He's not starving at all. I think it's the heat coupled with a growth spurt. The worst thing is his scream. It's so loud and shrill it hurts your ears. Even Debbies sister who has three of her own was shocked at how loud he was today. There is just no way to escape it when you're in the house. We can't leave him to cry for too long or we'd end up deaf. Seriously, we've both had tinnitus like symptoms after a screaming session inthe past.
I've Had Enough This Week.... :(
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Hey matt and Debbie!
The 4 month spurt coupled with this heat at the moment is going to make Luke feel like crap! Have you guys got a fan in your room on him - may help cool him a bit, and I remeber all too well the not-being-able-to-walk-out-of-the-room moments. It was just pure screams when i did it, but me being a meanie i let her howl because i didnt want her to think i was running everytime she screamed. I felt the same way you did and omg when she started one day i had to put her in her room and let her scream becaue it left me shaking, it really got to me and i couldnt do anything for her. It was a case of shove a bottle in her mouth and get her to sleep pronto!
I couldnt get anything done either and in the end, it stressed me out and she wanted constant attention and bottles etc. She drove me nuts!
I guess what im trying to ramble is it will pass, they really get clingy at this stage and coupled with his heat its guna make him really miserable. Both my kds are not loving it either. I dont think hes starving as put earlier but is he really wanting booby loads?or os it a comfort thing? why not get some toys out and play with him, or put him in a bouncer o a swing and put something in his hands and give him something to explore - try and leave him sometimes Debbie, i know hes a lil man but dont let him rule your life. If he crys leave him for a few mins - he may settle down and get on with playing.
I completely sympthise with you though and sorry you and matt are having a hard time. I weaned at 4 months but i just do anyway, i dont think Luke does and I know you wont anyway. You will get past this soon - it will feel like it taking forever though!
Il shut up now lol
The 4 month spurt coupled with this heat at the moment is going to make Luke feel like crap! Have you guys got a fan in your room on him - may help cool him a bit, and I remeber all too well the not-being-able-to-walk-out-of-the-room moments. It was just pure screams when i did it, but me being a meanie i let her howl because i didnt want her to think i was running everytime she screamed. I felt the same way you did and omg when she started one day i had to put her in her room and let her scream becaue it left me shaking, it really got to me and i couldnt do anything for her. It was a case of shove a bottle in her mouth and get her to sleep pronto!
I couldnt get anything done either and in the end, it stressed me out and she wanted constant attention and bottles etc. She drove me nuts!
I guess what im trying to ramble is it will pass, they really get clingy at this stage and coupled with his heat its guna make him really miserable. Both my kds are not loving it either. I dont think hes starving as put earlier but is he really wanting booby loads?or os it a comfort thing? why not get some toys out and play with him, or put him in a bouncer o a swing and put something in his hands and give him something to explore - try and leave him sometimes Debbie, i know hes a lil man but dont let him rule your life. If he crys leave him for a few mins - he may settle down and get on with playing.
I completely sympthise with you though and sorry you and matt are having a hard time. I weaned at 4 months but i just do anyway, i dont think Luke does and I know you wont anyway. You will get past this soon - it will feel like it taking forever though!
Il shut up now lol
I feel like crap 
I got stressed at Luke again last night because I honestly cannot handle his scream (you really have to hear it), and I ended up sobbing myself to sleep. I feel so miserable. I'm convinced Matt thinks I am a bad Mum now too.
I got stressed at Luke again last night because I honestly cannot handle his scream (you really have to hear it), and I ended up sobbing myself to sleep. I feel so miserable. I'm convinced Matt thinks I am a bad Mum now too.
have you got a bit of pnd hun because you sound just like i was when i was told i had it, little things started turning into big things and getting to me more that they should have (not sying your problems are little things) hannah was scraeming all the time and driving me insain but once i got the medication i needed and calmed down myself hannah calmed down too and virtually turned into a different baby and the hv said she was picking up on my moods, i might be wrong but its worth a thought 
I thought my LO had the worst cry/scream ever. She sounds like a magpie and it is horrible. Given herself a sore throat and croaky voice this week. It does wear your nerves down loads....OH brought home some ear plugs from work (the foam kind) and sometimes we put those in when she is just crying for nothing ( well she thinks it is for a reason ie. being carried around all day) and it really helps. YOu can still hear her a bit but it doesn't wind me up as much.
I don't know what to advise because it does get better but then it gets worse and then it gets better etc. I think for us it is mainly (with the exception of teething) before any big milestones when they are frustrated with their limitations. Our little girl was like that before sitting (around 4 months) then again before crawling (7 months...this one was worse than the 4 month one tbh), then at 9 months major clingy/separation anxiety kicks in, then now before walking she can get around loads but of course wants to be carried.
It doesn't really stop BUT I have started to feel loads better about letting her cry when she is just being silly which I couldn't really do when she was younger. I don't have much advice except to say what it is like a few months further down the road. It is more that you have to find a surviving strategy so regardless what they go through, you can manage.
