Has anyone experienced this? PLEASE HELP!

[skatty]

Please can anyone let me know if their babies have experienced this. Leorah screams and has terrible pain whenever she poos. Its so bad that she claws her face and bit down so hard on her arm that she has two purple bruises from her gums.

We went to see the doc and she said she's not worried as she will probably grow out of it by 3 months though we have to add 3 weeks because she was early. She told us to go to the paediatric ward at the hospital though so we did and they wanted us in for observation for the night. Well what was the point? We were in a private room and nobody observed anything! The next day a doc came around whilst Leorah was screaming, I explained it had been going on for 55 mins on and off and I'd had to change her nappy 3 times. All they keep doing is feeling her stomach and have a listen to her through the stethoscope. I have explained that its not wind its actually the motion of trying to poo thats causing the pain but they don't listen! I am so upset, I hate seeing my daughter suffer like this. She can be fast asleep and then just be shrieking the next minute in pain and it goes on until she's managed to poo. They wanted us in for another night and said that I was to ring the bell everytime it happened and I said what so someone can watch and then nothing be done and they said nothing! I bought her back home where she can be cosy and we now have to see another doc on Tuesday. If they examined her thoroughly and then said we just have to wait it out I could accept it but noone is listening to what the problem is, they are just presuming its wind.

After the problems with medical staff not listening when I had OC in my pregnancy too I just feel so disillusioned with the system over here, its meant to be great but I prefer the NHS any day. When I bled at 19 weeks when in London the delivery ward was really busy and understaffed but they still examined me and scanned me to make sure all was ok. I am so upset I just feel like getting on a plane to England.

Please let me know if this is common because then maybe I can accept it but at the moment its breaking my heart to see my little baby suffer and not be able to do anything. I'm sorry its so long

 

[Dee1985]

i have not had experience with this. but poor you and Leorah sounds terrible. i can totaly agree with you about how frustrating it can be when the medical staff just dont listen it really drives me mad where i am close to killing my doc some times. its so hard to see LO in pain

just persist hun dont give up. make them realise she is in pain. you are with her 24/7 you no some thing is wronmg and its not wind. poor lil Leorah hope you get answers soon x x x

 

[skatty]

Thanks for your support and quick reply Dionne

I forgot to add what further infurated me was their suggestion for me to feed her everytime she cries I explained that this just makes her sick and after a minute she just uses me as a dummy and they said if it settles her i should do this! So I am destined to have no life, get my boob out everytime Leorah cries and have a big, fat overfed baby! No wonder the babies are so big in Denmark if tghis is what Mums are told to do !!

 

[Amanda]

Aww hun, it's so hard watching our LO's in pain.

Have you tried giving Leorah a little juice to help loosen her? My hv suggested this with Charlie, and it worked. Not baby juice, but just ordinary pure fruit juice really watered down with cooled boiled water. 1 part juice to 6 parts water at least. Charlie really likes it.

 

[Melanie]

Katt i rang my friend at home for you, she is a childrens RGN.

She suggested the same thing as Tankett with the juice, She said pure apple juice works best watered down.

She also asked me if any doctor had actually checked Leorah's anus? She said that sometimes this sort of thing can be a muscle problem (as in they arent giving enough when she is pooing and thats what is hurting). It could be something to mention to the dr next time you see him.

Give Leorah i big hug from me and Thea hun, i really hope this gets sorted soon.

 

[skatty]

Tankett and Melanie thanks! It was really sweet of you to call your friend Mel

Leorah's poo when she does it is soft, she's definitely not constipated. I have also read about the anal muscle and this is what concerned me but they aren't listening just saying its very unlikely but noone has checked!! Also if anything the pain is getting worst not better, I can't believe that this is just down to an immature digestive system and is common because I have never heard of any of my friends babies having this complaint, wind yes, colic yes but not difficulty in passing a normal soft, mustard poo!

We are seeing yet another doctor on Tuesday, I will probably lose my temper if they don't check her out properly, I'm so fed up! We just had another meltdown. the frustrating thing is apart from this she's such a good baby, will keep herself amused and when she wakes up naturally not in pain just lies there cooing to herself. I can't believe a baby has to put up with that much pain

 

[nikki1306]

hope you get things sorted hun and little Leorah is better soon xx

 

[nicki]

Oh hun how horrid for poor lil Leorah. I hope you get it sorted on Tuesday

 

[skatty]

Its been the most terrible night. We are off to the hospital and I'm not leaving until this is sorted!

 

[Strangeness]

Awww hun I'm really sorry that you are going through this, it sounds terrible especially since the doctor's won't listen. I really hop it goes well at the hospital and finally get some answers

 

[Amanda]

I'm sorry I missed you before you went to hospital, but are definitely doing the right thing. By taking her to hospital when she is in pain will hopefully make them take notice.

