breast feed or bottle?

[beanie]

after seeing that prog otehr day makes me feel better knowing shes getting less crap inside than she would of with breast

What programme was that out of interest?

bloody hell you must have the fastest fingers ever, you posted before me and wrote more

 

[xnicolaxcx]

oooo wht was that?

 

[Rosieroo]

after seeing that prog otehr day makes me feel better knowing shes getting less crap inside than she would of with breast

What programme was that out of interest?

bloody hell you must have the fastest fingers ever, you posted before me and wrote more

Well Matt doesn't call me fingers for nothing

 

[beanie]

ah I am presuming that you are referring to How Toxic Are you where they tested breastmilk and stated that it was the most toxic as a result of the chemicals we all use collecting in our bodies. From what I recall they didn't test formula as of course cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants Not to mention the fact that formula may be exposed to contaminants and the fact that most formula is given through plastic bottles and teats. Given all that I think I will take my chances with breastmilk, as everyhting we use has toxins in it, including formula, but for me the benefits of breastmilk negate that.

hahaha I sound a tad lactivist there. sorry but I just thought that it was a bit scaremongering, the programme wasto make us aware of what chemicals we expose ourselves too.

 

[Rosieroo]

Ahhh would this be another 'responsible' programme from Channel 4? The same people that brought us Bringing up Baby with the superb (and detested by the NSPCC) Claire Verity....Why am I not surprised?
C4 really seem to have something against breastfeeding don't they? I suppose people will interpret the results of what they had to say as they will, but like you Beanie I'll take my chances with boobie juice instead of modified cows milk

 

[xnicolaxcx]

hmmmm its when people say stuff like that about cows milk that makes me panick....i dont want to feel like im depriving my baby. i dont have anything against breastfeeding. i agree breast is best but if formula was such a bad thing surley we would not be aloud to feed it to our babies?

 

[beanie]

I didn't mean to deflect from the main topic sorry, I just can't leave it when I see misleading info. To the OP, if you feel that you have made the right decision then no-one can make you feel bad.

 

[beanie]

hmmmm its when people say stuff like that about cows milk that makes me panick....i dont want to feel like im depriving my baby. i dont have anything against breastfeeding. i agree breast is best but if formula was such a bad thing surley we would not be aloud to feed it to our babies?

no formula is not a bad thing, I used it with Seren when she was tiny, and yes if it was a bad thing it would not be allowed to be sold BUT it is a substitute for breastmilk, not as good, thats the difference. This is an emotive subject, all I would say is try it and see how you go. It is easier to try and then change to formula if its not for you, then to go straight onto formula and then want to try breastfeeding.

 

[valentine]

I'm just wondering why you feel that bottlefeeding is more convienient? With breastfeeding you have the milk there, ready and at the perfect temp. No worries about making up bottles, taking them out with you, warming them up etc. You have to be dedicated either way, a baby takes a lot of dedication from the moment it's born. Bottlefeeding doesn't make you a bad mother and you're not feeding you're child crap just something that is inferior to breastmilk. It's important that you are fully aware of the implications of bottle feeding which is what your midwife is trying to do. Unfortunately the NHS doesn't have enough money to put into advertising of breastfeeding, whilst formula companies have millions of pounds to put into advertise their products (it's due to this advertising that some people wrongly believe that formula is 'as good as or almost as good as breastmilk' when in fact it's completely different). So the one of the only ways the NHS can get the message across is through midwives and Health Visitors, which can seem a bit overwhelming. They aren't allowed to promote bottlefeeding or offer advice on it, which is why they seem so against it. It's easier to give breastfeeding a try and decide to give up than go straight to bottlefeeding and potentially regret your decision.

Either way it's your decision and your baby, just make sure you're totally happy and understand your choice

If you are certain that you want to bottlefeed then you'll probably find it easier to actually contact the formula manufacturers as they all seem to have helplines etc.

Great post Kina - I think it puts across what you want to say in a non-judgemental and factual way - wish I could have written it and agree with everything you have said.

Valentine xxx

 

[xnicolaxcx]

I'm just wondering why you feel that bottlefeeding is more convienient?

i would find it more convinient because when baby sees his dad on his own for say a whole day ill have to express milk for that whole day. or he doesnt see his son unless im there to feed him. iv heard sometimes its hard to express so formular seems like a better option in my situation

plus i would be dedicated to bottle feed as it is what id prefer to do. my heart wouldnt be in breastfeeding.

 

[Rosieroo]

hmmmm its when people say stuff like that about cows milk that makes me panick....i dont want to feel like im depriving my baby. i dont have anything against breastfeeding. i agree breast is best but if formula was such a bad thing surley we would not be aloud to feed it to our babies?

I'm sorry I just get snitchy when poorly researched info re breastfeeding comes up, as breastfeeding seems to get bashed all the time. Although you might get bullied by MWs etc about breastfeeding I bet you can't tell me of a programme that's ever bashed or ridiculed bottlefeeding...
Just go with what you feel is best and what you are comfortable with, if breastfeeding isn't for you then that's that. Formula isn't a bad thing, it's just not the best thing to feed your baby. If you're still unsure then why not say to yourself that you'll try one breastfeed and see how you go from there. You don't have to have it set in stone that you're going to feed either way, see how you feel when your bub has been born. Breastfeeding seemed like an alien idea to me before I got pregnant with my DD, in fact the thought of something sucking on my breast was repugnant! It wasn't until I read up on the benefits that I decided to give it a go and after that first feed I was hooked and determined to succeed, I felt I had to prove to my bottle feeding family that I could do it.
No matter how you feed your baby as long as it's loved and cared for that's the main thing.

 

[xnicolaxcx]

No matter how you feed your baby as long as it's loved and cared for that's the main thing

i totally agree

 

[Melly+2]

i agree too

 

[enn]

ah I am presuming that you are referring to How Toxic Are you where they tested breastmilk and stated that it was the most toxic as a result of the chemicals we all use collecting in our bodies. From what I recall they didn't test formula as of course cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants Not to mention the fact that formula may be exposed to contaminants and the fact that most formula is given through plastic bottles and teats. Given all that I think I will take my chances with breastmilk, as everyhting we use has toxins in it, including formula, but for me the benefits of breastmilk negate that.

hahaha I sound a tad lactivist there. sorry but I just thought that it was a bit scaremongering, the programme wasto make us aware of what chemicals we expose ourselves too.

yea they havnt yet but maybe one day

im in an argumentative mood today so im not gonna bother. had enough with this family i live with earlier my god i nearly moved out.

anyway try what u thinks best. u can try both if u want too but if ones not for you then maybe the other is

goodluck whatever u decide

 

[trixipaws]

cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants

is formula made from cows' milk? i thought u couldnt give under 1's cows' milk

 

[Minxy]

cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants

is formula made from cows' milk? i thought u couldnt give under 1's cows' milk

What did you THINK it was?

Yes it's treated cow's milk with things added.

It's not recommended to give infants pure cows milk as it's not nutritious enough.

 

[enn]

cows milks too rich

 

[Rosieroo]

cows (who tend to be injected with all sorts of hormones, breath the air that we do, eat grass etc) are never exposed to toxins or pollutants

is formula made from cows' milk? i thought u couldnt give under 1's cows' milk

Bless you!! Formula is modified cows milk, it has things taken out and things put in to make it safer for infants to drink.

 

[trixipaws]

lol i just assumed it was made out of vegetable fat or something, like margarine!

 

[Freya]

Have nothing really new to say to OP but just wanted to say that it is nice to see people being supportive to OP even if it wasn't there original choice to bottle feed.