November 2ww

[linxminx21]

Iv had a little more pink cm when I wipe today af still 7-9 days away. (7 days my shortest cycle)

 

[KatD]

Iv had a little more pink cm when I wipe today af still 7-9 days away. (7 days my shortest cycle)

Ooooohhhhhh!!!!!! This is good news! I'm hoping that it's IB!

 

[linxminx21]

Iv had a little more pink cm when I wipe today af still 7-9 days away. (7 days my shortest cycle)

Ooooohhhhhh!!!!!! This is good news! I'm hoping that it's IB!

I really hope so too. But all cramping has stopped today.

It could be from a procedure I had done a few months ago I had some of the cervix taken away. But I didn't spot before last period but Iv read some women can so it's put me on a downer now lol

 

[MoominGirl]

So I reckon I'm about 7dpo. Went for progesterone bloods today, They don't seem to have requested any bloods for days 2-5. I contacted the clinic directly to confirm what they needed but it still felt like a waste of time at the GP I'll try and speak to someone sensible next week. Also had to book another chlamydia test as it needs to be less than 6 months old. Again GP didn't tell me that. OH was trying to tell me to chill out as we have loads of time before the clinic in January. I had to explain to him that actually I need them done at the start of the next cycle as the one after that will be over Christmas and we'll be away. If the clinic cancel the January appointment I think I'll have a complete meltdown especially as I've arranged to have the day off.

Haven't had a particularly good time of it lately anyway so all this chasing really isn't helpful. Been very tearful and down in the dumps. Trying to pull myself together but not really succeeding. Had a few meltdowns with OH. He's finally admitted that he doesn't fancy our chances naturally any more. I've truly felt that way for a while and I'm glad he's finally there with me but it broke my heart to hear him say that as he really is one of the happiest people I've ever known. It was hard

Sorry things are so stressful at the moment. Hope you get some answers from the tests. xx

Thanks Sunflower. Tbh I don't think the tests will tell me anything different. I'm just treating it as another box ticking exercise for the new clinic as the last lot are over months old. OH will most likely need to do another sperm test. I think he must be the only man in the world who doesn't find that stressful lol!! As this will be his 4th, he's just like whatever haha. Anyway, I'm not losing sleep over the results. They are what they are and it really doesn't matter what they say, we're not pregnant. I think we've now had everything the NHS can offer us except the one cycle of IVF. We've set April as a point in our minds where we could see ourselves going for it. So the way I'm looking at it is that it's only around 5 more cycles of disappointment I need to get us through.

I had acupuncture yesterday. Almost cancelled as I was feeling so crap. Glad I didn't as I was able to really let off some steam and I do feel a whole lot better despite the negativity. Hope you're doing ok.

 

[Sunflower1]

So I reckon I'm about 7dpo. Went for progesterone bloods today, They don't seem to have requested any bloods for days 2-5. I contacted the clinic directly to confirm what they needed but it still felt like a waste of time at the GP I'll try and speak to someone sensible next week. Also had to book another chlamydia test as it needs to be less than 6 months old. Again GP didn't tell me that. OH was trying to tell me to chill out as we have loads of time before the clinic in January. I had to explain to him that actually I need them done at the start of the next cycle as the one after that will be over Christmas and we'll be away. If the clinic cancel the January appointment I think I'll have a complete meltdown especially as I've arranged to have the day off.

Haven't had a particularly good time of it lately anyway so all this chasing really isn't helpful. Been very tearful and down in the dumps. Trying to pull myself together but not really succeeding. Had a few meltdowns with OH. He's finally admitted that he doesn't fancy our chances naturally any more. I've truly felt that way for a while and I'm glad he's finally there with me but it broke my heart to hear him say that as he really is one of the happiest people I've ever known. It was hard

Sorry things are so stressful at the moment. Hope you get some answers from the tests. xx

Thanks Sunflower. Tbh I don't think the tests will tell me anything different. I'm just treating it as another box ticking exercise for the new clinic as the last lot are over months old. OH will most likely need to do another sperm test. I think he must be the only man in the world who doesn't find that stressful lol!! As this will be his 4th, he's just like whatever haha. Anyway, I'm not losing sleep over the results. They are what they are and it really doesn't matter what they say, we're not pregnant. I think we've now had everything the NHS can offer us except the one cycle of IVF. We've set April as a point in our minds where we could see ourselves going for it. So the way I'm looking at it is that it's only around 5 more cycles of disappointment I need to get us through.

