Soya milk - good for fertility or not??

[Corrinne37]

As the ti6tle says = what do we think ladies?

Ive heard its good because of iso flavones (cant spell it)

then recently i read its really bad??

What do we think?

x

 

[netty]

Its good with it haveing isoflav...somethings but advice is conflicting lol large amounts can increase ur cycles and decrease lh amounts. But u really wold have to drink like 10 glasses a day

 

[Kay Kay]

Hi Corrinne I don't know about soya milk but I have one soya yoghurt every day (I'm not vegan but I am veggie and just like them) and have done for the last 5 years or so I'm now worried this might be a problem...will look in to it. Where did you read it was really bad?

 

[Corrinne37]

HI kay KAY,
I read a sample of the Fertility Diet on line, and it said things really harmful to fertility are Soya, Peas, and Rhubarb!!!
Was only a sample so couldnt get to read anymore!!!
I have been having soya milk on purpose as thought it was good!!???

See what you can find - I will throw it out into the ttc section too. xx

 

[laurat]

Hey I have the book The Fertility Diet and am over half way through it. Its a brilliant read. In terms of soya milk it is not saying that it is harmful to ttc but that having a full fat portion if milk yoghurt or cheese a day has proven to increase your chance of getting pregnant. Also upping your bean and nut protein intake is better for you rather than meat protein. In terms of low fat milk ie soya then it is not stating not to have it but perhaps once a day have a full fat option. There are lots if interesting tips that I am now following because of it. It actually says soya beans for example are good for ttc. So in short I wouldnt necessarily worry greatly about your milk but I doo thoroughly reccomend reading the whole book. I got it in ebay for a great price. I would have given someone it soon when Im finished but to be honest I do actually refer back to it a lot!

 

[PyscoFalcon]

I'm lactose intollerant and the only milk alternatives I can stand taste of is Soya milk.
As long as you don't have loads you should be fine - everything is great in moderation.

Like I have a few drops in my cuppa otherwise I stick to black teas, have the Alpro Soya smooth yogurt things but only 1 pack a month as a treat.
About twice a year I use the alpro soya custard for my apply crumbles (in summer I put lemon or mango sorbert with it instead) and the soya cream to turn potant dark choc insto edable dairy free milk choc

Really don't think it's anything to do with our conditions tho girls - mainly as I've been this way as long as I remeber and only found Soya mil etc when we moved here 4 years ago. Before that I tried goats, cocanut, rice milk etc and just went without or had normal milk and became real poorly

So if you enjoy it - little bits are fine! Just like a glass of wine a week or a bit of choc is fine. Having it in vast amounts is what's unhealthy. Like eating nothing but bacon butties and greasy foods without exercise and veg!

 

[willowwisp]

Soya contains plant oestrogens which your body will break down before your own oestrogen. If you are struggling to conceive because of either high oestrogen levels or low progesterone levels then soya (and chick peas, tofu etc) should be avoided like the plague.

I'm a nutritionist and I specialise in vegetarian and vegan diets and I advise all of my clients to ration soya to no more than a couple of times a week. Those who are constantly tired, menopausal or TTC, depending on blood work, I usually get them off completely.

You can buy rice milk, hemp milk (which is fabulous for TTC because of the omegas), and kara (based on coconut milk) in most supermarkets these days. There are so many great tasting alternatives to choose from compared to a few years ago.

 

[Corrinne37]

oh thanks willowwisp,

I have changed my diet recently for ttc,
i am confused now!!
i had tests done and dr said my' hormones' ( dont know whether oestrogen or progesterone or both ) are on the lower side of normal? cos of my age , i am 38.

i have cut down on dairy (soy or rice milk instead) down and meat upped bean and nut and seed and grain intake , upped fruit and veg. i have a lot of chick peas and humus now!!

in your opinion would you say this a good move? xxxx

 

[cosmicgirl]

I tried isoflavones last year as I'd read about its "clomid" effect. Lots of reports of bfps with it.
It didn't do anything for me, no change in cycle, no bfp, nothing.
I gave them up after two months as I read it can increase the chance of multiples and that scared me off them x

 

[Corrinne37]

thanks cosmic,
the things we try! glad your doing ok and all is well with littke beany xxx

 

[cosmicgirl]

Cheers hun xx

 

[Corrinne37]

Hey I have the book The Fertility Diet and am over half way through it. Its a brilliant read. In terms of soya milk it is not saying that it is harmful to ttc but that having a full fat portion if milk yoghurt or cheese a day has proven to increase your chance of getting pregnant. Also upping your bean and nut protein intake is better for you rather than meat protein. In terms of low fat milk ie soya then it is not stating not to have it but perhaps once a day have a full fat option. There are lots if interesting tips that I am now following because of it. It actually says soya beans for example are good for ttc. So in short I wouldnt necessarily worry greatly about your milk but I doo thoroughly reccomend reading the whole book. I got it in ebay for a great price. I would have given someone it soon when Im finished but to be honest I do actually refer back to it a lot!

thanks laura,
i sure i read in the preview that she said it was harmful to ttc!!!
I am consideriung getting the book but keep reading dif reviews and confused which book to get!
The baby making bible looks pretty good , so may end up getting both! x

 

[willowwisp]

I can't really comment without seeing results and knowing the cycle day. What is most important thing when conceiving is that your progesterone and oestrogen levels are in balance. If you have too much oestrogen in relation to progesterone then you will struggle to implant.

If you are ovulating then you have enough oestrogen, more than is needed to ovulate is a hindrance rather than a help. Once you have ovulated you need your oestrogen levels to drop drastically so that progesterone can pick up and make your womb the right environment for implantation and then to keep the pregnancy.

Eating unrefined carbs such as whole grains in place of refined carbs such as white breads and cakes is a massive help. Dairy removal is very helpful, but choosing organic dairy produce is second best, so you don't get second hand hormones and chemicals. Nuts and beans are fabulous sources of natural proteins, you can't go wrong do long as your choosing unsalted and unsugared products.

I can't comment on the suitability of what you've been advised diet as I say without knowing your blood results, but generally it's sensible stuff. If I were you I would track ovulation and make sure you are ovulating, and talk to your GP about the possibility of progesterone cream if your progesterone levels are low.

 

[Corrinne37]

Ok thanks willow,
Yes I am ovulating and periods very regular!
I do already have a son with OH, just had probs falling pg 2nd time round and holding on to the pregnancy after two MC's.

Just hormones were a little low thats all I was told - so will just continue to eat as healthy as pos.

Thanks for your help xxx

 

[daniph1]

I know nothing about this topic so sorry I cant help! But it sounds like your doing everything you can! we will get there, darling both you and I xxxx

 

[timtam78]

Hi Corrine, I'm trying to research this subject myself at the moment as I'm vegan so have soya sometimes although i don't rely on it. There's lots of conflicting information out there on this issue, some saying its good but others saying it can mess up the hormone balance. Although i think that in moderation it wouldn't cause problems. I have read that processed soya products are more the problem and that its the 'fermented soy' that helps your body absorb more isoflavones so i wouldn't rely on the soy milks and stuff out there for that. If I find out anything useful I'll come back and post it here.

x