Are there circumstances to wean before 6months?

I started first tastes 2 weeks before he will turn 6 months, as I have a weaning plan that recommends that. But I wouldn't have even started first tastes if he wasn't showing the signs that he was ready.

I just can't see these major objections applying to literally a few baby spoonfuls of veg once a day!

But ultimately, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt that they're doing what they think is right for their baby.
 
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Never ever heard of first tastes, can I ask what the point of it is?

Of course the signs are the things to follow but these signs will no way at all happen at 4 months, never! 5.5 months - 6.5 months is a more accurate age but then the guidelines do say "around about 6 months".

When I'm saying wait till 6 months I don't mean to the day, but I don't think there should be much in it still.
 
In hindsight, Riley was ready at 5 months but I held off to make sure the 3 signs were all well and truly there. He had bits of fruit at 5.5 months and we started weaning the day he turned 6 months.

Probably a controversial opinion but I don't see the point in baby rice. It has no real nutritional value, although I can understand from a texture POV.

I never used purée and very rarely used jars. I went straight onto mashed - I batch cooked, smushed everything together and froze. I defrosted and warmed up with milk and spoon fed. That was lunch and dinner. Breakfast has always been Weetabix or porridge, with a recent introduction of toast. He always fed himself his snacks, so it's a mixture of spoon and BLW. I've always followed his cues wih how much to give and I firmly believe waiting until 6 months meant that he was clearly able to indicate when he was full. He wouldn't have been able to do this at 4 months.

I agree that comments such as "it never did me any harm" are quite dangerous as research, nutrition and healthcare have all changed in the last 20, 30 or 40 years. Doing your own research and making an informed decision is a much safer option as you are armed with real facts rather than anecdotal experience.

Unless there is a real health reason like reflux, I genuinely do not understand the need to wean pre-6 months. Babies technically don't need food until 12 months, give or take, as someone else mentioned food is complimentary so it doesn't make sense to me to give them something they don't need. Just up their milk. I recognise this is easy for me to say and every mother knows their child best but, like Starlight, I don't really understand it.




Also, this is how I should have out it but with a 9 month old and a 2 year old my typing skills are limited lol.
 
I think everyone on this thread who has said that they are weaning pre-6months means that they are giving puréed veg.

I can say that my LO confirmed that I was doing the right thing today by getting over excited when he saw his pee purée and shoved his hands straight in. He is also insistent on feeding himself his bottle and is now drinking 10oz more a day than he had been as he seems to have found his excitement again.

I think that we don't give the human body enough credit. Surely if a baby wasn't ready to swallow puréed veg it would spit it back out and by swallowing, they are showing that they are capable of what you are offering them?

Also I think the sad thing is is that so many medical studies are released around the world about a wide variety of things that it can take the NHS a while to catch up due to all the processes they have to go through. This morning there was a feature on the news that a new study has found that BF doesn't prevent against allergies any better than FF yet when asked what the NHS's view was it was a case of they have to investigate further which is fine, but it may take years, if they decide to investigate at all.

Back to "weaning" my baby. I was horrified 3weeks ago when my MIL was telling me to start weaning and actually fell out with her. It was only a combination of watching my baby's cues and realising his enthusiasm for feeding had totally dropped off that I decided to be more open minded and look beyond what the NHS might be saying. As has been said, we all know our babies best and that really should trump the average consensus of a study which we don't know the norm group of. I'm not saying the NHS are wrong, but not every child will be that average child in the study which brought them to their conclusion.

Also, as a side note, the children who they researched for the current guidelines were probably raised slightly differently to our babies as (I think) the majority of mums now avoid sugar and cook their own foods etc but I wonder what proportion of babies were fed jars and got soft drinks and did that lead to their eating problems now or was it the fact the were fed from a spoon?? Sorry, I just can't believe that feeding a baby with a spoon will make it fat!
 
I've been following this thread but haven't commented but thought I would now. In regards to various studies that have carried out, it's worth thinking about who has carried them out. I don't want to start another discussion but just as an example the doctor who 'found' the link between mmr and autism was totally discredited and his lincence was revoked but a lot to people still believe his findings. I think if you trawl the internet you will find something that agrees with your way of thinking.
I don't think there is a wrong time to start weaning just as there isn't a right or wrong way to feed your baby milk (ff, b/f).
I think that as long as your doing what you feel is best for your baby surely that's the right thing to do.
 
I ultimately believe it depends on your baby. My son weaned between 4 and 5 months old, he was ready I believe, he was a big boy and could sit up unaided and had hand eye coordination my hv told me to wean him also . But on the flip side my daughter wasn't ready until just recently at 6.5 months. My hv kept pressuring me to wean saying I've only got 3 months til she needs to be on 3 meals and having 500mls of milk. I'll be quite honest I've lost faith in the NHS after the way my family's been treated over the last 12 months so I go on my baby now and lily still isn't very interested in food, she has severe reflux too so we thought it may help her to wean but she only really wants her milk so we're going to do it in her time. Babies can be so different I think you just have to go on your instinct really. The guidelines change so much all the time. It was completely different when my son was born and he's only 4. When I was a baby my mum started weaning me at 6 weeks but that was 23 years ago, I couldn't imagine weaning either of my babies at 6 weeks xxx
 
It's all about risk. Before 6 months, there is a risk that food will harm your baby's gut and cause problems in later life. It may or may not happen. After 6 months, there is no risk of this happening. Personally, I am not willing to take that risk on my baby's health - especially when there's no need for them to have anything other than milk before then anyway.

