Really piss** of =/

[Serendipity_]

well first off u need a bank account for any money to be paid into and for a bank account u need an address - thats what u need above all else - somewhere to live.

sort the maintenance later, theres no point tryin to argue about why the dad should pay maintenace etc - he might not even b workin when babys born so DONT depend on that money for now.

Banks can have old addresses

 

[jazzmum2be]

well first off u need a bank account for any money to be paid into and for a bank account u need an address - thats what u need above all else - somewhere to live.

Iv got a bank, I got it set up when i was living with my mum.

 

[Serendipity_]

I think you need to accept you are going to be waiting a long time for this flat. There are gonna be people on that list who are in much worse positions than you, you are saying you are 'homeless' but im sorry this is not the case, you have a mum and dad , yes you may have disagreements and problems but can you honestly say that if the council turned round and told you they wouldnt help you, they would see you pregnant ohn the streets? And is your nan seriously gonna turn round in january and say 'ok now get out' regardless of whether you have somewhere to go?

I think in reality the answers to your problems dont lie in the council giving you a home, they are by you first of all comunicating better with your family and asking for more help, apologising for the past and agreeing to help out more in the future.

If you have grown up and changed as you say im sure your family would rather you live with them and help out more than be alone in a hostel.xx

She's gone through this with her mum and stepdad.

Jazz, does your Nan not want you there, or do you not want to live there as you think she shouldn't look after you???????

 

[Jade&Evie]

[quote="Jade&Evie":1dft1nag]

Im staying at my nans untill january untill I get somewhere to live.

you've got somewhere to live. and i can bet you that when they move you into the hostel or a damp bedsit you will want to be back there.

im pretty sure they dont give you a year off school for depression....

Seem to recall you saying a few pages back you were going to step out of this?

Why don't you, if you can't think of anything positive to say?

People come on here for help and support. You're all for accepting it for yourself. If you can't offer any to Jazzmum2be, stay out of the thread.

Jazz, hope things work out for you hun

well said Sue [/quote:1dft1nag]

I think I am more 'qualified' to respond to what Jazz is saying. Unlike either of you I am a single, teenage mother.

I think that she is being highly unrealistic about a) getting a flat and b) how easy a baby is to handle..

If you want me to say I think she's going to do a fine job living in a hostel with no money and no support then there you... i've said it.

But that would be a lie.

She may only be 16 but if she's old enough to get pregnant then she's old enough to see the hard facts, not the stuff they portray on Jeremy Kyle...

 

[Jen & Her Men]

I was gonna say....I think we all need to remember that Jazz is only 16 ...theres a huge difference between being 16 and being 20 so I think people should bare that in mind before being so hard on her.

I know what its like to be thrown out because of a stepdad who hates you...it aint always as easy to say that as a mum her mum should stand up to her...we all know that if you have been abused for long enough it can be hard to walk away.

I think jazz needs our support and understanding right now, not making her feel even more sh*t because her family are making decisions that we dont agree with - she cant control that.

Jazz hun Im sure it will turn out ok. At least you have your nan to go to and that gives you more time to sort out what to do. Is there anyone at school you can talk to and get some advice from? My school were really helpful towards me when I had major problems at home. There is usually a support officer or someone that may be able to offer some assistance and a friendly grown up ear.

 

[jazzmum2be]

She's gone through this with her mum and stepdad.

Jazz, does your Nan not want you there, or do you not want to live there as you think she shouldn't look after you???????[/quote]

She said shell have me for a few months. But obviously not for months on end. i wouldnt want that responsability put onto my nan

 

[Serendipity_]

She said shell have me for a few months. But obviously not for months on end. i wouldnt want that responsability put onto my nan

I understand.

So basically, until you find somewhere better, you've got a roof over your head with someone who loves you.

Sorted

 

[jazzmum2be]

I think that she is being highly unrealistic about a) getting a flat and b) how easy a baby is to handle..

Iv never said I think its going to be easy!

 

[mummykay]

since when did this become about jumpin on Jades back?

yeah ppl post on here for advice and support - the fact that u can use ur own experience in a matter is classed as support in my book - as far as I saw it was jazzmum2be sayin she was pissed off cos she didnt get a council flat to which we were discussin the pros and cons of her circumstances - dont see the necessity for ppl frownin on others statements or situations

 

[Serendipity_]

I lived with my grandparents at 18 because I was homeless. Different circumstances, my parents were living in Somerset, my dads Midlands house got repossessed, I didn't want to move to Somerset as I had my job here and boyfriend and friends. Grandparents took me in, didn't really want to, they were old, but they did it because they cared. You've got to repay your Nan back for doing what she is doing. Cook for her, she's disabled. Do her shopping, help her out. Just because you are sixteen, doesn't mean she has to look after you. You're not a child anymore, you're a reponsible adult who is going to be a mummy. It will be good practice when you have bubs.

 

[jazzmum2be]

where did i say in my first post i was pissed of 'because i ddint get a council flat'.
I was annoyed because when we called them a few weeks ago they said from today id be placed in a hostel/mother and baby unit, and i was pissed off that I wasnt.

 

[Slinky Sarah]

[quote="Slinky Sarah":3jk7dygj]

[quote="Jade&Evie":3jk7dygj]

Im staying at my nans untill january untill I get somewhere to live.

you've got somewhere to live. and i can bet you that when they move you into the hostel or a damp bedsit you will want to be back there.

im pretty sure they dont give you a year off school for depression....

Seem to recall you saying a few pages back you were going to step out of this?

Why don't you, if you can't think of anything positive to say?

People come on here for help and support. You're all for accepting it for yourself. If you can't offer any to Jazzmum2be, stay out of the thread.

