FOOKIN NEIGHBOURS...HOW DARE THEY..(RANT SORRY)

[rhian85]

OKAY....we wouldnt have the dog in for a few nights because she really is unable to control bladder and no matter how often she is bathed she really smells of urine and i mean realy smells (she is bathed 2-3 times a week)

BUT we wouldnt have her in the house not even for a few night s as we have a baby on the move and i dont think it would be very good for him if he came into contact with the dog or the urine.

she has been to the vets many times regarding the problem and has been on medication but it was so strong it was causing her to become agressive and drowsy...so the vet stopped it. we were told she would need extensive bladder/kidney surgery which would cost us thousands and it may not even work. we have tried to get her insured but as she had this problem b4 she came to us no insurance company will even consider it.

 

[enn]

such a shame...

 

[Tangerinedream]

I used to volunteer for the RSPCA. Just like any huge organisation, they have lovely, dedicated employees and total idiots. They are a charity which get no govenment funding but are relied upon by the gov (in various pieces of legislation). I think they do a great job and do not deserve such cruel comments.

 

[rhian85]

if the RSPCA are so good then why did they not inform us of this problem...? we asked if she had any medical conditions and were told NO however after a week of soggy carpets we rang the RSPCC rescue shelter in question and were told

"well bring her back if u dont like it, sasha had been with us for six years and many people have given her back to us...so we wont be offended if u dont want her"

AS IF we would do that, we took the complaint further to even try and get them to fund some of the surgery but were told if we dont like it bring her back.

sahsa had been very bedly beaten and starved b4 she spent 6 years in RSPCA...she may live outside but we have given her alot of love,effort and time..she gets 3 walks a day, fed 3 times a day gets to have a run around the feild at back of house everyday and gets played with every day as well as bathed 3 times a week, she has all her jabs on time and is very well cared 4.

 

[Rosieroo]

I don't think anyone has said that you don't care for Sasha, just that some agree with why your neighbours contacted the RSPCA with how things looked to them as outsiders. It sounds like you do a great job with her despite her urine problem.

The RSPCA were wrong for not telling you about Sasha's problems, however on the whole I personally think they do a very worthwhile job and save thousands of animals a year from unnecessary cruelty.

 

[beanie]

Why were they out of order though - they did the right thing. Yes ideally they should have spoken to Rhian but they obviously felt unable to, that doesn't make them bad people. My old dog was a right mangy looking thing at the end, he had a kidney problem and lost a lot of weight at the end and no doubt looked like he had been abused but if the RSPCA came round they would see that he was cared for and was recieving vertinary care. But I would have understood why someone would have called the RSPCA. Don't be angry with them, thank them for their concerns and explain that this is the reason why he is outside. I don't think confronting them is what they deserve.

I took a cat to the vets the one time as it came into my garden, was as thin as a rake and had blood coming out of its mouth. I got a right gobful from the owners saying that the cat was ill and it wasn't being abused but I would do the same again as what if the cat hadn't had a good home?

 

[Hypnorm]

The RSPCA are ignorant morons anyway, tis a well known fact especially in the rural world. There are plenty of other organsiations who actually know their arse from their elbow. Just check

out this website.....

http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion/

This link should be deleted.

The people were right in calling the RSPCA - in this day and age if you approach any one and criticise them you are liable to end up with a black eye or a mouthful of abuse, the people don't know you and were concerned about its welfare. And i can agree leaving a dog out in the fire works is negligent poor thing must have been terrified.

This thread could open lots of debates from various people.
Yes some people in the RSPCA really couldn't careless but there are lots in there that do great work. But i wouldnt put any money in their chartiy boxes.

RSPCA should have noticed that she was incontinent but they are kennelled so its not always that easy to spot it unless she is in a house.
You say that you have tried medication there are lots of things that can sort this including surgery.

The RSPCA could have picked up whether it was fair to keep a dog like this untreated.