I don't know what to advise because it does get better but then it gets worse and then it gets better etc. I think for us it is mainly (with the exception of teething) before any big milestones when they are frustrated with their limitations. Our little girl was like that before sitting (around 4 months) then again before crawling (7 months...this one was worse than the 4 month one tbh), then at 9 months major clingy/separation anxiety kicks in, then now before walking she can get around loads but of course wants to be carried.
It doesn't really stop BUT I have started to feel loads better about letting her cry when she is just being silly which I couldn't really do when she was younger. I don't have much advice except to say what it is like a few months further down the road. It is more that you have to find a surviving strategy so regardless what they go through, you can manage.
If he is crying due to the heat, maybe you could try a small paddling pool. I know you cant keep him in there all day but even if it cools him down and stops the screaming for a half hour it will be worth it,
Also dont feel bad about having to give Luke solids early, these guidelines are just that, guidelines, every child is different. I have been a parent for 21 years now, and the guidelines change all the time.......when my older kids were small you were advised to wean from 4 months, now its 6......next week it will probably be something different
You are Lukes mum and you know him best and if you think he needs solids give him some and dont waste time feeling guilty because of some silly guideline, I am defo going to be weaning Theo earlier than 6 months, and I refuse to let any silly health visitor
who dosent even know my son tell me different
Also dont feel bad about having to give Luke solids early, these guidelines are just that, guidelines, every child is different. I have been a parent for 21 years now, and the guidelines change all the time.......when my older kids were small you were advised to wean from 4 months, now its 6......next week it will probably be something different
You are Lukes mum and you know him best and if you think he needs solids give him some and dont waste time feeling guilty because of some silly guideline, I am defo going to be weaning Theo earlier than 6 months, and I refuse to let any silly health visitor
who dosent even know my son tell me different Debbie, Cally is the same. Her four month spurt seems to be lasting quite a while and it isn't helping with this heat as she wants a quick feed frequently, not becuase she is starving but because she is thirsty. I have been carrying her more in her sling lately which helps me get things done but in this heat its not an ideal solution. They also say that just before a maor growth spurt baby also develops very quickly mentally, and can be a bit overwhelmed by his world, so wants mum there for reassurance. At this age he still doesn't really understand that you and him are seperate so when he wants consoling etc he expects it there and then.
I completely sympathise with the crying, Seren had the loudest angriest scream ever, I used to feel so embarrassed when she did cry and everyone would look at me.
I completely sympathise with the crying, Seren had the loudest angriest scream ever, I used to feel so embarrassed when she did cry and everyone would look at me.
DebbieM said:I feel like crap
I got stressed at Luke again last night because I honestly cannot handle his scream (you really have to hear it), and I ended up sobbing myself to sleep. I feel so miserable. I'm convinced Matt thinks I am a bad Mum now too.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't hun...
My mum tells a story of when I was a baby and wouldn't sleep... she put me down and let me cry.. apparently I cried for over 3 hours and she was just sat on the stairs in tears... my dad comes in, picks me up, I stop crying, he puts me down, and goes to sleep... Didn't mean that my mother was a bad mum... its just babies are babies and sometimes, they want things that they cannot correctly express. Lil miss doesn't have a shrill cry although she has mastered the warble... that just melts your heart and makes you feel so evil for letting her cry. And I admit, I give in and pick her up..its wrong...but I can't help it... I'm soft on my girls...
While the guidelines say 6 months for weaning there are kids who need weaning before that time and thats fine... but only if you LO needs it... this is the wrong time of year because night waking is more than likely to be because of thirst... I wake up thirsty so why shouldn't my child.. she is human after all... I didn't want to wean lil miss but did so under our paediatricians guidance to help her reflux... its never helped her sleep better, thats a complete myth.
Debbie your doing just fine, he honestly doesn't sound like he needs weaning but that hes hot and bored, tired and grumpy.... The first baby is such a shock to the system... you love them, want to make them happy... but they have little personalities and I want tantrums start earlier than you think... once you've been through the terrible twos you gain some immunity to the tears... the only reason they make babies so sweet and cute and wonderful is so you don't kill them...
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sorry i didnt see this last night debs ,of all things my laptop has died and i didnt get your text till 10.30 when brian phoned and i thought if there was a small chance u where napping i didnt want to wake u ! brians just logged me on to his pc ( why he has to keep it locked from me anyway i dont know ? )
u so now im going through the same thing , and as i asked for advice ive got nothing to say but hugs and lots of them too ! could u take barney out today and leave luke with matt and a bottle of expressed ( have u caught upo since out trip lolo ) brians going to take leland with him , his got to go argos to get his 6 month bday pressy ( an outdoor swing) his also got to go tesco (hahaha his never done it on his own with leland !) and to pick up our video monitor which has hopefully been fixed from a friend !!! i dont think brians ever been out with leland on his own so could be fun !
these boys are certainly trying us mummies , heart breaking really when we love them so much , i to have shouted , and his usualy so shocked he laughs at me !
right i got to go pack the changing bag for brians trip lol
be on msn soon if ur aboput!
u so now im going through the same thing , and as i asked for advice ive got nothing to say but hugs and lots of them too ! could u take barney out today and leave luke with matt and a bottle of expressed ( have u caught upo since out trip lolo ) brians going to take leland with him , his got to go argos to get his 6 month bday pressy ( an outdoor swing) his also got to go tesco (hahaha his never done it on his own with leland !) and to pick up our video monitor which has hopefully been fixed from a friend !!! i dont think brians ever been out with leland on his own
so could be fun ! these boys are certainly trying us mummies , heart breaking really when we love them so much , i to have shouted , and his usualy so shocked he laughs at me !
right i got to go pack the changing bag for brians trip lol
be on msn soon if ur aboput!
