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The Ipswich killings

im sorry and i know this seems horrible wen the first two went missing i thought they were prob just drugged up and in some grungy bedsit or summit but since all theses girls have been found dead i think no one can say they deserve to die how would u feel if that was ur daughter who had just died and had people saying she deserved to die
 
budge said:
ifyou took prostitutes off the street no woman would be safe at all.

I totaly agree with that, I even saw on the news that they are concidering leaglising mini brothels like in Amsterdam to get them off the streets.

It will never stop and has been around for years, the women need safe environments to do it from, the thing that scares me even more is that to women who have been made to come off the street now do door to door :shock: so once their in that house, lord knows what will happen to them :?
 
it is the longest running occupation in the UK - it's always going to be around, whether it's legal or not.

I dont agree with it one bit, but they must have been in some desprit situation to go there in the first place. You can never say never!! Life doesn't always go to plan. I'm sure all these girls didn't dream of doing that job when they were younger - unfort it's the world we live in!
Nobody deserves to get killed no matter what age, size, race you are... it's just wrong!!

S. xx
 
Tasha20 said:
It will never stop and has been around for years

I think I've read before that its the oldest occupation :think:

Whether you agree with it or not, it will happen. What these girls need are safe, controlled and regulated environments to 'conduct their business'. Not only could it be taxed, but the girls could be regularly tested to control the spread of STD's and drug counselling to actually help them.
 
Misslarue said:
Tasha20 said:
It will never stop and has been around for years

I think I've read before that its the oldest occupation :think:

Whether you agree with it or not, it will happen. What these girls need are safe, controlled and regulated environments to 'conduct their business'. Not only could it be taxed, but the girls could be regularly tested to control the spread of STD's and drug counselling to actually help them.

Absolutely, 100% with you on that one. :clap:
 
Misslarue said:
I think I've read before that its the oldest occupation :think:

It's certianly one of the oldest recorded professions, for example, Ishtar who was the most important goddess in Mesopotamia was a prostitute. There was no shame involved then... Here's a light-hearted look at it: http://www.wondersmith.com/heroes/goddess.htm

Misslarue said:
Whether you agree with it or not, it will happen. What these girls need are safe, controlled and regulated environments to 'conduct their business'. Not only could it be taxed, but the girls could be regularly tested to control the spread of STD's and drug counselling to actually help them.

I agree, if it could be legalised it would be a great thing, but it may loose some of it's appeal. It would be much better too for those living in residential areas where these women work - they wouldn't be exposed to the crime and harassments that often accompany the areas where the women are.
 
Well at the end of the day not matter what they were, the were human, and if these guys are killing people they should be caught, obviously they have a hatred towards women, which means nobody is safe until their caught XkelX
 
its not a nice proffesion but these girls have had a different life an awful life some abused a lot mistreated and now dead it is not fair to talk ill of a dead person i knew someone who went in that direction i lived in a hostel with herion addicts and they dont like what they do i dont like what they do but they are people just the same as all of us i didnt go down that path but my life was not very good as a child and i know these girls whatever they do do not deserve to die and another thing the proffession of prostitution would not be around if it werent for the drug dealers and the men who pay for sex these girls are not all to blame at all they are feeding there addictions or even self abusing cause its all they know they arent hurting anyone else but themselves but this man/men is and he needs to be stopped hes the scum not them.
 
Londoner Claire said:
They shouldn't sell their bodies then it wouldn't happen would it. :shakehead:

:shock: Very small minded comment!!! :evil:

Lets hope you nothing so bad happens to you claire that u have to stoop that low!

I agree these girls are silly for getting hooked on drugs etc and having to sell there bodies but to say they deserve to die is unbelieveble

xxx
 
Iagree, if it could be legalised it would be a great thing,

I dont understand how people keep saying that legalising prostitution would be a good thing.

Would you mind your OH, Partner, Husband or whatever going out and paying for sex with someone else? After all it is legal so why shouldnt they?

There are legal ways of doing it, i think they are called escort agencies or there are online places you can go to if they are really desperate to pay for it, where they are all screened for stds and dont do drugs.

At the end of the day my opinion is none of it should be legal, not prostitutes, escort agencies, or anything like that, in my mind it seems to say it is ok for people to go out and cheat on their partners with these people and that isnt right.

