The Emotions of IVF - First Cycle Almost Done x

Right so I'm really really stressed, so scared I'm gonna mess up these injections. I've got 3 that I can see, puregon with injection pen, menopur and centrotide,anyone else had this combination? I can just about deal with the puregon but what's all this mixing you have to do for the menopur? Just watched a demo looks confusing. Also does it all need to be in fridge? Mine is cos it's hot here in Tenerife, there was doubts from the net that menopur shud be in fridge but I've just translated the instructions and it says to refrigerate. Do u know in what order I will take them? And is the trigger shot something different? I'm so scared of it going wrong and the language barrier doesn't help one bit x
 
I was on a short protocol - I started Gonal F injections on 8th March and Egg Retrieval was on 25th March. I was on contraceptive pills for almost 3 weeks before the injections tho.

I had Cetrotide but not the other 2 - my Cetrotide was not kept in the fridge and I started that 5 days after the Gonal F. I looked each of the injections up on google to see what they were for. Don't worry Gemma you'll be fine I was nervous too but you soon get the hang of it.

I think I will test on day of blood test as you suggested.

M x x
 
Gemmainthesun - I didn't have puregon or menopur, hopefully someone will come along who did. Looking online, they both appear to be stims - I just had one stim drug, Gonal F, which is similar to your Puregon. The way my protocol worked, I started with the stim drug, which makes the follicles grow, injecting daily from day 3. So I would think you will start with the puregon and menopur.

The cetrotide is to hold back ovulation while the follicles grow, so you hopefully get lots of eggs. So they normally monitor you and when you get anywhere near ovulation, they tell you to start cetrotide to hold it off while you stimulate some more. So at this point you'd normally be taking your stims AND the cetrotide.

When you get to the point where they are ready to go to egg collection, they will tell you to trigger. None of your three drugs are the trigger, they must be planning to give you it later. You won't need it until 36 hours before egg collection, so don't worry. The trigger shot contains the hormone HCG - mine was called Ovidrel. This is the last injection.

The instructions for Menopur says it can be kept at room temp or in the fridge. Room temp for drugs usually means about 20 degrees C, so I think you're wise to keep it in the fridge in a hot climate. I kept my Gonal F in the fridge once the pen was opened, even in the UK.

Was this where you saw the demo? What are you confused about? I haven't watched the demo, but i can and explain anything you're not sure about (I'm a nurse and deal with injections of lots of different drugs).

Let me know if I can help at all. It must be really daunting to have to learn a new skill like this without being taught in your native language! xx
 
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Aww thank you both so much, I've just checked and I've got ovidrel as well, think I'm just getting overwhelmed and I've not even opened the boxes so I can't tell exactly what's in there. My friend who's just had ivf here had gonal f instead of puregon, wonder why they have given us different?! Anyway she was on menopur so she has said she will come and talk me through that. I think I'm best taking one thing at a time. My cerotride is now in a cupboard in the cool room, I found the sheet they gave me and it isn't ticked to go in the fridge, it's been in the fridge for the last two weeks though do u think I would be best leaving it there or keeping it in the cupboard from now on? Thanks again everyone xxx
 
Morning Ladies

Something changed yesterday and now I more or less know 90% that this cycle hasn't worked.

My AF would be due on Monday, since I started the Gonal F injections my boobs and nipples have been so sore I couldn't lie on my front, when the embryos where put back in my boobs continued to be really sore but I had no other signs to say anything had worked so I put the sore boobs down to the progesterone.

Whilst on the Progestorone gel I have been having white discharge it's what happens when your on the gel and is completely normal (TMI coming....) but yesterday the pain in my boobs disappeared literally overnight and now I'm getting brown bits mixed in with the white pessary discharge.

i wiped this morning and there was some light watery red on the tissue. I immediately burst into tears and ran into the bedroom to tell my husband I think my period has started, whilst crying hysterically.

My hubby said "the nurse told us it is normal to get some bleeding, so all this could be normal, please try and stay positive" but I know my body and I know what it is doing. I feel fine, no pain, no nausea, no sore boobs, I'm not tired, my appetite hasn't increased, I just feel normal.

I don't want to sit here convincing myself it has worked and this COULD be normal cause all the signs are telling me it is not.

I'm going to wait until tommorow night and monitor things and part of me is thinking if it is the start of AF, just come now so I can have some closure on this situation as I'm fed up of COULDs and MAYBEs.

Sorry this one is a bit of a rant but I'm so upset this morning and if it hasent worked i want my life back as everything is just on hold till we test on Saturday. I could feel something wasn't right as soon as I woke up. Usually leading up to AF my boobs hurt then the day the bleeding starts the boob pain goes so that's more or less what has happened here. Also when I'm coming on I have dose myself up on pain relief because I ge crippling cramps when im on and if I don't catch the pain before it gets really bad it's not good so if I am coming on I need to start taking pain relief.