Thanks everyone.
OK, I honestly don't think he needs weaning. He is happy after his boob and I did say to Matt that in this heat we drink all the time so why shouldn't he and that he might just need some foremilk which is thirst quenching and not need the hind milk to fill him. I thought about some cooled boiled water for when we are out and about for ease but then if that ruins exclusive BFing, I don't want to do it. I don't see how it does ruin it as water isn't going to help him grow but I don't know...
I have nothing expressed Gem. I've not wanted to express (or needed to) whilst he is like this. I haven't had the time to be honest and can't be arsed. LOL
I REALLY don't want to wean before 6 months and hope I won't have a need to. IF I did, then of course I would. I wouldn't leave my boy starving because I have a goal in mind.
Thinking about it more, I do think it is a mixture of a horrible growth spurt and the heat. The heat has been hard on us all and he was more settled last night in the bedroom with the Air Con on all night so it was very cool. Perhaps too cool but he didn't seem to mind. He slept better so that's something - even if he did end up in bed with us from 5am.
It's a new day so I'm going to try and be more positive and perhaps even try and laugh through the screams.
We are off to Milton Keynes to either Gullivers or Woburn for a day out so wish us luck
OK, I honestly don't think he needs weaning. He is happy after his boob and I did say to Matt that in this heat we drink all the time so why shouldn't he and that he might just need some foremilk which is thirst quenching and not need the hind milk to fill him. I thought about some cooled boiled water for when we are out and about for ease but then if that ruins exclusive BFing, I don't want to do it. I don't see how it does ruin it as water isn't going to help him grow but I don't know...
I have nothing expressed Gem. I've not wanted to express (or needed to) whilst he is like this. I haven't had the time to be honest and can't be arsed. LOL
I REALLY don't want to wean before 6 months and hope I won't have a need to. IF I did, then of course I would. I wouldn't leave my boy starving because I have a goal in mind.
Thinking about it more, I do think it is a mixture of a horrible growth spurt and the heat. The heat has been hard on us all and he was more settled last night in the bedroom with the Air Con on all night so it was very cool. Perhaps too cool but he didn't seem to mind. He slept better so that's something - even if he did end up in bed with us from 5am.
It's a new day so I'm going to try and be more positive and perhaps even try and laugh through the screams.
We are off to Milton Keynes to either Gullivers or Woburn for a day out so wish us luck
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Aw hun. I would say it's 99% the heat as green bean is the same. Thankfully he's not as bad at night as he's in DD's room and she soothes him back to sleep bless her. He isn't sleeping as long though. And he is wearing only a vest at night and it's a 2 to 2.5 year sized one so it is nice and loose (although not as loose as it should be!) I've also been there with the weaning debate and have come up with a solution that works for us... I've bought some of those mesh feeders...
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Sorry on mobile so had to post...
I give him some stewed carrot or something in there. He actually doesn't get anything through the mesh he just loves chewing on it and the texture in his mouth. His favourite is apple but only cooked ever so slightly. It's a good compromise for me as he's not actually eating but it's preparing him and it's new and exciting which is making him happy and giving me a break for 20 mins or so.
Huge hug hun xxx
I give him some stewed carrot or something in there. He actually doesn't get anything through the mesh he just loves chewing on it and the texture in his mouth. His favourite is apple but only cooked ever so slightly. It's a good compromise for me as he's not actually eating but it's preparing him and it's new and exciting which is making him happy and giving me a break for 20 mins or so.
Huge hug hun xxx
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aww debs u shoulda said , brians off today !!!
i dont see why water would effect exclusive breast feeding ? its not like your about to give him juice or something !
i dont see why water would effect exclusive breast feeding ? its not like your about to give him juice or something !
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Cooled water sips hun i think he's thirsty. Morgan will take a few sips really keenly and then be settled. Also a cooler water bath he loves this weather. I think they all have the grumps in this heat, its a shock to them. Definatly sips of water though.
Big hug hun, Chin up, its all part of the learnign curve that is baby.
Big hug hun, Chin up, its all part of the learnign curve that is baby.
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Very quickly.......;ets not turn this into a weaning debate becuase truthfull i get pissed off by it and im sure other people do as well.
Mat and debbie i hope you guys have a easy night sleep tonight!
Mat and debbie i hope you guys have a easy night sleep tonight!
