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Rayoflight - I may be reading the whole thing wrong but according to the book I read my percetion of it was that her birthpartner (mum in ths case) should have picked up on the signs of self doubt phase about 30 mins before she got that way? I know it's not always possible and god knows birth is painful therefore hard to maintain the level of calm that is needed for self hypnosis but could it have been them not being in tune with each other?
In the interviews her Mum commented that her daughter had "told" her about Hypnobirthing not that she had actually studied it herself or they together - I took this to be a big part of the problem? I know you and your Hubby studied it together so was that actually a true reflection of how it is?
I find it hard to believe they would portray hypnobirthing that way on a programme they know will be watched by millions of expectant mothers who will not be put off seeing her more stressed than calm. Is it really safe to say thats a good interpretation of the skill set?
Sorry for all the questions - I am actually studying Natal Hypnotherapy so I am really interested in the theory behind it all.
Bythe way - the videos on utube are amazing should anyone want to check them out x
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It's a TV programme. They're not going to show calm and serene moments because that wouldn't make good TV!
Her mum was a bit bolshy with her. When I had those moments (baby was back to back and after 3 days no sleep you're bound to have these moments) Shaun calmly stroked my back and hair, kissed me, told me how much he loved me, made me imagine and visualise holding our baby etc. He was much more calm and went through all the breathing techniques again to get me back into my 'birthing body' as they call it. My mum, even though she did the HB course with us too was like the mum on the screen at points. Shaun got annoyed and told her to go get some rest when she was like that and she agreed she wasn't helping because she too had been up for 3 days and was exhausted.
My friend did the course at the same time and had her first baby a month ago. 2.5 hr labour from the first contraction, just gas & air at pushing stage and that was it. No tears, no stitches, no problem. This was a woman who, even up until the day before birth said she wasn't so sure about HB and if she needed the drugs she was going to damn well have them! Speak to her now though and she is in awe of it and how it helped her believe and realise what her body and mind were capable of.
For some people it's pethadine, for some people it's epidural, for some people it's gas and air, for some is hypnobirthing. Look at it like another form of pain management if you will. I just know I couldn't have done without it.
Her mum was a bit bolshy with her. When I had those moments (baby was back to back and after 3 days no sleep you're bound to have these moments) Shaun calmly stroked my back and hair, kissed me, told me how much he loved me, made me imagine and visualise holding our baby etc. He was much more calm and went through all the breathing techniques again to get me back into my 'birthing body' as they call it. My mum, even though she did the HB course with us too was like the mum on the screen at points. Shaun got annoyed and told her to go get some rest when she was like that and she agreed she wasn't helping because she too had been up for 3 days and was exhausted.
My friend did the course at the same time and had her first baby a month ago. 2.5 hr labour from the first contraction, just gas & air at pushing stage and that was it. No tears, no stitches, no problem. This was a woman who, even up until the day before birth said she wasn't so sure about HB and if she needed the drugs she was going to damn well have them! Speak to her now though and she is in awe of it and how it helped her believe and realise what her body and mind were capable of.
For some people it's pethadine, for some people it's epidural, for some people it's gas and air, for some is hypnobirthing. Look at it like another form of pain management if you will. I just know I couldn't have done without it.
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The mother didnt seem to fully understand what she doing. She did say she read the book but only picked out the things she found usefull.
Also she kept saying its just your tummy stretching erm no its tightening.
Also she kept saying its just your tummy stretching erm no its tightening.
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OK I watched this on 4oD. OMG I am having my first, and I wish I almost went into birthing ignorant. it scared me very much. I too thought hypnobirthing was to help you with a calm birth. I am not looking forward to the birthing - well the end when I get to hold our baby..........argh.....
Who is looking at hypnobirthing for their birthplan?
Who is looking at hypnobirthing for their birthplan?
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True...I never thought of it from the "making good TV point of View"
You are an extremely lucky lady to have such an intuitive husband - I can only hope Neil will be the same. I have read your birth story and posts on HB with interest everytime I see them lol Such a long labour and yet still such a positive experience for you.
Like your friend, alot of the story's I have been reading on Self hypnosis in birth have woman saying that same thing - they were not sure leading up to the birth if it had done them any good yet have a calm and relaxed birth and come the end of it they know it helped them achieve it.
