PUPD vs CC

[NICCI]

I think i need to try one of these, but which one should i try!!
jacks sleep pattern is deteriating fast! he has a loose routine but i need to establish a better one, he usually just falls asleep on the couch and then we take him up and he goes down in his cot about ten (i know this is not good!!)
me and OH dont have anytime to ourselves at all, and OH admitted last night that he missed this
so the plan is to tkae jack up at 8 feed him and put him down! sounds so simple!!

could somebody explain the 2 methods please
and id love to hear any success stories for encouragement
thank u xxxxx

 

[Sherlock]

Your LO is way too young for CC. He won't have any understanding and it will just be distressing. CC is intended for older children from about 18 months on.

I am not a fan of the PUPD method much either. But your LO is an ok age to try it.

We did our own thing and tried a few things. I'll list them for you, don't have time for a full reply

Started a regular bedtime routine, even if I didn't bath LO he'd get ready for bed and we'd do the same thing every evening from about 7pm onwards.

Got him ready for bed, had a calm down and unwind time with cuddles on the bed, gently talking to him. Turned out main lights for this and just had a dim bedroom light. Put on mobile and let it play. Lay with LO in bed and fed him till he either came off my boob or fell asleep.

Would then transfer him to his cot and leave the mobile going. Gave him a muslin to hold/cuddle up with.

Kept it dark, stayed nearby and didn't make eye contact, talk to him etc. Stayed head end of the cot. Once LO settled I'd leave the room quietly. He would go down into cot either awake or asleep and didn't mind either.

If he stirred awake or became unsettled one of us would go back in, leave lights off, stroke his head, gently sing to him but no eye contact. Put mobile back on and then wait till settled again and then leave.

We never did the PUPD method for this and our LO was always happy to settle himself at bedtime.

With your son you are going to have to slowly bring his bedtime forward, you can't jump from 10pm to 8pm overnight. I'd say bring it foward 15 minutes or so every few nights till you reach a time more suitable. We went for 8pm and our LO within about 4 weeks was ready for bed by 7pm and so moved his own bedtime forward an hour.

Whatever you do, keep the same 'routine' though. If you put him in his sleepsuit an hour before he goes to bed, stick with this as you bring it forward. If you get him ready at 7pm and then let him fall asleep on the sofa stick with 7pm, but then start taking him to his cot 15 minutes earlier.

Try to get him used to his cot in the daytime for naps. Make it relaxed so he doesn't get upset and associate going into it with crying and upset.

You want to move things by 2 hours, so expect this to take up to 3-4 weeks to achieve with moving bedtime forward bit by bit. It gives your LO a chance to adjust slowly and for you both to hopefully have as little stress doing so also.

 

[loz]

Does he fall asleep at 10 or before?

I was told you can use these methods at 6 months by the sleep clinic in our area. TBH, I would try and establish a routine with him first - bath, feed, mobile etc and see how he gets on.

I found Emma's sleep pattern changed dramatically at 5.5 months, she had slept through and then started waking through the night, and nothing I did helped - i think it was teething and weaning that had an effect. At 6 months I tried cc but it didnt work with her. We then tried it again at 8 months and it did work and now at 9 months she usually cries for a little while, I then pick her up and comfort her and then put her down and she usually goes to sleep.
You might find that you naturally slot into a pattern.

 

[NICCI]

thank you so much for replying xx

in the end i didnt need to use any method!
we went upstairs with jack at 7.30 and changed his bum and put his grow bag on. we then fed him and put him in his cot (making sure he was awake)
we left him and from the sounds on the monitor he was asleep within mins!
then we had the WORST night ever! im keeping a sleep diary at the mo!!

went into cot at 8.00
woke at 10.30
fed at 10.45
woke at 1.15
woke at 2.10
fed at 2.15
back in cot at 2.45
woke at 4.10
woke at 5 and had a feed
woke at 7 had a feed and we got up at 7.30

i dont know what im doing wrong
when he wakes in the night i stroke his head and dont speak, give him his dummy or his comforter!
he doesnt nap after 5pm and he has 2-3 hours durinmg the day

can anyone tell me what im doing wrong!

 

[Sherlock]

You are not doing anything wrong.

Your baby is just going to need time to adjust to sleeping longer at night. Some babies seem to sleep longer overnight from early on, but even those can change their sleep pattern and throw things into chaos.

I'd keep doing what you are doing, be patient and he'll sort himself out slowly.

 

[lea m]

You are not doing anything wrong.

Your baby is just going to need time to adjust to sleeping longer at night. Some babies seem to sleep longer overnight from early on, but even those can change their sleep pattern and throw things into chaos.

I'd keep doing what you are doing, be patient and he'll sort himself out slowly.

What Sherlock said!
Your not doing anything wrong hun!