awful.

when my mum had my brother she was undecided on what way to feed him. the midwife persuaded her to breastfeed cus they slagged off bottle so much to her that she didnt dare. after a few failed attempts she was told she was unable to breastfeed due to a absese on her nipple. she was mortified. the midwifes had told her how bad formular was but now told her she had to feed it to her baby. thats not right.

plus when our children are old enough we feed them sweets and chocolate and all stuff that isnt particually good for them anyway.

 

[valentine]

plus when our children are old enough we feed them sweets and chocolate and all stuff that isnt particually good for them anyway.

I abosolutely agree with what you say in the rest of your post, but disagree with the part posted above. This is about giving them what we are told is the best start in life - not about when they are older and stronger and doing less growing - babies grow so much in the first year. Also, I think its important to note that not every mum feeds their children sweets and chocolate and other bad stuff every day - maybe just as a treat.

Good luck with whichever feeding method works for you nicola and don't feel pressured either way - do what is right for you and your baby. Happy mum = happy baby!

Valentine xxx

 

[beanie]

i dont want to breastfeed but all these links people are popping up because of ch 4 is making bottle formula look really bad.

sorry but the link I posted was about how formula is made, not anti formula. I haven't made formula look bad, yes it says on there that breast milk is preferable but nowhere does it say formula is bad for you. Please don't makeout I have put links to anti formula sites as that is not true. Just because I breastfed, doesn't make me anti formula, I used it with Seren and if I am unable to breastfeed this one I will use it for this one.

 

[xnicolaxcx]

sorry im not saying you are trying to make formula look bad or saying it is bad for baby. but what the links say make formula look bad, not what you put. and i also disagree with sites which bad mouth breastfeeding.

i just think its unfair that tv programs, midwifes and doctors make people feel bad about there decison which ever one it is. aslong as you love and care for your baby it shouldnt matter how you feed it.

 

[Rosieroo]

Before I write what I am about to I better point out that Alex has a bottle of formula at night before bed and when he goes to the childminders once a week he takes about 4oz then.

but what the links say make formula look bad

If you compare what is in formula to what is in breastmilk then no, it isn't going to look very good. And I know that it doesn't make people who formula feed feel very good, but at the end of the day it's their decision in the majority of causes to do so and the information out there is a fact, it's not something that has been made up to make formula feeding mums feel bad. There are people who can't breastfeed for medical reasons, but fortunately it's a small number. I think that the figure quoted is something like 2% of mothers cannot feed due to medical reasons. Therefore potentially 98% of mums can breastfeed, it just takes determination and perseverence and SUPPORT. It's not fair of midwives, nurses, health visitors and doctors to make formula feeding mums feel bad if their breastfeeding attempts have failed due to lack of support. But also why should they be supportive of people choosing to formula feed from the very start when potentially this decision is going to cost the NHS money due to it being a fact that formula fed babies are usually prone to gastro problems and infections etc? I promise I'm not trying to cause an argument, just putting across a different opinion.
I don't like giving DS a bottle before bed because of what I know about formula, but I'm glad that I know what I do about it because I'm able to make an informed decision. I would hate to have been led to believe that it was the same as breastmilk etc and then find out later that it wasn't. Maybe that's just me, but I'm grateful that there is so much info out there so parents can make informed choices about how they bring up their children.
As I've said before it's your choice how you feed your baby, just don't be upset if you ask for an opinion about it and it's not what you want to hear. (Hope that's not to harsh).

 

[Ali K]

Mayday said the same things that I feel, it's free, once you get used to it it's hugely convenient, there's a really special bond when you're feding them too!

But it's wrong for people to make you feel bad about bottle feeding....if they push you, tell them the medication you're taking for being a psycopath interferes wth baby so you can't do it! That should shut them up!

 

[Urchin]

sorry im not saying you are trying to make formula look bad or saying it is bad for baby. but what the links say make formula look bad,

I looked at these sites and from what I see they are just telling people a few facts about formula, how you take those facts is up to you. Presumably mothers should want to know about formula anyway, I'd hate not to know what I was giving my baby.
The second site was just redressing the balance about the channel 4 show, and the first site posted by beanie wasn't anti formula in my opinion, just like any other site with nutritional information about food.

Take toxins, if you looked at all the things in the world that contain toxins, you'd never leave your house, never clean it, never use air freshener, never use regular soap etc. It's all about being realistic and making an informed choice.

 

[nathanmum]

i thought the channel 4 comment was interesting cos i would never have given it a thought. we put all sorts of stuff on and in our bodies and i never considered that this could go into breastmilk stupid i know. you think of alcohol and stuff but not shampoo makeup ect
im not saying that formula is better in that sense im just saying i never thought of it?