I will keep you posted. Just want closure now, it's all getting a bit much.

So sorry to rant ladies, but I know you will understand the frustration

Nick Nack xx
 
Aww Nick nack so sorry for you. But if the nurse told you it could happen then maybe it's just that. I know u dont Luke the not knowing and u dont want to clutch at straws. I don't know enough on it to advise u or disagree with u so just wanted to say I am thinking of u and I hope to God it's just a spot of bleeding and your embie is hanging on in there. Until test day or you come on properly I don't think u will know for certain though unfortunately. Xxx
 
Awww Nick Nack I'm so sorry Hun but agree with Gemm and your hubby... My nurse also told me after transfer that spotting and even bleeding are common in early pregnancy so even if I get both before test day to still test. Try to keep your hopes up as that could implantation bleed - I read on one of my google searches that implantation can happen anywhere between days 4-11 after ET. Fingers crossed its not AF Hun x x x
 
Hey hun I'm not trying to get your hopes up but please don't count yourself out yet. It's way too early for symptoms so just because you don't have any dont worry. When I got my bfp I didn't feel any different and it's only in the last week or so that boobs have got sore. I also thought af was coming as remember having some light something or other in wiping so assumed was period but it wasn't.

I know it's an awfully hard journey but your not out yet.

I hope everything works out for you xx
 
I agree with the others, don't count yourself out yet. The progesterone throws off all the symptoms anyway, so no point in spotting. It wasn't until the night before I tested that I had any symptom I thought was positive.

Fx for you xxx
 
Really hope you are wrong hun, and that you get a bfp soon.

Michelle. x
 
Hi Ladies, thank you so much for the positive words..however AF has officially come to visit. TMI but the bleeding is really really heavy along with really intense cramps.

Spent most of today crying, hubby has been great and given me lots of hugs snd encouraging words. Now I just feel mentally and emotionally drained but glad I have closure. Part of me feels like I gave up hope in the last week and just could feel in my bones that it had not worked.

I'm gonna ring the clinic tommorow to discuss the options but I think I need a break before starting again. I have 3 frosties waiting for me so fingers crossed the future NickNack is in that batch!!

Thank you ladies for being so amazingly supportive and sending lots of well wishes.

I'm turning 30 in a few weeks so think I'm gonna treat myself to a cocktail or 3!!! Feel like life has been on hold for so long need to live a little before we start round 2.

Lots of Love NickNack xxxxxxxxxx
 
I'm so sorry hun I can only imagine how heartbreaking it is. I hope like you say your future baby is in the frozen ones. I'm positive everyone gets there in the end some just have longer journeys.

I think it's good to treat yourself to a few cocktails and some nice treats.

X
 
Nick nack so sorry to hear, I did hope u was wrong but we do tend to know our own bodies. At least u have the fet, so no more needles and collection. Have a great 30th, spend a few months on yourself, I know it's hard but I personally know about 6 people who hav had ivf and I think 4 out of the 6 was pregnant 2nd time, 1 was pregnant 1st time and 1 4th, with twins. I don't know anyone yet who it hasn't worked for eventually, u have shown u produce good eggs, get good fertilization, it will work for u soon. Again so sorry for u it's ok to be upset as well, it will happen one day for us all xxx
 
Thank You Ladies, it was more heartbreaking seeing how upset my mum and dad were that it didn't work as they have been there for me every step of the way. They came to all my appointments that my hubby couldn't make and my dad didn't go on a holiday so he could be here to support us! They don't put pressure on me to give them a grandchild but deep down I know how much they want it and how amazing they will be at it I just want to give them that!! It's so hard.

I called the clinic this morning and despite me telling them I've come on they still want me to continue with the progesterone and test on Saturday! As they said some woman have what they think is a period then it turns out thier pregnant! I wanted to scream..."stop trying to give false hope, I know it's AF! And I'm cool with that, can we just move in please!!" but I'm gonna be good and follow the rules. Lol (just being a brat!)

But I'm fine, excited to try again after my birthday! Xxx
 
I am so so sorry that you are going through this nicknack. It brought a tear to my eye when I read your last post about your parents being upset it's lovely that they are supportive for you.
Thinking about you x
 
Sorry it wasn't good news Nick nack :hugs:

xxxx
 
It's true, ltttc affects the families too, it's so hard I really want to give my mum and dad grandkids and especially to make my nanna a great gran, that would be amazing. Xx
 
I feel just the same my mum is so supportive but i know it breaks her heart to think it might not happen for us.

Michelle. x
 

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