I had acupuncture yesterday. Almost cancelled as I was feeling so crap. Glad I didn't as I was able to really let off some steam and I do feel a whole lot better despite the negativity. Hope you're doing ok.

I've heard great things about acupuncture. Not long til the IVF then...do the NHS only offer one cycle? I really hope you get a BFP in the meantime!

I'm 8dpo... DH had sperm test last week and was very stressed. Guess we'll get the results of that back. Changed my diet slightly and it seems to have affected my hormones slightly for the better as got 4 days of flashing smileys whereas before I got 1 or none. So hoping that will help. Timed everything perfectly this month. Not sure whether I feel positive or negative. I don't have much expectation of having a baby anymore but haven't ruled out that it could happen. Turning 42 2 days ago was a bit stressful but then I keep hearing of women in their 40s having kids. It's becoming the norm.

 

[Sunflower1]

Iv had a little more pink cm when I wipe today af still 7-9 days away. (7 days my shortest cycle)

That's a really good sign! FX for you xx

 

[MoominGirl]

So I reckon I'm about 7dpo. Went for progesterone bloods today, They don't seem to have requested any bloods for days 2-5. I contacted the clinic directly to confirm what they needed but it still felt like a waste of time at the GP I'll try and speak to someone sensible next week. Also had to book another chlamydia test as it needs to be less than 6 months old. Again GP didn't tell me that. OH was trying to tell me to chill out as we have loads of time before the clinic in January. I had to explain to him that actually I need them done at the start of the next cycle as the one after that will be over Christmas and we'll be away. If the clinic cancel the January appointment I think I'll have a complete meltdown especially as I've arranged to have the day off.

Haven't had a particularly good time of it lately anyway so all this chasing really isn't helpful. Been very tearful and down in the dumps. Trying to pull myself together but not really succeeding. Had a few meltdowns with OH. He's finally admitted that he doesn't fancy our chances naturally any more. I've truly felt that way for a while and I'm glad he's finally there with me but it broke my heart to hear him say that as he really is one of the happiest people I've ever known. It was hard

Sorry things are so stressful at the moment. Hope you get some answers from the tests. xx

Thanks Sunflower. Tbh I don't think the tests will tell me anything different. I'm just treating it as another box ticking exercise for the new clinic as the last lot are over months old. OH will most likely need to do another sperm test. I think he must be the only man in the world who doesn't find that stressful lol!! As this will be his 4th, he's just like whatever haha. Anyway, I'm not losing sleep over the results. They are what they are and it really doesn't matter what they say, we're not pregnant. I think we've now had everything the NHS can offer us except the one cycle of IVF. We've set April as a point in our minds where we could see ourselves going for it. So the way I'm looking at it is that it's only around 5 more cycles of disappointment I need to get us through.

I had acupuncture yesterday. Almost cancelled as I was feeling so crap. Glad I didn't as I was able to really let off some steam and I do feel a whole lot better despite the negativity. Hope you're doing ok.

I've heard great things about acupuncture. Not long til the IVF then...do the NHS only offer one cycle? I really hope you get a BFP in the meantime!

I'm 8dpo... DH had sperm test last week and was very stressed. Guess we'll get the results of that back. Changed my diet slightly and it seems to have affected my hormones slightly for the better as got 4 days of flashing smileys whereas before I got 1 or none. So hoping that will help. Timed everything perfectly this month. Not sure whether I feel positive or negative. I don't have much expectation of having a baby anymore but haven't ruled out that it could happen. Turning 42 2 days ago was a bit stressful but then I keep hearing of women in their 40s having kids. It's becoming the norm.

I'd also heard lots of good things about acupuncture both with and without IVF so I wanted to give it a try well in advance and plan to carry on through IVF. I have absolutely no issues with needles so that part was never going to be a problem so I felt I had nothing to lose. Found a really lovely lady who can see me evenings and Saturdays which was actually the biggest battle I found!! The emotional support is massive as it really helps to vent but it feels even more therapeutic face to face than it already does on here. Means poor OH doesn't have to listen to me all the time lol!

In my area it's only one fresh cycle so I want to make it count. Trying to make as many positive lifestyle changes between now and then. Going to try CoQ10. I don't care if it's expensive. A 2nd shot at IVF will cost a whole lot more. I'm still hoping we can do it naturally but I think if we haven't after around 9 months following the surgery, I can sleep at night knowing that we've tried our best.

I think what you say about expectations is similar to how I feel. I don't have much expectation either but the fact we've tried and timed everything perfectly (just like nearly every other month) means that there's still hope which means I still act like I didn't see it coming as soon as the witch arrives.