Having already experienced labour and knowing I did not like the feeling gas and air gives me and not wanting any other pain relief unless competely necessary I find this form of pain relief fascinating.
Erimela - I will be practicing the UK equvalent and have been doing so for the past month or so.
You are an extremely lucky lady to have such an intuitive husband - I can only hope Neil will be the same. I have read your birth story and posts on HB with interest everytime I see them lol Such a long labour and yet still such a positive experience for you.
Like your friend, alot of the story's I have been reading on Self hypnosis in birth have woman saying that same thing - they were not sure leading up to the birth if it had done them any good yet have a calm and relaxed birth and come the end of it they know it helped them achieve it.
Having already experienced labour and knowing I did not like the feeling gas and air gives me and not wanting any other pain relief unless competely necessary I find this form of pain relief fascinating.
Erimela - I will be practicing the UK equvalent and have been doing so for the past month or so.
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Me ! I'm excited about it
can anyone recommend where to start . I'm at a loss
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I'm having my 1st and i'm not even planning to write a birthing plan. How can I know what i'd like to happen or not to happen if i've never done it before? I have no idea what to expect during labour so i'm planning to just go with the flow and see what happens. The only thing i'd like is that nobody dresses my Son except for me or my OH (not even his nappy). That request would fit on a post it so i'm just going to tell them when I get there.
I love one born every minute but like Ray of light says we don't get to see the whole labour and it is technically on tv to 'entertain' an audience so they'll only show the 'best' bits anyway.
Having said that I found the girl in with the lady whos OH was in prision hilarious! She looked like she'd just dragged herself out of bed!! x
I love one born every minute but like Ray of light says we don't get to see the whole labour and it is technically on tv to 'entertain' an audience so they'll only show the 'best' bits anyway.
Having said that I found the girl in with the lady whos OH was in prision hilarious! She looked like she'd just dragged herself out of bed!! x
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The young girl did really well the first one xxx
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i didnt have a plan first time round for the exact same reason,
however i feel that the midwifes ect took this as ''do what they want'' and treated me like i had no idea and was just a naive first time mum (even tho i knew there was summat not right n my baby was brow position) midwife sayin things like i dont have a high pain fresh hold whilst ive been in labor 2 days an got to 9 cm,............... i found it really dis heartening n annoying, most brow babys end in section as there head at that position just wont fit!!!
this time round im well clued up, and all im going to put in is to hopefully have a vbac and if any signs of stress or the labor not progressing then go straight for section after consulting my self first, ill be putting in i dont want any intervention in ways of forceps or vacuum ect
drugs wise ill leave blank as in my opinion you just don't no how its going to go, you get no guarantees in labor
Who is looking at hypnobirthing for their birthplan?[/QUOTE]
Me ! I'm excited about it can anyone recommend where to start . I'm at a loss[/QUOTE]
Tinytoes - I found these two websites helpful
http://www.optimumsuccess.co.uk
www.hypnobirthing.co.uk/
You can then find a practitioner near you. Good luck! I too am looking into hypno birthing. Let me know how you get on.
Me ! I'm excited about it
can anyone recommend where to start . I'm at a loss[/QUOTE]Tinytoes - I found these two websites helpful
http://www.optimumsuccess.co.uk
www.hypnobirthing.co.uk/
You can then find a practitioner near you. Good luck! I too am looking into hypno birthing. Let me know how you get on.
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Because we wanted a home birth, I had 5 different midwives for the first 2 days at home (1 or 2 of them with us at any one time). They had never been to a hypnobirthing couple before. All of them admitted it was a 'breath of fresh air' to be with people who fully knew what was happening within their body. Mum was 'midwife manager' and stayed in te front room with them whilst I was in the pool in the dining room with Shaun.
These midwives had no other patients to see, they just sat with my mum drinking tea, monitoring me occasionally and one in particular spent a good 30+ hours with us.
This intimate situation meant we really got to know them. They told us lots of funny stories of the things women come out with and the silly things they have to explain all the time. They said it drives them crazy that women go into this experience blind without researching anything and because they do this job day in day out they often forget that everything needs explaining in laymans terms to some.