 

[Lou]

I'm not a huge fan of the RSPCA. They treated my dog years ago and the treatment wasn't great. I was out of work so couldn't afford a vet and to be honest it taught me that if you can't afford animals then don't have them and if you do have them get them insured. Personally I would do anything rather than put an animal outside, especially this time of year. My mums dog was incontinent and she used to buy the puppy training pads for him to wee on. It wasn't much of a life for him though, animals don't like wetting themselves and smelling of urine. My mums dog was just suffering with old age but if there had been surgery available then he would have had it. You don't have to pay all at once with some vets, they offer schemes where you can pay bit by bit. My dog travis costs us thousands over the years with one illness or accident or another but when you love them like a child you would do anything to help them.

Lou

 

[foxred]

I'm not surprised you were upset when the RSPCA came round - yes they were 'just doing their job' and yes your neighbours probably meant well, but I can totally understand how hurt you must have been to have it implied that you were mistreating Sasha when you obviously care so much about her and have put so much time and effort into giving her a good home.... I would feel exactly the same if someone reported me to the RSPCA just because my dogs were in a kennel

RSPCA do good work (helping abused and neglected animals) and they do not such good work (releasing town foxes into the countryside covered in mange and unable to feed themselves coz they're used to scavenging in bins)

Also, some people have commented that it is wrong to keep a dog outside on fireworks night, both my dogs are kenelled outside (massive run, insulated kennel with underfloor heating, benches to sleep on, 2 hours of walks / runs a day etc etc) and were not remotely bothered about being outside on fireworks night - lots of them are a lot happier outside than in a house, mine included so bringing them inside on fireworks night would upset them more than leaving them where they were and checking on them regularly. I think you are doing the sensible thing keeping her outside, for her sake and your baby's.

I'm sure your neighbours didn;t mean to be malicious, maybe you could have a word with them and just say thank you for your concern, but my dog is very well cared for and happy - if you would like to meet her, feel free to come round etc. That way there is no bad feeling

 

[babydust]

have you tried getting pet insurance and not telling them about the urine problem? i know its not the right thing to do but it could make a huge difference to both you and your dogs life?
we had a really good vet when we had our fisrt dog he was only about a year old when the vet noticed he had a problem with the joint at his hip, the op would have cost us loads but she told us to take pet plan out and not say about her findings.
worth a try

 

[Hypnorm]

That won't work as often they will get your dogs history from your current vets so they will already have that on record.

 

[babydust]

our vet said she would help us by not saying what she found, but i know not every vet would do this and it is disshonest (sp) we are just so greatful that our vet did.

 

[cassi]

Sorry but I don't think they should be lambasted for what they did. I guess it must be horrible to have the RSPCA come out especially if you are such a good pet owner but I am glad there are people looking out for animals, too many people just turn a blind eye. The RSPCA would have seen that your dog was well cared for and would say so. I would rather someone called the RSPCA if they had any concerns about my animals as I know they are cared for, but if I was missing anyhting then I know they would give me advice. Plus like you said you have only been there for a month, your neighbours might not have known how to approach you.

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Agree completely, too many people out there dont care about animals so I will never shoot down someone who does,

 

[**C**]

The RSPCA are ignorant morons anyway,

is that the RSPCA as a whole or has an individual RSPCA officer pee'd you off and represented the entire force?

Not just me....I have a friend who works for the ILPH who have had to take horses away from the RSPCA rescue centres because the people who have been working on "neglect cases" haven't known what they're doing.....one lady had 2 of her elderly horses taken, with no notice or warning by them because they looked underweight.....old horses DO look underweight at times, but she'd been feeding them 5 times a day and caring for them in the correct way needed. RSPCA got them and changed their feed and one of them got a particularly nasty case of colic because of this, which could have been fatal. Luclikly ILPH sorted things out and the horses are back with the owner.

[quote="**C**":2wojxzv4]tis a well known fact especially in the rural world.

Is this the whole hunting/ shooting/farming argument? If so I live in the country please don't include me![/quote:2wojxzv4]

Not so much the hunting and shooting, but definitely the farming! My partner is a farmer and once an officer who was on his "rounds" tried to convince him that one of his cows was suffering from a nasty gastric condition and would have to be destroyed when it was actually calving

I'm sure they do a good job with the small animals, but with the large animals they don't even get any specialised training.