I dont think these girls deserved to die though.
 
Flame said:
Would you mind your OH, Partner, Husband or whatever going out and paying for sex with someone else? After all it is legal so why shouldnt they?

I would like to think my OH wouldnt do it cos he loves me not cos its illegal :?

xxxx
 
i dunno where i stand with the whole thing of making it legal but i just feel sorry for the 5 dead girls

and thank god that found the last one
 
I agree, but unfortunately some do and the fact that it is illegal at the moment is more likely to put men off doing it than if it was legal.
 
Flame said:
Iagree, if it could be legalised it would be a great thing,

I dont understand how people keep saying that legalising prostitution would be a good thing.

Would you mind your OH, Partner, Husband or whatever going out and paying for sex with someone else? After all it is legal so why shouldnt they?

There are legal ways of doing it, i think they are called escort agencies or there are online places you can go to if they are really desperate to pay for it, where they are all screened for stds and dont do drugs.

At the end of the day my opinion is none of it should be legal, not prostitutes, escort agencies, or anything like that, in my mind it seems to say it is ok for people to go out and cheat on their partners with these people and that isnt right.

I dont think these girls deserved to die though.

I don't see how it being legal sends out the message that its ok. I mean it is legal for a man to sleep with a girl above 16 if she consents yet I don't see many men saying well its legal so I may as well do it. If your partner is the kind of guy who will pay a woman to have sex with him when he is in a relationship then no law is going to change that I'm afraid. I have no worries that my OH is going to go to a prostitute if its made legal, if I did then I would have to examine my relationship.

Legalising prostitution may be good as it could provide a safe place for women to work in, and help them if they need it. It may also get rid of a lot of the violence that goes with it.
 
beanie said:
I don't see how it being legal sends out the message that its ok. I mean it is legal for a man to sleep with a girl above 16 if she consents yet I don't see many men saying well its legal so I may as well do it. If your partner is the kind of guy who will pay a woman to have sex with him when he is in a relationship then no law is going to change that I'm afraid. I have no worries that my OH is going to go to a prostitute if its made legal, if I did then I would have to examine my relationship.

Legalising prostitution may be good as it could provide a safe place for women to work in, and help them if they need it. It may also get rid of a lot of the violence that goes with it.


:clap: Agree
 
I dont think that its a case of "oh well may as well do it cause its legal", but it does make it easier for them to do it, for example if a man gets caught with a prostitute at the moment there is a big possibility that his partner will find out when the police bring him home and want to see him again, but if it is legalised their partner isnt going to find out at all therefore making it easier.

And i dont think anyone likes to believe that their partner is likely to do it but the sad fact is that some do and chances are you might never know.

This is just my opinion, but as you can maybe tell i feel pretty strongly about it.
 
Fair enough Flame. Do you not think also the fact that it is illegal could attract some people? Also if it were legalised, it could actually help protect the partners at home from STD's etc - if it were properly regulated etc.

You mentioned escort agencies - these actually operate just inside the law and don't specifically offer sex, in the same way as massage palours etc do. They are effectively reliant upon a legal loophole, as they don't specifically office their service users sex, but offer them escorts for a period of time, it's up to the client and escort what happens in that time. As the agencies don't have a specific responsibility to their clients, some may test for STD's and drug problems, it's actually not in their interests to do so, so I feel it's unlikely that all of them self-regulate in this way.

I'm also not certain that all men are brought home as soon as they are found kerb-crawling - I think it's more likely that they receive a road-side caution. If these mount up, I think they often receive a more official charge, which is when the partner can often find out whats going on as it often takes the form of a fine.

Of course I would be horrified if my husband paid for sex with someone else, but then I'd be horrified if he had sex with anyone else! To be fair he's away on business atm, and he could be having sex with anyone lol. In that case it's a matter of trust between us, and whether he broke that trust with a "working" woman or a non- "working" one would still hurt. I cant honestly imagine one would hurt less than the other, just differently.

From what little I know, I think that paying for sex is thought to be as compulsive as actually seeking/getting sex. In that case it can be all about the objectifying of women/men (depending on taste!) as a sexual commodity to be used, which I find uncomfortable. To be completely honest, I find the idea of anyone wanting to sell themselves in this way quite sad, I cant understand how someone would want to objectify themselves in the same way.
 

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