Jazz, hope things work out for you hun

well said Sue [/quote:3jk7dygj]

I think I am more 'qualified' to respond to what Jazz is saying. Unlike either of you I am a single, teenage mother.

I think that she is being highly unrealistic about a) getting a flat and b) how easy a baby is to handle..

If you want me to say I think she's going to do a fine job living in a hostel with no money and no support then there you... i've said it.

But that would be a lie.

She may only be 16 but if she's old enough to get pregnant then she's old enough to see the hard facts, not the stuff they portray on Jeremy Kyle...[/quote:3jk7dygj]

And saying stuff like she shouldnt be getting maintenance from the lad is the way to go about it is it? Cos thats really gonna help with the not having money or support isnt it.

As for being more 'qualified', if you care to remember i would have been a teenage mother, and my partner just happens to have been a teenage dad facing all these problems so yeah think i can comment too. but saying stuff about school and not having support isnt exactly helping her is it. She came on here to vent about stuff. Yeah so she may be holding hopes on getting a flat quick but can you honestly say when you put your name on that council list you thought you would be waiting years? with a baby? And at the end of it you werent single when you went on that list really were you.

At the end of the day none of us are 'qualified' to comment on Jazz. She wants people to support her and help her through this.

And as for the jeremy kyle shit....whats more jermey kyle than saying over and over get a job?

 

[mummykay]

where did i say in my first post i was p*ssed of 'because i ddint get a council flat'.
I was annoyed because when we called them a few weeks ago they said from today id be placed in a hostel/mother and baby unit, and i was p*ssed off that I wasnt.

ok i apologise i got it wrong - thats what watchin toy story with 1 eye and typin does to u

 

[Serendipity_]

And as for the jeremy kyle sh*t....whats more jermey kyle than saying over and over get a job?

Saying:

"That happened to my brother"
"My cousin has that"
"My sisters done this"

 

[Jade&Evie]

And saying stuff like she shouldnt be getting maintenance from the lad is the way to go about it is it? Cos thats really gonna help with the not having money or support isnt it.

As for being more 'qualified', if you care to remember i would have been a teenage mother, and my partner just happens to have been a teenage dad facing all these problems so yeah think i can comment too. but saying stuff about school and not having support isnt exactly helping her is it. She came on here to vent about stuff. Yeah so she may be holding hopes on getting a flat quick but can you honestly say when you put your name on that council list you thought you would be waiting years? with a baby? And at the end of it you werent single when you went on that list really were you.

At the end of the day none of us are 'qualified' to comment on Jazz. She wants people to support her and help her through this.

And as for the jeremy kyle sh*t....whats more jermey kyle than saying over and over get a job?

There is a huge difference between being a teenage mother and being pregnant as a teenager. I dont want to upset you but you aren't a mother Sarah and I don't think anyone can imagine how difficult it can be at times unless they are in the situation.

If you have a problem with me I think you should PM me because I cant see what help you have been to this thread other than to jump on my back and argue the toss with what I am saying.

 

[jazzmum2be]

You say she hasnt been of help.
But you havent either
The whole point of this forum is for support and to sometimes havea moan right?
Not to assume things when you dont no my full situation.
Atleast shes been kind and caring and tryingt o make me feel better

 

[mummykay]

jazz - did u plan on havin the baby with the dad around?

 

[Laur_250]

I lived with my grandparents at 18 because I was homeless. Different circumstances, my parents were living in Somerset, my dads Midlands house got repossessed, I didn't want to move to Somerset as I had my job here and boyfriend and friends. Grandparents took me in, didn't really want to, they were old, but they did it because they cared. You've got to repay your Nan back for doing what she is doing. Cook for her, she's disabled. Do her shopping, help her out. Just because you are sixteen, doesn't mean she has to look after you. You're not a child anymore, you're a reponsible adult who is going to be a mummy. It will be good practice when you have bubs.

Very good advice here, i think if you were to help your nan out more this wouldnt be such an issue and she might enjoy having you there. I too was homeless at 15 and they sent me to live with my grandparents which im sure they wren't best pleased about, but they would never have seen me on the streets however inconvenient it was. I managed to get out the hole i was in from there and now own my own home so it also meant i was able to find my feet at my nans without relying on the system.xx

 

[Sammystar]

I think I am more 'qualified' to respond to what Jazz is saying. Unlike either of you I am a single, teenage mother.

I think that she is being highly unrealistic about a) getting a flat and b) how easy a baby is to handle..

If you want me to say I think she's going to do a fine job living in a hostel with no money and no support then there you... i've said it.

But that would be a lie.

She may only be 16 but if she's old enough to get pregnant then she's old enough to see the hard facts, not the stuff they portray on Jeremy Kyle...

Quite frankly, you are not 'more qualified' than anybody on this board.

I'm a single mum, so I know what it's all about. I probably know a damn site more than you ever will

By making statements that you think woman who go after maintenance 'disgust you'. You are not exactly going to endear yourself to other single mums. Going it alone may be 'brave', but it certainly doesn't make you more 'qualified' to comment in such a derisive fashion to others on here.

Jazz has got some hard times ahead, for sure. But she deserves to be treated with respect, the same as anybody else. Thoughtless comments and veiled insinuations about her reasons for being on here are not helpful. How would you like it if people had spoken to you like that when you were having your troubles?

This isn't about jumping on you, it's just about asking you to show some sensitivity for Jazz's situation.

 

[jazzmum2be]

jazz - did u plan on havin the baby with the dad around?

I didnt plan on having a baby at all.
Having the dad around would of been nice, but I new from his charector he isnt the type of guy to stick around if he gets girls pregnant.