 

[monster_munch]

I can so understand how hurtful (and not to mention embarassing )it must have been to have the RSPCA turn up. Hopefully your neighbours were good intentionned and not malicious, but it really sounds like you are a responsible dog owner and have nothing to be worried/ashamed of.


I must say - a little off topic here, but as far as the RSPCA goes, I am not a huge fan as IMO they get too involved politically (for example hunting etc) and it seemed to me that if you donated, your money would go to them opposing fox hunting or some other thing, rather than actually saving animals.
This probably isn't strictly true, but it's enough to make me put my money elsewhere.

 

[lauramumof2]

If I had a problem or even a concern about a neighbours pet then I probably would phone the rspca. I would be too frightened of the neighbours giving me a hard time.

But you had nothing to worry about so it okay.

Would you go to the neighbours and say that you are glad they have your animals best interest at heart but if they have any concerns then they only have to ask you to clear it up?

If more people phoned the rspca then maybe there wouldnt be such horrible crimes against animals.

 

[glitzyglamgirl]

I must say - a little off topic here, but as far as the RSPCA goes, I am not a huge fan as IMO they get too involved politically (for example hunting etc) and it seemed to me that if you donated, your money would go to them opposing fox hunting or some other thing, rather than actually saving animals.
This probably isn't strictly true, but it's enough to make me put my money elsewhere.

Thats exactly why I DO donate to them!

 

[rhian85]

I'm not surprised you were upset when the RSPCA came round - yes they were 'just doing their job' and yes your neighbours probably meant well, but I can totally understand how hurt you must have been to have it implied that you were mistreating Sasha when you obviously care so much about her and have put so much time and effort into giving her a good home.... I would feel exactly the same if someone reported me to the RSPCA just because my dogs were in a kennel

RSPCA do good work (helping abused and neglected animals) and they do not such good work (releasing town foxes into the countryside covered in mange and unable to feed themselves coz they're used to scavenging in bins)

Also, some people have commented that it is wrong to keep a dog outside on fireworks night, both my dogs are kenelled outside (massive run, insulated kennel with underfloor heating, benches to sleep on, 2 hours of walks / runs a day etc etc) and were not remotely bothered about being outside on fireworks night - lots of them are a lot happier outside than in a house, mine included so bringing them inside on fireworks night would upset them more than leaving them where they were and checking on them regularly. I think you are doing the sensible thing keeping her outside, for her sake and your baby's.

I'm sure your neighbours didn;t mean to be malicious, maybe you could have a word with them and just say thank you for your concern, but my dog is very well cared for and happy - if you would like to meet her, feel free to come round etc. That way there is no bad feeling

thanks..the first reall person to understand why it all has botherd me so much.. and as u say sahsa likes her house outside and during firework nite we had the kitchen light on and OH whent out to her every half hour....and what i ment in first post was she actually was NOT WHIMPERING which is why im confused as to why we were reported.

 

[cassi]

Regardless dogs are generally scared of fireworks and therefore they probably just assumed she was frightened and outside alone, if it was me I would of called the RSPCA too, cause they dont know you and neither do I, If I did then I would know you actually look after your dog very well and that she is very happy, so they did what they saw fit from what they could see. and how it looked.

 

[paradysso]

phew its taken me ages to read through this thread.

i just have to agree it was good of them to phone rspca, but i also dont think that highly of the rspca, (also a country girl )

and regards to dog being kept outside on fireworks night, if thats where the dog knows its home is, then why not, them insulated kennels are pretty cosy and i expect sasha felt safe in her own territory. My family have always kept dogs outside in kennels, either as working dogs or guard dogs so totally understand.

i just mainly wanted to say "well done for putting so much time and effort into looking after sasha, most people would have just returned her, and she'd be left waiting and hoping for a new family "

can we see pic of her, im a huge GSD fan, we had a black one until our baby became allergic