The Ipswich killings

[Flame]

I do agree that the fact it is illegal could attract people aswell and you are probably right about protecting people from std's but i still think it all seems to make it sound like it is ok to do if it is leglised. I dont know anything about escort agencies and those things so i just assumed there was something legal about them.

I think i have gone off on one about it a bit to much maybe, its just something that disgusts me and it shouldnt be done legally or illegally, unfortunately there isnt anything i can do about it.

 

[budge]

im glad the girl was found safe and well.

lets hope no more bodies are found.

 

[beanie]

I feel pretty strongly about it to. Prostitution is part of society, and I would say a pretty important one too. If nothing else it allows those unfortunate people who are not able to find a normal sex partner to engage. They provide a service. However sadly this means they get treated like lower class citizens. The rates of rape and murder are higher for this group of women then any other, being raped, on the average, eight to ten times per year.

62% reported having been raped in prostitution. 73% reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution. 72% were currently or formerly homeless. 92% stated that they wanted to escape prostitution immediately. (Melissa Farley, Isin Baral, Merab Kiremire, Ufuk Sezgin, "Prostitution in Five Countries: Violence and Posttraumatic Stress Disorder" (1998) Feminism & Psychology 8 (4): 405-426)

I just wish the media would see them as people.

 

[Gaby]

I'm only about 20miles away from ipswich. I've always know ipswich has women working as prostitutes, but i can't believe someone's murdering them for that. Apparently they're being killed at a faster rate than the yorkshire murders which is scary. I also hate that the news just keeps refering to them as prostitutes, but yesterday and today i've heard the most recent two refered to by name, so at least they're getting a little more respect. The poor families though. I wouldn't be surprised if most women stop going out after dark. I feel aweful for the parents who not only found out their daughter is dead but that they were prositutes for a living. Double blow.


I agree with beanie. As much as i disagree with protituion, without it they'd probably be a lot more rapes around.

Women have sold themselves in every culture through history. And legalising it would probably make it safer for the women, because they could work in designated buildings and not have to get into the back of some strangers car.

In fact, in history selling your body would make you a Courtesan in a rich society. It was an art and a skill. It just happens that prositutes are skilled in something other than computers or office work.

Yeah, ok, i'm just babbling now. I'm not saying protitusion is right but i'm not saying its wrong either.

 

[gingerpig]

Just heard that one of the women Annelie I think, was pregnant

 

[Minime]

Anneli

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 57,00.html

 

[gingerpig]

Thanks, have edited my post so her name is right.

 

[kirlykird]

I don't agree with prostitution and don't know where I stand on the legalise it thing.

The only thing that I do know is that there are some very strange people out there.... if this option is not available to them I would fear more sex attacks and rapes as these people would have nowhere to vent their frustration but that's just my opinion.

I certainly wouldn't say that I agree with it and I hope that none of my friends or myslef end up down that route but I don't think a lot of women do this out of choice.

Legalised or not, I still think most men wouldn't want to do it and if I found that my OH did then I would certainly realise that he's not the man for me.

As for the above, it's so sad about the pregnant lady

 

[cassi]

anyone that say someone deserves to die is sick and must think they are a very special person!

also its legal to go to a club and have a one night stand with someone, and its free so whats the difference? if prostitution was made legal or kept illegal if a man wants to pay for sex he will, regardless, but there is the risk of been copped by the police? ok they will just go out, pull and have a one night stand.

 

[BubbleOne]

I am all for it being legalised if it is 'legal' in designated areas so that these girls can look out for eachother and the police etc know where they are opperating. Maybe provide them with 'safe houses' to use on the outskirts of big cities. Of course nobody wants one of these in their area but nobody wants working girls murdered in their area either. If they could meet the men in a safe environment then there would be no need for them to get in the cars. The minute they get in a strangers car they are risking their lives.

Of course in and ideal world working girls wouldn't exist but these people are desperate, many have children to feed, habbits to maintain etc. I don't agree with it as I believe there are other ways but some people don't see that so think it's there only way out.

I send out huge sympathy for these poor girls and their families.

