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Nowadays they don't do it unless for medical reasons. It's not more hygenic to have it done - so long as you wash regularly then that's the way the human body is designed so it works perfectly well.
Would he have your daughter circumsized as well? Why would you want to cut off pieces of a perfect little boy?
Would he have your daughter circumsized as well? Why would you want to cut off pieces of a perfect little boy?
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It is onyl done in religous purposes or medical reasons and would you really want it done as its very painful to have done.
Give your son the the option to at least when hes older.
Give your son the the option to at least when hes older.
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It was a good read but i have to point out all these men are talking about it for hygiene reasons. Do none of them know how to pull their foreskin back to wash their bits and pieces.If thewy did this they would not be open to penile infection.
I have a son and wouldnt dream of getting him circumsized.When i bath him every night i wash his bits properly and my husband has already said when stephens foreskin is a bit more developed he will showe him how to wash himself properly in that area. i would not want to put him thriugh the pain and as studys have shown,newborns suffer excruciating pain after circumcision.
It is up to you at the end of the day though.
I have a son and wouldnt dream of getting him circumsized.When i bath him every night i wash his bits properly and my husband has already said when stephens foreskin is a bit more developed he will showe him how to wash himself properly in that area. i would not want to put him thriugh the pain and as studys have shown,newborns suffer excruciating pain after circumcision.
It is up to you at the end of the day though.
i once watched a programm on tv and they showed this baby being done and i was 
the baby was screaming his little head off, how anyone can do that to their own child is beyond me and they were saying that the infection rate is so high
the baby was screaming his little head off, how anyone can do that to their own child is beyond me and they were saying that the infection rate is so highwhat annoys me about it - and midna not a dig at you as you siad you are going to discuss it with OH is that noone would dream of cutting off little girls' bits in this country (altho in some countries still part of the culture 
) but its ok to cut off little boys'. If the hygiene aspect was that bad then men would have died out years ago from the infections 
My DH had to have it done at an older age due to medical problems and has bad scarring (still works tho...) and my dad had to have it done at 18 for health reasons and said it was the most painful thing he has ever had done - including burst appendix, broken collarbone and hernia.
Josh had to have an op at 12 weeks on his feet, I cried as they explained the risks to me off a baby having an op (it was necessary) - why would anyone choose to go through that...
) but its ok to cut off little boys'. If the hygiene aspect was that bad then men would have died out years ago from the infections My DH had to have it done at an older age due to medical problems and has bad scarring (still works tho...) and my dad had to have it done at 18 for health reasons and said it was the most painful thing he has ever had done - including burst appendix, broken collarbone and hernia.
Josh had to have an op at 12 weeks on his feet, I cried as they explained the risks to me off a baby having an op (it was necessary) - why would anyone choose to go through that...
We had our boy circumzised when he was 7 days old, my OH is Jewish (however not religious or else he won't have married me!). He wanted it done partly for tradition and partly for health reasons. As Otis is not mine alone I felt that I couldn't just flat out deny him, so I agreed but only if it was done as soon as poss after he was born.
It was a very civil and medicially well preformed circumsition, obviously Otis screamed but which baby doesn't when their that young and being exposed - your baby ever let you change their nappy at that age with out causing some kind of stink? He did have a local anasethic cream applied so the pain would have been minimal, he certainly has not been scared in anyway.
The GP who did the circumsition was fantastic and if it weren't for him I may have been a lot more affected by it at the time - I didn't even cry!!
On a personal level I prefer my men to be snip anyway, think it looks nicer - but that's a whole different story!!!
It was a very civil and medicially well preformed circumsition, obviously Otis screamed but which baby doesn't when their that young and being exposed - your baby ever let you change their nappy at that age with out causing some kind of stink? He did have a local anasethic cream applied so the pain would have been minimal, he certainly has not been scared in anyway.
The GP who did the circumsition was fantastic and if it weren't for him I may have been a lot more affected by it at the time - I didn't even cry!!
On a personal level I prefer my men to be snip anyway, think it looks nicer - but that's a whole different story!!!
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In America... I think it is still standard that everyone is circumsized at birth (boys that is)... I know it has been that way... (wether that's starting to change I don't know)...All my boyfriends had been circumsized ...and when I met my hubby... he is british ... he wasn't circumsized...that was the first uncircumsized penis I had ever seen! 