Hope everything's going okay hun.

 

[Jayceesmumma]

Oh dear honey i hope shes okay and your getting it sorted.
With jaycee she had this for a week and its awful to watch them suffer. i used a small amount ( a few grains) of brown sugar in boiled cooled water in a small 4oz bottle and it helped her out for a while.
I hope alls wells soon hun

 

[skatty]

hI AND THANKS FOR YOUR MESSAGES

Oops sorry about the caps

Well we have been in hospital for another night of observation after seeing a doc who totally agreed with me that leorah does not have colic or wind or constipation and sounds like she has a problem with her bum muscle!

Well then the fun began! I have never been wo patronised in all my life! Noone would listen to me! All the nurses kept telling me its normal that young babies cry When Leorah was having the pain and strain pooing I called the buzzer for the nurse to come and see and she turned up after 40 minutes By then it was only the aftermath of having a very upset baby to calm down!

Leorah needed to poo again in the night and another nurse came in and told me it is normal too!! I got furious and said its barbaric that anyone would let a small baby have this amount of pain without further investigation. She started telling me there's no need to get angry and I lost it, I couldn't control myself! From then I didn't call for any nurses, Leorah might only be a month old but I decided to preserve her dignity and poo without an audience that are not prepared to help!

Anyway we got up this morning and waited for the doc and lo and behold a different one came and kept saying that she has colic and there is nothing that can be done! I am in a state by now, I couldn't eat or sleep with all the worry and stress! In the end she said she would feel up Little L's bum and she said it is tight but then said they can't do anything about it! By this time I demanded to see the doc from the day before and to cut a long story short after a lot of tantrums and threats Leorah is going back tomorrow to hopefully see a specialist. Why it has to be so hard I don't know!! Just because she is gaining weight they decide she is healthy, I kept telling them that I'm not saying she's ill, she's a happy normal baby but just has difficulty in passsing her stools!

To top it off the first doc wanted her to have more tests for jaundice, this would be about the 10th the last being on Friday (She is dark skinned like me not yellow! ) then the 2nd doc asaid this is rubbish she's not yellow at all and is perfectly healthy apart from the poo problem! I had enough at that exact point and came home!

I am so down about all this, I should be having the time of my life enjoying my baby but there is this big knot of worry in my stomach. All I can say is I know my baby and if they don't help her I will have to get a plane back to the Uk where I think the health of a baby is taken much more seriously. Sorry its long and that I probably sound like I've lost the plot, I think I have! I just want to scream

 

[Jayceesmumma]

Oh honey im so sorry! It doesnt sound as if youve lost the plot, u sound like a concerned mother!
I dont know what to suggest honey, maybe a trip to the UK would be good? Maybe call a UK hospital first and ask to speak to someone and see if its worth coming here before you make the journey?
I hope you find some answers soon and i hope LO is feelig better very soon! Hang in there!

 

Oh hun what a time you're having
The hospital sounds absolutely bloody uselss, I would be furious aswell!! I hope something can be done to help her, it's not normal for a baby to scream like that. I'm sorry you're having such a hassle getting through to them

 

[Tina & Gabs]

Good luck at the specialist today Skatty.

My heart goes out to you and Leorah hun and I really hope you get this sorted

 

[skatty]

Thanks everyone

Saw the specialist today and within 30 secs he diagnosed the problem with no probing of the bumhole at all!!! She has some little open cuts just inside her bum which would have been caused by being a bit constipated weeks ago and since then she would have been avoiding having a poo as much as she can because of the pain which makes a vicious circle because it has to come eventually and is more concentrated and therefore aggravates the problem! She is on liquid panadol and is taking some liquid that will make her poos runnier to give her little bum chance to heal. We are so happy we know what the problem is and that its not serious but also so furious it has taken 3 weeks. We are making a BIG complaint! The specialist doc couldn't believe that we were not sent to him immediately.

I feel so much happier but boy do I feel sorry for my LO.

Thanks for caring

 

[Melanie]

I was just about to text you to see what was happening Katt.

Im so glad that you got to see someone who wasnt a totally dumbass. I hope that things start to get better for little Leorah now hun.

 

[Jayceesmumma]

Aww thats great hun i would hav hugged that doc!! Defnitly complain hun u should have seen this guy sooner!
Im so glad things are picking up for your lil angel hun!

 

[Tina & Gabs]

Oh Skatty I am so happy that you have an answer. I bet you are relieved and furious all at once.

It never should have taken so long but at least you know now and Leorah can begin to get better