Yeah I have looked at the ovulation calenders which is a bit pointless seen as though my cycles are different lengths d'oh! Just don't know whether I want to go down the route of temping and stuff, worried it would take the fun out of it. As for cm, cp and all the rest I wouldn't have a clue were to start, when I had my little boy it just happened, didn't have symptoms or anything, having loads now that i'm not pregnant though!