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with all the controversy surrounding the mmr jab.. just wondering if anyone is gonna refrain from giving to their child.

I know i will let baby have mmr jab.
 
My friends who already have little ones have all let their children have it.

We all had it and it didn't seem to do us any harm. I think the effects of the diseases can be a lot worse than the risks they believe are involved now.

I think I read somewhere that if little boys contract mumps when they are young it can make them infertile??

surely it's better to have the jab?
 
Dior had hers done, i have heard people saying things about it but i dont no any thing??? what are the bad things about it?
 
Found this for you Dionne, long winded but hope it helps. It weighs up the negative and positive effects of having the combined MMR.

MMR vaccine is a three part vaccine, given by injection, which is to protect (immunise) against Measles, Mumps and German Measles (Rubella). In the UK it is given to children at 12 to 15 months, with a reinforcing dose (a booster) before school, usually between 3 and 5 years.

Reasons for having the inoculation

The most serious of these, as far as how ill the child gets, is Measles, but all of them can have serious and even fatal complications. In the case of German Measles the major worry is that of risk to the unborn baby if caught by a woman during early pregnancy. Mumps too can have serious affects, and affect male fertility, when caught after puberty.

These conditions are still common on a world-wide basis. In countries like the UK, where the take-up rate of immunisations is high, the actual occurrence of the conditions becomes rare. It is not, however, possible to stop immunisation, because of the high level of the conditions elsewhere in the world, and the volume of international travel.

It is true that the amount that a disease occurs (the incidence) will reduce once a certain percentage of the population has been inoculated. This is called "herd immunity". It is possible for some individuals to depend on this and avoid having the vaccine themselves. This is, however, selfish and if everybody had that attitude, the diseases would remain widespread.

Side effects
Anything we take into our body can have side effects. Medicines, and in this case MMR vaccine, are no exception, but vaccines are among the safest medicines.

The commonest side effects are similar to a mild version of one of the viruses involved, and not very different to the measles vaccine which was previously used. The child may be generally less vigorous, have a slight fever and possibly a rash, most often about a week after the immunisation and lasting about two or three days. Swelling of the glands in the cheeks, as seen in mumps, may happen about three weeks after the injection in about 1 in 100 cases.

Occasionally more serious events, such as convulsions, occur. This happens in about 1 in 1000 cases, six to eleven days after the injection. If your child develops worrying side effects you should contact your doctor.

Other conditions where a link with MMR Vaccine has been suggested
Asthma
Asthma has been linked, by some studies, with MMR vaccine, but the current view of the experts (epidemiologists) is that there is no strong evidence to support this.

Guillain-Barré syndrome
Guillain-Barré Syndrome is a rare condition of the nervous system which causes acute paralysis. There is strong evidence that this is not brought about by by measles vaccination, which was a worry previously expressed by some people.

(Ref: de Silveira C M, Salisbury D M, de Quadros C A. Measles Vaccination and Guillain-Barré Syndrome. The Lancet 1997: 349, 14-16.)

Crohn's Disease
Crohn's Disease is a chronic inflammatory disease of the bowels. Many factors have been linked to this illness. Some research has been published which suggests a possible link between measles vaccine and Crohn's Disease.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) has apparently rejected this work, as have many other experts in the field. Independent researchers have not been able to confirm the link, which is what the scientific community would expect in order to accept it. The National Association for Colitis and Crohn's has looked at the evidence and supports the two dose MMR programme in the UK.

Autism
Autism is a condition which leads to delayed speech and communication and intellectual impairment, which is usually diagnosed in the second year of life. Research in Sweden shows that the number of cases of Autism diagnosed did not rise after the introduction of the MMR vaccine.

Subacute Sclerosing Panencephalitis
Subacute Sclerosing Panencephalitis (SSPE) is a rare condition which causes degeneration of the nervous system some years after a natural infection with measles. It leads to brain damage and death. This is a rare complication of measles (1 in 8000 who catch it under two years old) and comes on after about eight years.

The evidence is that the number of people with SSPE has fallen dramatically since the introduction of measles vaccine in the UK in the 1960s. ie that the measles component of the MMR vaccine directly protects against this terrible condition.

(Ref: Miller C Farrington C P, Herbert K. The epidemiology of subacute sclerosing panencephalitis in England and Wales, 1970 to 1989. International Journal of Epidemiology. 1992; 21: 998-1006.)

Allergy to eggs
If your child is strongly allergic to eggs you should mention it to your doctor. The administration of the vaccine (which has eggs involved in its production) has been proved to be safe, even in such cases, but your doctor may prefer the injection to be given as a day case at the hospital, if there is any doubt.

(Ref: James J M, Burks A W, Robertson P K, Sampson H A. Safe administration of the measles vaccine to children allergic to eggs. New England Journal of Medicine; 1995; 332:19,1262-1266.)

Weighing up the risks versus the benefits
Nothing in life is without risk, but here the balance, for most people, is in favour of having the MMR Vaccine. It not only protects the patient, but also unborn babies. Complications
Risk after natural disease Risk after first dose of MMR

Fits (convulsions) 1 in 200 1 in 1000

Meningitis / encephalitis 1 in 200 to 1 in 5000 1 in 1000000

Conditions affecting the clotting of the blood 1 in 3000 1 in 24000

Severe allergic response (anaphylaxis) - 1 in 100000

Deaths 1 in 8000 to 1 in 10000 (depends on age) 0

Some children are at particular risk from a measles infection and should have the MMR vaccine (or measles vaccine in countries where only that is available). Children with:

Cystic Fibrosis
Congenital heart disease
Kidney disease
Downs syndrome
Poor growth
Also children, from one year of age, who are in residential care or day care.
 
Both my girls have had their jab and so will this baby :D xx
 
I had it, and im going to let my baby have it
 
I was considering the seperate jabs for Ella but after seeing how upset she got having her first ones I don't think I can put her through it when there is no evidence to back up the autism claims.
It is something we've discussed quite a lot but she will definately be having it as I'd hate for her to contract the diseases or pass them on to the very vulnerable.
 
both mine have had it ( aged 10 & 4 ) & so will this baby, it is scary though coz you hear lots of horror stories regarding autism.

the bizzare thing is 2 months after giving it to josh my 4 yr old, we ended up in hosp with him coz he had mumps!! i couldn't believe it, his neck swelled up like the elephant mans & it was sooo scary, he was only 18 months old.

luckily he stayed clear in the downstairs dept (willy :oops: ) so docs said he is at no risk of infertility when hes older.
he was treated with antibiotics & is fine now, bless him.
 
Jess has had hers and Aimee and this baby will too.
 
I went seperate with Mason, he needed his jab at the time when it was all headline news.
I went for the seperate ones, not really because I thought that there was anything wrong with the combined, but because I am a worrier anyway and would rather pay my money and get a good nights sleep than lie awake all night worrying that I had made a big mistake.

This time round, I think I'll go combined for Brody, now there's new evidence that the autism claims are unfounded, I feel more at ease about it.

If anyone is REALLY worried about it and you can afford it, I would say go seperate because I know what it's like to worry about stuff like that...at the time all my friends were worried they'd done the wrong thing, but I was fine :)
 

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