I hope your OH gets his results soon and the give you a bit of reassurance. We waited around 2 weeks. Though in our experience, no news was good news as he had to chase the results of the good sample but they called him for the bad one. Not sure if that's helpful as I'm sure everywhere is different. Hope you get your BFP soon!!

 

[Sunflower1]

Thanks Moomingirl. 9 months isn't very long (I know it must feel that way) given that the average length of time is 6 months. So glad you've got somewhere to vent - sounds really good. I had acupuncture once, and just that feeling of having someone working on you is so healing and supportive. I'm interested in CoQ10 too, and bee pollen. If you make any dietary changes I'd make sure you do it soon as it can create stress on the body while it adjusts and mess with hormones. I've been dieting the last few years and even 'good' dietry change can make you feel rough and run down in the short term.

Sounds like we have similar approaches - just do whatever you can to help it but have low expectations! There's definitely lots of hope left!

Thanks for the tip about the sperm results - he dropped it in on wednesday so hope we don't hear for a while now! He's doing so well at getting fit and losing weight so I am hoping it'll be good news.

 

[MoominGirl]

That was sort of our logic about giving it until March. Even though it does feel like forever, I kinda figured that we've been at it this long, another few months won't kill us!!

We've really made an effort to up fruit and veg in general. Also swapped most of our red meat for fish and cooking the vast majority from scratch. Acupuncturist also suggested reducing dairy so will likely give that a go. Glad your OH is making good progress. Mine has also been up for improvements so I'm glad about that.

Still trying to hang on to the hope but really not doing a great job of it. Just had another meltdown as it turns out our referral has been cancelled completely due to these blood tests!!! Of course I had to phone and chase this. There is now no appointment in January bu no one actually thought to tell me this. Really getting fed up of the whole thing. Just feel like it's taking over my life and I spend so much time chasing stuff. It's really difficult to find somewhere private at work. It's getting cold now so I'm really getting fed up hiding in the bushes!!

 

[Sunflower1]

That was sort of our logic about giving it until March. Even though it does feel like forever, I kinda figured that we've been at it this long, another few months won't kill us!!

We've really made an effort to up fruit and veg in general. Also swapped most of our red meat for fish and cooking the vast majority from scratch. Acupuncturist also suggested reducing dairy so will likely give that a go. Glad your OH is making good progress. Mine has also been up for improvements so I'm glad about that.

Still trying to hang on to the hope but really not doing a great job of it. Just had another meltdown as it turns out our referral has been cancelled completely due to these blood tests!!! Of course I had to phone and chase this. There is now no appointment in January bu no one actually thought to tell me this. Really getting fed up of the whole thing. Just feel like it's taking over my life and I spend so much time chasing stuff. It's really difficult to find somewhere private at work. It's getting cold now so I'm really getting fed up hiding in the bushes!!

Haha! It'll all be worth it. Oh my god, can't believe they canceled the appointment. How frustrating. We are having a lot of fish too and cooking everything from scratch. Is red meat bad? I read that it has tons of amino acids necessary for fertility and is important for testosterone...my OH gets very tired without his red meat. We have cut our meat consumption quite a bit and are having tons of pulses. It's so difficult to know what's best with all the different advice out there. DH is having cranberry juice too, which is apparently good for men.

We actually went dairy free 2 years ago and feel great on it. We had a very heavy detox coming off dairy though so watch out for that.

I hope they remake your appointment! Sounds like you are doing everything humanly possible in the meantime though! xx

 

[MoominGirl]

Thanks Sunflower for the words of encouragement. I've dusted myself off yet again and I'll be getting on to the GP tomorrow. Sounds like they've just rejected the referral completely as it didn't have all the right info. I get that but it would be nice to be told rather than having to do so much chasing myself.

I read Marilyn Glenville's book and she suggested dropping the red meat. Haven't ditched it completely as still like a steak every once in a while but we've made it more of a treat. We really were eating too much and didn't miss it as much as we thought we would. Everything you read is so conflicting, it's hard.

The problem with going completely dairy free is the chocolate and ice cream (OH is a bit addicted lol!). I think I could use dairy free at breakfast as I make porridges and stuff so don't think I'd notice the difference. I do eat natural yoghurt with berries at lunch so not sure what I'd replace that with. Cheese is the other one as although I've cut it back a lot, I think ditching it completely would be hard. OH loves pizza. Also butter as I do like to bake. Any tips would be great. I'm keen to give it a shot though as I hear it's good for skin as well.