 

[Redshoes]

Makes me glad I formula and breast feed I am on the fence
I love milk btw and just wanted to add how toddlers drink it and so if your LO is having the formula variety, its nothing to worry about as beanie rightly says. Formula or breast is ONE decision out of hundreds you'll make for LO as he/she grows so make your decision, be happy with it, and get on with enjoying your LO I say Very best wishes

 

[valentine]

lol i just assumed it was made out of vegetable fat or something, like margarine!

I didn't realise it was cows milk either trixi!

Xxx

 

[Tasha20]

ah I am presuming that you are referring to How Toxic Are you where they tested breastmilk and stated that it was the most toxic as a result of the chemicals we all use collecting in our bodies. From what I recall they didn't test formula as of course cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants Not to mention the fact that formula may be exposed to contaminants and the fact that most formula is given through plastic bottles and teats. Given all that I think I will take my chances with breastmilk, as everyhting we use has toxins in it, including formula, but for me the benefits of breastmilk negate that.

hahaha I sound a tad lactivist there. sorry but I just thought that it was a bit scaremongering, the programme wasto make us aware of what chemicals we expose ourselves too.

Good god channel four pee me off!

Stick this up channel 4s arse

http://halfpintpixie.wordpress.com/2007 ... stfeeding/

 

[xnicolaxcx]

i dont want to breastfeed but all these links people are popping up because of ch 4 is making bottle formula look really bad.

fair enough if you want to breast or bottle feed and YES i do agree breast is best. but what about the people who cannont for medical reasons breastfeed. they must feel awful.

when my mum had my brother she was undecided on what way to feed him. the midwife persuaded her to breastfeed cus they slagged off bottle so much to her that she didnt dare. after a few failed attempts she was told she was unable to breastfeed due to a absese on her nipple. she was mortified. the midwifes had told her how bad formular was but now told her she had to feed it to her baby. thats not right.

plus when our children are old enough we feed them sweets and chocolate and all stuff that isnt particually good for them anyway.

 

[valentine]

plus when our children are old enough we feed them sweets and chocolate and all stuff that isnt particually good for them anyway.

I abosolutely agree with what you say in the rest of your post, but disagree with the part posted above. This is about giving them what we are told is the best start in life - not about when they are older and stronger and doing less growing - babies grow so much in the first year. Also, I think its important to note that not every mum feeds their children sweets and chocolate and other bad stuff every day - maybe just as a treat.

Good luck with whichever feeding method works for you nicola and don't feel pressured either way - do what is right for you and your baby. Happy mum = happy baby!

Valentine xxx

 

[beanie]

i dont want to breastfeed but all these links people are popping up because of ch 4 is making bottle formula look really bad.

sorry but the link I posted was about how formula is made, not anti formula. I haven't made formula look bad, yes it says on there that breast milk is preferable but nowhere does it say formula is bad for you. Please don't makeout I have put links to anti formula sites as that is not true. Just because I breastfed, doesn't make me anti formula, I used it with Seren and if I am unable to breastfeed this one I will use it for this one.

 

[xnicolaxcx]

sorry im not saying you are trying to make formula look bad or saying it is bad for baby. but what the links say make formula look bad, not what you put. and i also disagree with sites which bad mouth breastfeeding.

i just think its unfair that tv programs, midwifes and doctors make people feel bad about there decison which ever one it is. aslong as you love and care for your baby it shouldnt matter how you feed it.

 

[Rosieroo]

Before I write what I am about to I better point out that Alex has a bottle of formula at night before bed and when he goes to the childminders once a week he takes about 4oz then.

but what the links say make formula look bad

If you compare what is in formula to what is in breastmilk then no, it isn't going to look very good. And I know that it doesn't make people who formula feed feel very good, but at the end of the day it's their decision in the majority of causes to do so and the information out there is a fact, it's not something that has been made up to make formula feeding mums feel bad. There are people who can't breastfeed for medical reasons, but fortunately it's a small number. I think that the figure quoted is something like 2% of mothers cannot feed due to medical reasons. Therefore potentially 98% of mums can breastfeed, it just takes determination and perseverence and SUPPORT. It's not fair of midwives, nurses, health visitors and doctors to make formula feeding mums feel bad if their breastfeeding attempts have failed due to lack of support. But also why should they be supportive of people choosing to formula feed from the very start when potentially this decision is going to cost the NHS money due to it being a fact that formula fed babies are usually prone to gastro problems and infections etc? I promise I'm not trying to cause an argument, just putting across a different opinion.
I don't like giving DS a bottle before bed because of what I know about formula, but I'm glad that I know what I do about it because I'm able to make an informed decision. I would hate to have been led to believe that it was the same as breastmilk etc and then find out later that it wasn't. Maybe that's just me, but I'm grateful that there is so much info out there so parents can make informed choices about how they bring up their children.
As I've said before it's your choice how you feed your baby, just don't be upset if you ask for an opinion about it and it's not what you want to hear. (Hope that's not to harsh).