concieve plus, agnus castus and royal jelly... my experience !

[thea]

Hi ladies ! hope you don't mind me putting this post here but i've been debating whether to make this or not but if it helps someone its worth it.
so basically me an my hubby have been trying to conceive since feb 2017
I'm now 4 weeks and 6 days pregnant and its going very well FX
BUT !!! leading up to this moment was awfully strange and I really do want to talk about the three products I listed at the top !

before now I had THREE chemical pregnancies in FOUR MONTHS I would miscarry just after getting a positive test within a week or two and then ovulate 20 days later round about's and it would happen again!
I'm sure there women who can relate but I would get a faint but definite line on a sensitive test for it to go down 1-3 days later .. never enough HCG to show on a 20miu test and never on a clear blue digi !! all lasted under 4 weeks ..

so getting to it in those months I was taking agnus castus up until O and royal jelly all the way through, and we would use conceive plus lube every time we DTD .. which we did a ton in my fertile time .. and every time we were conceiving but the baby was never sticky, so june came around and I said I don't want to try this month I'm not taking ANYTHING, no vits no royal jelly no agnus and were not using that lube ... I focused on work and we DTD once round about my fertile time but at the beginning .. I was working out again and I refused to buy sensitive tests .. suddenly I noticed I was feeling sick and the smell of chewing gum and car journeys were making me feel sick .. at about 12 dpo I on the off chance tested with a cheap coop non sensitive test and a faint line .. I continued for it to get darker and darker ...clear blue digi has gone from 1-2 2-3 and lines are now as strong a the control .. but it got me thinking about the other months ..

I read a post about one lady who said along the lines of " those conception lubes sound great but nature only intends the strongest swimmers to get through and if this helps the weaker ones then maybe the chemical pregnancies could be down to your body rejecting the potential baby because there's something wrong ) now I know there's no science behind what I'm about to say but I think these lubes did play a huge part in my chemical pregnancies !!! I'm adamant .. I think personally if youre producing absolutely no EWCM then use a little but if you do like I did and youre suffering chemicals avoid it !! and try a month without it because I'm thinking it cant just be me !

as for agnus castus and royal jelly
Agnus did bring my periods down from 35 CD to 30CD and I deffo ovulated
and royal jelly did make me have implanation bleeding on my third chemical I know this because I started taking a higher dose at O and then I got IB 7 days later and my BFP at 9 which was gone by 11 DPO ..

so my advice is if youre having chemicals constantly and youre using the conceive plus gel ... give it a miss for a month like I did .. I'm not saying everyone is the same as me but if I can help someone then that would be amazing ! thankyou xxxxxx baby dust

 

[_GG_]

Very glad you've made it to 4+6, must feel amazing after the chemicals.

Fx you have a happy, healthy 9 months xxx

 

[thea]

Thankyou GG, I am but every day I'm mixed with worry and happiness ... the worry isn't going away ..
I remember reading a while back about a connection between preseed and chemical pregnancies ! A whole load of women were saying their MC was down to that and because conceive plus is the same thing really I'm thinking because it's the less talked about brand is there actually women who have been using it and like me had chemicals ... I think it's just worth putting out there. I understand that it's hard to pinpoint why a mc has happen but if there's so many women making a link then just maybe there is one ...

Xxx

 

[_GG_]

Thankyou GG, I am but every day I'm mixed with worry and happiness ... the worry isn't going away ..
I remember reading a while back about a connection between preseed and chemical pregnancies ! A whole load of women were saying their MC was down to that and because conceive plus is the same thing really I'm thinking because it's the less talked about brand is there actually women who have been using it and like me had chemicals ... I think it's just worth putting out there. I understand that it's hard to pinpoint why a mc has happen but if there's so many women making a link then just maybe there is one ...

Xxx

Personally, I only learned about these lubes when I joined this forum and my first thought echoed yours.

I thought, If the sperm are healthy and strong, they'll get through without the help but is there a chance that the help could allow less healthy sperm to make it?

It would be interesting to see it being looked into.

 

[KHTW]

Wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months!!

We conceived our DD month 4 which was the first time I tried preseed and I was also taking conceive plus. I guess it may work for some but not others xx

 

[Ttc1234]

We conceived month 4 and first month using preseed so I think it's pretty good. We are ttc no2 cycle one and used it this time again so will let you know how we get on

 

[_GG_]

I don't think there's ever going to be a way to know. We're all so different in how we work.

 

[thea]

That's so wonderful that there is genuine success stories it's clearly down to each male and female .. how their body's react and experiences sadly mine wasn't a good one ... but like GG said I don't think we'll ever know the full pros and cons in il someone finally holds a proper scientific study !! I just hope they do

Wishing all you lovely ladies you're BFP this month ♥️