Treatment and smoking?

[laurat]

Hey girls, I know it isn't a good thing and I should most definetly stop but I am prone to having the odd cigarette! Its only ever really at the weekend if Im having a drink. If I was to average it out Id say 20 a month. When I did find out I was pregnant before my mc I gave up instantly. I have really worked hard on my weight loss and have given my dedication to this recently. However when I get upset I do still want one and wouldnt do it in my 2ww but as Im not ovulating I still am. I know I can stop but this post is really to clarify something for me.

I have a fertility appointment in 2 weeks and I read a previous post about someone having to wait 3 months till the person stopped smoking. Im so annoyed at myself now as I lost the 8 stone to get a healthy BMI to be able to get an appointment and now am I going to be told no treatment for my loe estrogen eg clomoid perhaps untill I stop and have waited 3 months! Does anyone know if this is the case?

 

[Sunbeam638]

I don't know the answer but well done for not smoking when your Ttc, I stopped when we decided to Ttc and had the odd one on the weekend and haven't touched any since finding out! Go girl xx

 

[Sandy Bee]

Don't tell any medic that you're smoking.


5 a week is not much, but i've read that smoking reduces you chances of OV.

 

[laurat]

Thanks for your replies! I know that it does effect your fertility but my non ovulation Im pretty sure is not linked to the smoking. It is more to do with my mc and now they think my weight loss and depo preovera injection. I dont know if not telling them is the best option if Im honest as it is effectively lying and thats a whole new ball game!

I am angry at myself and know that other people will be annoyed at me for doing it. I now just need to know if they will actually not give me treatment if I do. I mean stopping today woul still be a start but when they ask about my lifestyle I feel I have to be honest. I can go months without it too. Its one of these things that I can hear the question of well why do it and my answer is I actually do need one now and again. Does anyone know for sure if the answer is no to treatment if I say yes? I hope I haven't offended anyone by asking!

 

[LouiseB]

You will definitely not be able to have any assisted fertility such as IUI, IVF, ICSI, etc if you or your partner smoke.

As for clomid, i'm not 100% sure, but i also think not.

Smoking is known to prevent ovulation from occurring, so it seems very unlikely that the Nhs will pay for drugs to help you to ovulate while you are inhaling toxins that stop you ovulating - it doesn't make sense.

I'm not going to judge you on smoking but i will point out that it's just as important, maybe even moreso, to prepare a healthy womb for the baby to develop in before it gets there.

The toxins from smoking will remain in your system long after you have stopped smoking, so the soon you stop the better.

Stopping when you get pregnant is probably too late, you need to stop now. When you say you need one... or else what? You scream? Shout? Have a hissy fit? Go for it

Oh, and there is no point in lying to the doctor because they can test you on the spot and you'll get busted.

I imagine that they'll want you to have not been smoking for 3 months... or maybe even 6 month

 

[laurat]

Ugh yet a bloody gain I bugger everything up! My oh will be raging. I just want to cry. I feel every time I get somewhere I get pushed 3 steps back. I am aware of the effects but I can't explain the feeling of not having one. If Im upset such as the day I found out I had miscarried it makes me calmer and less stressed. I dont think non smokers can ever understand the feeling of it. Its an addiction I guess even when I dont smoke a lot. I am pretty sure the smoking is not the reason for my non ovulation as its all gone haywire post mc and I smoked previously to that. I feared this but reading it has just made me realise how devasted I am at the thought of another 6 months not even being able to ttc.

 

[LouiseB]

Don't be too hard on yourself Laura

I'm sure everyone has been addicted to something at some point, maybe most just don't realise because it's socially acceptable

I think i understand about addiction. Some people just have addictive personalities.

Cold turkey is the only thing that i've ever seen as being affective so you just need to get a handle on it. Your GP can also help you loads - i think the Nhs will pay for a lot of it too.

When my husband quit smoking, just before i met him, he was chewing nicotine gum like there was no tomorrow. He would always have several pieces in his mouth at once and he was like that for several months until i got to know him and told him i thought they were rank and he found it much easier to switch to normal gum and then stop altogether.

Go see your doc asap

 

[laurat]

You know I can't even face going to my dr again. She is a nightmare and I have had enough of her. Was just staying with her till I got my fertility appointment. Its been one long and disfunctional journey to get her to do anything. Im actually surprised shes referred me as she has used every reason not to up till now so the smoking would have been an easy one. Waiting 3 to 6 months till I get my stupid body sorted is just enough to make me scream. Im just tired of feeling like Im climbing this hill and just when I think Im getting to the top I am thrown right back down. My dr told me last year about the weight why not about the smoking or at least 3 months ago when I went when my af stopped. I feel its all so bitty they don't give anwers or work together. If she had said I can't get fertility help smoking back then I would be 3 months stopped now. Ridicolously this is when I want to smoke! How ironic!!!

 

[LouiseB]

Here, check out this website:
http://smokefree.nhs.uk/ways-to-quit/

Make an appointment to go and see one of their advisors instead

You need to forget about the journey and just keep thinking about the end goal, which is getting your baby

I think telling the fertility consultant that you have stopped recently and been to see an advisor etc will indicate how serious you are taking it and can only work in your favour. Don't look for excuses to give up trying, just go and do it.

 

[laurat]

Thanks Louise, I am a highly motivated person and when I put my mind to something I do it. This was actually one of the only positive things Ive ever got from my dr. She said she had never seen such dedication to weight loss before. I will now target this energy and dedication into not smoking. I know that as of today I won't smoke again as its the way I work. I can go for months without having one anyway its just a habit that I lapse in and out of. If it gets me a baby then I can do it. Just can't help but be so angry at myself. Also gutted for my hubby as this whole journey is all my fault. First it was I was too fat, then a mc likely due to my decision to be on depo provera for years as I liked having no af. Now Im not ovulating and have low estrogen possibly due to too fast a weight loss or the depo again. Now the journey is longer because I selfishly enjoy the odd cigarette. His sperm is fine. I know he loves me and will forgive it but I still feel so guilty about it.

 

[LouiseB]

That's the spirit

Please don't blame yourself. It's not your fault. You didn't choose to be fat and you didn't choose to become addicted to cigerettes and you certainly didn't choose to have a m/c.

People are what they are and you are forcing changes to happen because you want a baby with your husband and he can never be upset with you about that and you certainly shouldn't feel guilty!

It'll all pay off in the end

 

[maybe baby]

Hi Laura,

Good luck stopping smoking Hun, don't feel to bad, I still have the odd glass of wine or a cocktail so no one's perfect.

I've been researching something called Asherman's syndrome, and some of the symptoms sound like some of yours.

Basically after a D&C sometimes scar tissue can form and this can stop a period from happening as it blocks the uterine wall.

Nurse26 has this and I remember her waiting ages for her AF after her D&C.

There could be other reasons for your lack of AF but this may be worth looking into.

You can be diagnosed with a scan but a hysteroscopy is better and don't worry it can be treated.

Check out this site.

http://www.ashermans.org/

xx

 

[laurat]

Thanks Maybe I appreciate this. I didn't have a d&c as I was left to pass everything naturally but will definetly have a look as Im sure something is going on from the mc!

 

[Nurse 26]

Hey hun, ashermans can occur from having an infection after MC too. worth a look.

I think you have done amazing with you weight loss and i have no doubt you will do the same with smoking, dont beat your self up about it, nobodys perfect! xxx