When I eventually told him this he was shocked that it's pretty standard in the States. I use to work in a daycare in the infants and toddler room...and there was only one boy out of like... 30 that hadn't been circumsized. I had a friend who was a nurse and who assisted with alot of circumsitions and said that it was a delicate procedure but they baby felt minimal pain and some babies didn't even really cry during the op. I don't know my veiw point on it. My DH said that he isn't really bothered if we have a boy whether he is or not. As far as hygiene I think it works both ways... the foreskin is suppose to help keep it protected... but then sometimes it's difficult to clean as well as without a foreskin. I have noticed that my DH's penis seems to be a bit more sensitive under the foreskin than people I have been with in the past. I guess because the foreskin keeps it from coming in contact with other things (except during sex of course) I think it's something that should be discussed with a few doctors and get the best medical opinion that you can. I think either way is fine.
When I eventually told him this he was shocked that it's pretty standard in the States. I use to work in a daycare in the infants and toddler room...and there was only one boy out of like... 30 that hadn't been circumsized. I had a friend who was a nurse and who assisted with alot of circumsitions and said that it was a delicate procedure but they baby felt minimal pain and some babies didn't even really cry during the op. I don't know my veiw point on it. My DH said that he isn't really bothered if we have a boy whether he is or not. As far as hygiene I think it works both ways... the foreskin is suppose to help keep it protected... but then sometimes it's difficult to clean as well as without a foreskin. I have noticed that my DH's penis seems to be a bit more sensitive under the foreskin than people I have been with in the past. I guess because the foreskin keeps it from coming in contact with other things (except during sex of course) I think it's something that should be discussed with a few doctors and get the best medical opinion that you can. I think either way is fine.I'm surprised so many people have so many bad things to say about circumcision.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having it done and it doesn't mean anyone is cruel or a bad parent if they wish that their son is circumcised.
There is also absolutely nothing wrong with not having it done.
There is no risk with circumcision, especially if it is done when the baby is quite young. It is not old fashioned, it is a parents choice.
My DH is Nigerian and it is his tradition that the males are circumcised shortly after birth. DH is also circumcised and having seen both sides of the coin (so to speak), I much prefer it. It has not had any adverse effect on him whatsoever.
I am currently 28 weeks pregnant with our first son and fully support the decision to have him circumsised. It is perhaps something I wouldn't have thought of had I had an English DH, but I'm certainly not going to say no when there is no adverse medical reason or risk to the procedure.
When boys are very young, it is a simple tiny snip and doesn't even have to be performed in a hospital. I don't feel in the slightest bit guilty for making this decision. When our son is old enough we will explain to him why we had it done and I'm sure he will be proud of his heritage.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with having it done and it doesn't mean anyone is cruel or a bad parent if they wish that their son is circumcised.
There is also absolutely nothing wrong with not having it done.
There is no risk with circumcision, especially if it is done when the baby is quite young. It is not old fashioned, it is a parents choice.
My DH is Nigerian and it is his tradition that the males are circumcised shortly after birth. DH is also circumcised and having seen both sides of the coin (so to speak), I much prefer it. It has not had any adverse effect on him whatsoever.
I am currently 28 weeks pregnant with our first son and fully support the decision to have him circumsised. It is perhaps something I wouldn't have thought of had I had an English DH, but I'm certainly not going to say no when there is no adverse medical reason or risk to the procedure.
When boys are very young, it is a simple tiny snip and doesn't even have to be performed in a hospital. I don't feel in the slightest bit guilty for making this decision. When our son is old enough we will explain to him why we had it done and I'm sure he will be proud of his heritage.
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is there such thing as a girl being circumzised
and changing the subject - what are the Jewish beliefs regarding circumzision? just out of interest.
i have never seen a circumzised dinkle, i wouldnt know what to do with it
and changing the subject - what are the Jewish beliefs regarding circumzision? just out of interest.
i have never seen a circumzised dinkle, i wouldnt know what to do with it
dionne said:is there such thing as a girl being circumzised
and changing the subject - what are the Jewish beliefs regarding circumzision? just out of interest.
oh lord dionne!! its barbaric and it is still performed in some countries.
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budge said:dionne said:is there such thing as a girl being circumzised
and changing the subject - what are the Jewish beliefs regarding circumzision? just out of interest.
oh lord dionne!! its barbaric and it is still performed in some countries.
really? i have never heard of it, what do they remove and what is the reason?
*EDIT* i just looked it up on Google
Budge - maybe a bit harsh you think!? My OH certainly doesn't think it's barbaric and is glad his parents had it done hence why we had Otis snipped. Obviously if you need to have it done later in life it will be more painful, but as my husband said - and he's seen a few circumsitions the snip it self doesn't seem to hurt the babies but rather the fact that they are so exposed. As mentioned already in the States it is more of less standard pracitse nower days. Besides the health benefits studies have shown that men who have been circumsized are 70% less likely to catch AIDs.
