Thanks, but then what do you do about the winding? I think he needs to go to bed a bit earlier as when I was feeding him his bottle last night at 8.30 he just goes to sleep and it's really hard to wake him to finish it and I cannot get any wind up when he goes like that ! I will have to try the dream feed just don't want him to wake and think its time to play, I always keep the room near enough pitch black just have a night light on he woke at around 4:30 last night which seems to be the same time every night but Iv increased his bottles to 6oz seems like when he's waking he has trapped wind and needs to pump but I can't get it out for him I try to wind the only thing that settles him is a bottle. Xx