I couldn't have put it better myself. In my opinion, this risk supersedes any other thoughts about 'the baby appearing ready', 'the baby being able to sit up', 'the baby getting excited and wolfing down food'. You simply cannot know whether a baby's digestive track is developed enough to cope with food, so why would you risk it when NHS guidelines recommend waiting until around six months for this very reason? Of course, there is a study out there which supports every individual's point of view, but this is a guideline from the NHS website, which is the first website I consult when looking for reliable information.

I just don't understand why anyone would take risks when it comes down to their baby's health for the sake of waiting a few extra weeks? They don't need anything other than milk at that stage!
 
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It's not as simple as that though is it. The age of a baby isn't exact because of due dates versus birth dates. Babies are sometimes born weeks and weeks prematurely. Or 2 weeks late. There's no magic 6 month line to cross.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/solid-foods-weaning.aspx

Plus tell me on here where it says absolutely no weaning before 6 months because it's dangerous?
 
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'Research shows that babies need nothing but breast milk or formula for the first six months of life. This gives their digestive system time to develop fully so that it can cope with solid foods'

This is the excerpt from the NHS website. You're right there is no magic line to cross but to start weaning a full 2 months before the 6 month mark is a huuuuge difference - it's a third of the baby's life!
 
The "research shows that babies need nothing but breast milk or formula for the first six months of life" is all it says though.

The page also says you should wean "around 6months" and lists the 3 signs that a baby is ready which I take to mean that these skills may come before or after the 6month mark. I think the swallowing food sign is the most important as surely their bodies would reject food?

I found a website that said that weaning before 6months should be classed as "tasting liquids" to prepare for solids rather than "eating solids" as all they are having is liquidised veg x
 
The "research shows that babies need nothing but breast milk or formula for the first six months of life" is all it says though.

The page also says you should wean "around 6months" and lists the 3 signs that a baby is ready which I take to mean that these skills may come before or after the 6month mark. I think the swallowing food sign is the most important as surely their bodies would reject food?

I found a website that said that weaning before 6months should be classed as "tasting liquids" to prepare for solids rather than "eating solids" as all they are having is liquidised veg x

Your quote isn't 'all it says'! You've just chopped the quote I stated in half and missed out the bit about a baby's developing digestive system!

In my first post, I also said 'around six months' but those who are weaning at 4 months are not doing it 'around 6 months'. I don't think ability to swallow food is the best first indicator of readiness for weaning. If a baby is able to swallow at 12 weeks, that doesn't mean he is ready as research suggests his digestive system is still too immature.
 
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Its like another big debate!


Do what you want! Its YOUR baby!!!
I weaned Noah from 4ms. Hes fine. I'll probs do the same again.
 
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'Research shows that babies need nothing but breast milk or formula for the first six months of life. This gives their digestive system time to develop fully so that it can cope with solid foods'

This is the excerpt from the NHS website. You're right there is no magic line to cross but to start weaning a full 2 months before the 6 month mark is a huuuuge difference - it's a third of the baby's life!

Now show me where I've said I support weaning at 4 months?! :eh:
 
It irritates me slightly when a post from a mother asking for advice on something that she is unsure of or worried about turns into a debate over who is right and wrong. There will always be differing opinions and there will usually be a trial or bit of research to support each of those opinions. Other than a few vital things like ensuring your child is cared for sufficiently and loved there isn't necessarily a hard and fast right or wrong answer to most of these questions.

My advice would just be do your own research but at the end of the day go with your gut as you know your baby best. X
 
The reason the nhs states "around 6 months" is that there is an actual physical change which occurs in the digestive system. Before this change happens, baby's cannot digest this food properly. It happens sometime between 4 and 6 months, but has definitely occured by 6 months. As we cant see inside our babies, the advice is to wait until we know it definitely has happened. So i personally don't really understand the whole "i know my baby best " view as yes obviously mother knows best, but you simply cannot know whether this physical change has happened.
 
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Surely if it goes in one end and out the other and baby doesnt seem unwell from a few mouthfuls of pureed fruit and veg then im sure all is fine.


Best people stick to what they find happy and not moan or judge when another mother decides to do something different.

There will always be judgement unfortunately.


The same with co sleeping, not co sleeping, controlled crying, running to ur baby at the 1st sign of a whinge, ff V bf, weaning earlier than 6 months, giving sips of water before 6 months ( which i did and someone On here told me was harmful, even tho ur body is mostly sodding water and mws & hvs advised to), BLW, disposable nappies or reusable, vaccines or no vaccines, calpol or no calpol!

THE LIST IS ENDLESS!!!!! And it bores the shit outta me that people feel the need to judge someone elses parental decisions with their children.


Get a grip!
 
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I don't think anyone has been judged on this thread? Just different povs from both sides in a healthy debate?
 
Dont see anything 'healthy' about this debate..

Its bickering back and forth! Which will just lead on to 36382 pages of the same bickering. The same research being repeated.

Mothers who wish to wean from 4 months, fine.
Mothers who wish to wean from 6 months, fine.

What more is there to debate about! Whats be said is said and i dnt see how repeating the same stuff people have already said on page 2 & 3 on page 6 and onwards is going to help the OP!!?
 
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Its not bickering? its posting research/experience/ advice to help mums make informed choices.
 

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