It is sad that so many people seem to feel so negatively about something which it seems they know so little about. Maybe people need to see both sides of the coin to get a better understanding.
It is sad that so many people seem to feel so negatively about something which it seems they know so little about. Maybe people need to see both sides of the coin to get a better understanding.
Budge just re read your last post and realised you were reffering to female circumsition 
!!! Yes agreed that is barbaric and unfortunately still practised in some countries, apparently that is a painful op and makes intercourse very unpleasant, definately wouldn't inflict that on anyone.
Dionne - Just had a look and it seems that back in the day circumcisions were done to desensitise the penis and curb masturbation (it is in the Bible - Leviticus 12:3).
However if you want to know more have a look at -
http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/
they also have links to non religious circumcisions and interestingly enough one against circumcisions.
By the way sorry Budge, should learn to read posts a bit more carefully!!!!
!!! Yes agreed that is barbaric and unfortunately still practised in some countries, apparently that is a painful op and makes intercourse very unpleasant, definately wouldn't inflict that on anyone. Dionne - Just had a look and it seems that back in the day circumcisions were done to desensitise the penis and curb masturbation (it is in the Bible - Leviticus 12:3).
However if you want to know more have a look at -
http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/
they also have links to non religious circumcisions and interestingly enough one against circumcisions.
By the way sorry Budge, should learn to read posts a bit more carefully!!!!
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Personally I don't agree it on unless there is a medical need
Unless you've been circumised at an older age - you have no idea if it's made any difference. Both my DH and my dad were done as older teenagers and it did remove sensitivity for them. So it does make a difference - the little boys having it done at an early age just don't know that.
And as for asthetic reasons - again can you imagine having something done to your little girl's bits for asthetic reasons - her boyfriend might think it looks nicer when she grows up....
The mums on here (and women nationwide) would be up in arms about it.
And as for asthetic reasons - again can you imagine having something done to your little girl's bits for asthetic reasons - her boyfriend might think it looks nicer when she grows up....
The mums on here (and women nationwide) would be up in arms about it.the aesthetic side of things is just a by-product of the actual procedure, I'm sure no-one would have it done for those reasons.
For many people, it is a cultural decision and part of their tradition and heritage. If performed properly it does not adversely affect the child. And it can actually increase sensitivity as the glans (head) of the penis is the most sensitive part and without the foreskin can be just as sensitive if not more than it was before.
Those of us with partners who are circumcised will tell you that it certainly does not affect intimacy in any way compared to a non-circumcised man.
It is not right to judge someone who is thinking or has decided to have it done to their son. I think it is important to present a balanced arguement. You may not agree with it, but certainly shouldn't scare monger people into feeling guilty about considering it. If you don't understand the reasons then that's fine, but don't flame the poor woman.
There are plenty of positive examples and stories to back up all your negative ones, as there are with any medical procedure. I'm sure any Doctor will tell you the same thing.
It is Midna and her partners decision and providing they gather all the relevant information and are properly informed on all aspects of the procedure then they should do what they think best.
I've never met a circumcised man, who had it done as a small baby, who resents his parents for the procedure. Most of DHs friends have had it done as part of their culture and they have no adverse feelings whatsoever.
For many people, it is a cultural decision and part of their tradition and heritage. If performed properly it does not adversely affect the child. And it can actually increase sensitivity as the glans (head) of the penis is the most sensitive part and without the foreskin can be just as sensitive if not more than it was before.
Those of us with partners who are circumcised will tell you that it certainly does not affect intimacy in any way compared to a non-circumcised man.
It is not right to judge someone who is thinking or has decided to have it done to their son. I think it is important to present a balanced arguement. You may not agree with it, but certainly shouldn't scare monger people into feeling guilty about considering it. If you don't understand the reasons then that's fine, but don't flame the poor woman.
There are plenty of positive examples and stories to back up all your negative ones, as there are with any medical procedure. I'm sure any Doctor will tell you the same thing.
It is Midna and her partners decision and providing they gather all the relevant information and are properly informed on all aspects of the procedure then they should do what they think best.
I've never met a circumcised man, who had it done as a small baby, who resents his parents for the procedure. Most of DHs friends have had it done as part of their culture and they have no adverse feelings whatsoever.
My OH is as its part of his culture, most boys in south africa are done. He claims its "more hygenic" then I read a quote from a book to him about it which said that this is a myth, it was more hygenic 2000 years ago but with todays modern washing facilities it makes no difference whatsoever so leave babies with what they're born with.
I'm not going to put my son through it.
I'm not going to put my son through it.