 

[gingerpig]

The police have arrested someone: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6189409.stm

 

[budge]

thats good!

 

[Tara & Liam]

the strange thing is that after the first couple of girls had been murdered then the others still went out to go prostituting knowing that there was a maniac on the loose. Drug addiction overtook their need for safety. It is really scarey.

 

[Lyndsey]

I feel very sorry for Prostitutes - alot of them think that this is the only way that they can get money. Not all of them are hooked on drugs. Some are in very abusive relationships and are forced onto the streets by partners or brothers.. pimps etc. Imagine having to make the decision to go out on the streets... it can't be an easy one to make so I imagine a lot of thought goes into it and there must be some sort of reason behind it..... .also once they have made £1000 of pounds in a few days they get hooked on that after all our government doesn't seem to want to look after its citizens.... (don't get me started on that one!)

When we sit at home in our nice houses going on the internet we cannot possibly judge these poor women. Thye have their reasons for doing this and shoul not be made to feel like second class citizens and they certainly don't deserve to die..... the post about people going to a nightclub and having one night stands.... if you go out and have drinks bought for you all night and then have sex isn't this like prostitution?? You have been paid with drinks for a service you have given?!

What needs to happen is these women need to be educated in how to protect themselves and how to escape from this life if thats what they choose. Yes some of them are drugged up to the eyeballs and only do it for the money but thats not always the case. If prostitution was made legal then yes it could help to eradicate pimps and help to stem the transmission of disease but you would still get people abusing the system.

This post has been very interesting with some very different comments from people. For me it has shown me that there are a lot of people sitting in glass houses and they are throwing stones.....

I am not saying that I think prostitution is 100% ok, what I am saying is that it will go on no matter what and we are narrow minded if we think we can stop it....what needs to happen is these girls need to be educated and given help if they want it.

You never truly know whats going on in another persons life therfore you cannot judge them.....

 

[Sarah&Braydon]

thank god they have arrested someone just hope they got the rite Basta*d

 

[glitzyglamgirl]

Very wise words Lyndsey, I couldnt agree more

Its like so many other things - teenage pregnancy, youths drinking on street corners, all these social problems that are only having the symptoms dealt with and not the cause. Education is the most vital aspect in all of this I think, along with support networks and safety.

 

[Amanda]

if you go out and have drinks bought for you all night and then have sex isn't this like prostitution?? You have been paid with drinks for a service you have given?!

You beat me to it Lyndsey! I was going to say exactly the same thing.

I haven't seen this post until now, and I am astounded at the small-minded opinions of some people on here! Prostitution is the oldest occupation in the world, and as long as there are people around willing to pay, there will be people willing to sell. Note I am not saying MEN that pay and WOMEN who sell, as it can and does go all ways. These people provide a service that the buyers either cannot get elsewhere, or prefers to pay for it. There is nothing wrong with it at all. As Gaby has pointed out, these women could have been Courtesans in another time, and it was an art and a skill. Have you not seen the film Moulin Rouge??? And who can forget Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman?? We have all watched and loved these films, and then now some people feel they can judge the people who do this.

I myself went on a hen weekend to Amsterdam 3 years ago, and we went to the Red Light District. We actually ended up in the Banana Bar, and were talking to some of the 'working ladies' there. They are articulate, intelligent, and gorgeous women. They have skills I don't have (or wouldn't want to! )- I still have an autographed beermat from one of them, and she didn't hold the pen in her hand!! These women can earn more in a night than I can in a month, and it's all legal and regulised there. They all pay their taxes and live completely normal lives. There is nothing cloak and dagger about it. And there is no shame in a man going to use their services there either.

Hopefully these awful killings will wake the government up finally. Prositution will never ever go away, and it's about time they realised this and legalised it.

Oh, and they need to hang the b***ard that they've got if he killed these poor women.

 

[Sarah&Braydon]

amanda hanging is to nice

 

[mummykay]

cutting his willy off with a spoon sounds more painfulthan hanging

 

[Sarah&Braydon]

stick him on a lamp post Nakered and let the public tortue him