What we found is that because we'd done HB we'd been educated about birth and in particular the anatomy and physiology of it - why our bodies do what they do. Pretty much like kids being tested by parents, sharing our knowledge with the midwives they were all like "ooh well done! Someone's done their homework!/yes you're right/great that you know this" etc. They really liked this and therefore I found we were really treated with respect all round - Shaun in particular (Dads can get really pushed out during labour).
You hear so many horror stories of horrid midwives, power hungry and with no patience. If you get clued up enough you do feel more empowered and also like you can stand up for yourself should you start to feel bullied/neglected/not listened to etc.
Birth is a huge thing. As a women it's frightening and scary. Yes loads of women do it every day and it's easy to say you'll put the blinkers on and go with the flow but personally, for me, I had to know exactly what to expect and all things that could happen.
You wouldn't go into heart surgery without discussing all options, scenarios etc with your doctor. You'd sit on google for days and want to know exactly what was going to happen and why. (well i know i would!). Why therefore should birth be any different?
If you educate yourself and your partner to know what to expect, you're less likely to be petrified and fearful and it's that fear that causes and adds to the pain. (Google fear-tension-pain syndrome).
Anyways, this is loooooong. Its late. Sorry. I hope I'm making sense. Im just passionate about this because I know first hand that it works. My sister is still traumatised 8 months after giving birth. She is still having counselling. I wanted to avoid that. I did. I loved my birth, felt in control at all times and don't feel 'robbed of it' like my sister does.
Peace and love! Someone get me a coffee...
Gem x
These midwives had no other patients to see, they just sat with my mum drinking tea, monitoring me occasionally and one in particular spent a good 30+ hours with us.
This intimate situation meant we really got to know them. They told us lots of funny stories of the things women come out with and the silly things they have to explain all the time. They said it drives them crazy that women go into this experience blind without researching anything and because they do this job day in day out they often forget that everything needs explaining in laymans terms to some.
What we found is that because we'd done HB we'd been educated about birth and in particular the anatomy and physiology of it - why our bodies do what they do. Pretty much like kids being tested by parents, sharing our knowledge with the midwives they were all like "ooh well done! Someone's done their homework!/yes you're right/great that you know this" etc. They really liked this and therefore I found we were really treated with respect all round - Shaun in particular (Dads can get really pushed out during labour).
You hear so many horror stories of horrid midwives, power hungry and with no patience. If you get clued up enough you do feel more empowered and also like you can stand up for yourself should you start to feel bullied/neglected/not listened to etc.
Birth is a huge thing. As a women it's frightening and scary. Yes loads of women do it every day and it's easy to say you'll put the blinkers on and go with the flow but personally, for me, I had to know exactly what to expect and all things that could happen.
You wouldn't go into heart surgery without discussing all options, scenarios etc with your doctor. You'd sit on google for days and want to know exactly what was going to happen and why. (well i know i would!). Why therefore should birth be any different?
If you educate yourself and your partner to know what to expect, you're less likely to be petrified and fearful and it's that fear that causes and adds to the pain. (Google fear-tension-pain syndrome).
Anyways, this is loooooong. Its late. Sorry. I hope I'm making sense. Im just passionate about this because I know first hand that it works. My sister is still traumatised 8 months after giving birth. She is still having counselling. I wanted to avoid that. I did. I loved my birth, felt in control at all times and don't feel 'robbed of it' like my sister does.
Peace and love! Someone get me a coffee...
Gem x
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I didnt have a HB but just used gas and stayed pretty calm throughout. But I have to say, I don't think HB is for everyone, some people just won't be able to cope doing it that way and there's nothing wrong with that either.
It will still hurt and there's no formula to it really, I just think it depends on or mental strength and determination in the end. What I mean is, there is no certainty that because you planned for a HB you will have one, you might change your mind at the time.
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Oh I totally agree . I hit a point where I sort of lost it and despite me saying i didnt want an epidural . I was advised to have one . I was devastated as it wasn't in my "plan" . So what I would say to people is try be open minded about accepting help if you need it rather than to feel like you have failed . My main reason for wanting to learn more abut HB is because im very anxious as a result of my last birth and want to learn some techniques for staying calm.