 

[DeeDeeAbi]

Quickly dipping in- moomin, my acupuncturist highly recommend the alkaline diet to me- like you've said with the reduced dairy & red meat, but upping foods like lemons and chickpeas. Loooads of recipes on Pinterest. Hope your TTC journey is over soon xx

 

[MoominGirl]

Thanks for that DeeDeeAbi. Will look into it. Need to make gradual changes to keep OH on board as there's no way we could follow separate meal plans. Trying to up my water intake as well.

 

[millielaura]

Ohh my body is so confusing. I usually ovulate like day 18-20 but last month was a weird cycle and now this month I had ewcm days 12,13 and this morning 14. but my opk this morning was negative. Now the ewcm has gone and just have creamy cm. Whereas it usually stays. Now I don't know if I maybe did ovulate early ? xx

 

[Frankinstein12]

Joining the band wagon
5dpo
Had the sorest of nipples ever for about a week or so now!
X

 

[linxminx21]

I'm now 8dpo. Keep getting a dull prodding pain on the left in my groin (worrying my slightly because 1. I'm a worrier anyway and 2.eptopic)
Iv Deffo got some pain in the boobs. Not loads and it's a dull ache/pain.
Iv also woke up feeling a bit sick and I felt sick last night too. Tested on a cheapie obviously bfn

 

[Sunflower1]

Thanks Sunflower for the words of encouragement. I've dusted myself off yet again and I'll be getting on to the GP tomorrow. Sounds like they've just rejected the referral completely as it didn't have all the right info. I get that but it would be nice to be told rather than having to do so much chasing myself.

I read Marilyn Glenville's book and she suggested dropping the red meat. Haven't ditched it completely as still like a steak every once in a while but we've made it more of a treat. We really were eating too much and didn't miss it as much as we thought we would. Everything you read is so conflicting, it's hard.

The problem with going completely dairy free is the chocolate and ice cream (OH is a bit addicted lol!). I think I could use dairy free at breakfast as I make porridges and stuff so don't think I'd notice the difference. I do eat natural yoghurt with berries at lunch so not sure what I'd replace that with. Cheese is the other one as although I've cut it back a lot, I think ditching it completely would be hard. OH loves pizza. Also butter as I do like to bake. Any tips would be great. I'm keen to give it a shot though as I hear it's good for skin as well.

I have tons of diary free tips as we are both massive foodies. We actually had homemade pizza at the weekend and I think Pizza Hut is trialing a dairy free pizza with vegan cheese. Cheese: Violife from Holland and Barretts is awesome. We use the mozzerella one. It's gross cold and needs to be cooked. Cooked we have fooled people into thinking it was cheese - had it on nachos. It melts just like cheese.

We don't eat soy but you can get soya yoghurt and icecream. We had some coconut icecream at the weekend and it was amazing...actually nicer than normal icecream. You can get coconut yoghurt too.

Milk-wise, we use almond, cashew, hazelnut (tastes like praline). It is expensive but most supermarkets put it down to a pound for a limited period so you can stock up when it's cheaper.

In cooking you can also use coconut milk and cream (avoid the coconut milk brands with caragineenans in as it's not good for you).

I have Tescos 85% cocoa dark chocolate. Dark chocolate is really good for you - especially woman as it's full of magnesium. I use to love white and milk chocolate but now I like dark better. Cocoa in general is very good for the liver - Bournville do just cocoa with no milk added. Raw cacao is even better.

(As you can see we're kind of health nuts! We're also gluten free so it makes life a bit challenging!)

Cashew and hazelnut milk are much thicker and creamier than almond, and would be really good for porridge.

My OH bakes and cooks a lot - he uses coconut oil a lot. Butter is hard to replace. There's loads of stuff online about dairy free cooking.

But giving it up totally is a bit of an ordeal - if you just want to cut down you can keep in the things that you would struggle without.

Hope the referral gets sorted. We've had problems with referrals just not being put through (not fertility but other stuff). You have to chase everything! Good luck with it! xx

 

[Sunflower1]

Had loads of stabby pains on right side yesterday - for about an hour (8dpo). Don't wanna get hopes up though....

 

[Sunflower1]

Quickly dipping in- moomin, my acupuncturist highly recommend the alkaline diet to me- like you've said with the reduced dairy & red meat, but upping foods like lemons and chickpeas. Loooads of recipes on Pinterest. Hope your TTC journey is over soon xx

For alkaline, apple cider vinegar is really good too.

 

[Melly41]

Had loads of stabby pains on right side yesterday - for about an hour (8dpo). Don't wanna get hopes up though....

Oh sunflower...i hope this is a good sign for you x