Your opinions re: induction

[x.Lilly.x]

Iv read lots of peoples opinions on google and have looked at the reviews of it and have heard peoples opinions on here as well.
But still, my view is, if we let our oh's put there germy willy up there and bash up against our cervix... then whats the differance to a capsule that is compleatly safe. I havent said Im going to insert it into my cervix or whatever its called, or try and pop my waters myself or try anything crazy or insane like tht.

 

[emma_85]

I don't get the capsule insertion thing. It reminds me of that blonde joke where she said "I've been taking the contraceptive pill.. But it just keeps falling out" lol.

EXACTLY! Thanks for making light of the situation - this was exactly my reaction (alongside utter shock) when I read the 'evening primrose oil' thread earlier, which i'll be honest prompted this thread to begin!

Starting to regret it now tho tbh. I just thought i'd bring it up and get other opinions, but it seems I have upset people who are already feeling a little grumpy!

 

[x.Lilly.x]

because i feel like your telling me im doing something unsafe that will hurt my baby, when i dont think i am at all & if i really thought something i did was unsafe/could hurt my child I would be saying no thankyou to do doing it.
If you and your partner have sex I could say the same about you...

 

[emma_85]

Iv read lots of peoples opinions on google and have looked at the reviews of it and have heard peoples opinions on here as well.
But still, my view is, if we let our oh's put there germy willy up there and bash up against our cervix... then whats the differance to a capsule that is compleatly safe. I havent said Im going to insert it into my cervix or whatever its called, or try and pop my waters myself or try anything crazy or insane like tht.

Oh i'm sorry - i thought you said to flexilexi on your thread that "putting it in your foof" was your very intention! confused.com

 

[x.Lilly.x]

Yes it is. I meant insert it right into my cervix area (dont know what it is called) like where the baby and waters are etc

 

[emma_85]

because i feel like your telling me im doing something unsafe that will hurt my baby, when i dont think i am at all & if i really thought something i did was unsafe/could hurt my child I would be saying no thankyou to do doing it.
If you and your partner have sex I could say the same about you...

Not at all Lilly, it's not a personal insult to you, or a personal attack that you are doing it wrong. I'm just wanting to outline the potential risks.

It seems that up and down the country people are told different things when it comes to inducing labour. I am one of these people who before doing anything (pregnancy related or not) I have to weigh up the pros and cons of the actions I am 'thinking' of taking.

For me, when it comes to my child any con outweighs any pros because I could not live with myself if I had been the contributor to any harm. I really wanted to ask people whether they really are aware of the potential risks etc. I have read and heard of the natural induction methods, of course I have! But I have also read and been told complications that can occur too, which for me far outweigh any desire to want to hurry things along.

Everyone is different though, and I am not insulting anyone's decision at all. Everyone is perfectly entitled to do as they wish when it comes to how they wish to have their baby.

I also think that when the induction methods people use don't work, it can be a confidence bashing thing, and add further anxiety and worry that there is something wrong with you or the baby etc...

 

[x.Lilly.x]

so can I just ask again, cant remember if you said or not.
what are the risks that you think inserting a epo capsule into your foof has?

 

[emma_85]

so can I just ask again, cant remember if you said or not.
what are the risks that you think inserting a epo capsule into your foof has?

re-read opening thread, there is a quote from a Dr Parker. I'll try to find the website. Although I did just type "cons of inserting evening primrose oil" and it came up.

 

[Mrs.s]

Emma_85 I knownypurs think that inserting epo capsules inside you is unsafe but I don't see how it is different to perrienal massage which is most certainly Recommended by midwives and doctors?!?

It isn't used to induce labour hun -

"The intention is to attempt to prevent tearing of the perineum during birth, the need for an episiotomy or an instrument (forceps or vacuum extraction) delivery."

I know exactly what is thanks - bit you use oil for it so how is that different to putting an oil capsule in the same place! No one isnsaying they stick the capsule inside their cervix are they!

Actually, YES they are!

If you know exactly what it is, why use it as an example of induction, when perineum massage isn't at all an induction method! You aren't making sense woman!

I never said it was an induction method but you are still putting oil inside you so to me that is no different to inserting a capsule to the very same place!

also it actually isnt an induction method it just helps soften your cervix nothing wrong with that it is exactly the same and having sex as sperm does the very same thing

 

[amyjayne77]

My mw was very interested in the whole epo insertion thing and thought although shed never tell me to do it, anything natural like this ( and the curry/ walking etc) would be far more favourable to the syntocin drips, constant monitoring, canulas and drips, which IMHO is not natures way and is not your baby's decision ! I don't believe any of the methods we gave mentioned yet has ever proved dangerous has it?? And I don't think they'd make a baby that wasn't ready come out either!

 

[x.Lilly.x]

''Dr. Parker also warns about the medications used to induce labor, which could have harmful affects. "These are powerful drugs and medications used to induce labor," he says. "Given in the wrong amounts or not monitored appropriately, patients can put their baby at risk of hyperstimulation of the uterus – too many contractions [which cause] fetal distress. There can be uterine rupture because the contractions are too strong and hard. There can be excessive bleeding and other problems that may ultimately result in an emergency C-section. And although we do a great job at C-section, there's still going to be that small percentage of women who have complications from those Cesareans."''

i dont see how that is specifically for the epo capsule...

 

[Mrs.s]

My mw was very interested in the whole epo insertion thing and thought although shed never tell me to do it, anything natural like this ( and the curry/ walking etc) would be far more favourable to the syntocin drips, constant monitoring, canulas and drips, which IMHO is not natures way and is not your baby's decision ! I don't believe any of the methods we gave mentioned yet has ever proved dangerous has it?? And I don't think they'd make a baby that wasn't ready come out either!

well said

 

[x.Lilly.x]

My mw was very interested in the whole epo insertion thing and thought although shed never tell me to do it, anything natural like this ( and the curry/ walking etc) would be far more favourable to the syntocin drips, constant monitoring, canulas and drips, which IMHO is not natures way and is not your baby's decision ! I don't believe any of the methods we gave mentioned yet has ever proved dangerous has it?? And I don't think they'd make a baby that wasn't ready come out either!

agreed

 

[PinkPunch]

The thing is, people take these things around the time they are due so how do we know it worked and it wasn't just the baby coming when it's due anyway?

I had a curry 3 days before DD arrived, had it worked? Who knows because I gave birth on the due date they gave me! So people might be influenced to think it must of worked whereas I don't think so.. It was just her time.

Any other "inducing" method though, that I don't understand how it works, I'll stay away from it. I honestly don't see how eating pineapple fruit for instance makes your baby come though. If i did think it worked and If I did take it now to bring on the baby, I would feel that my baby hasn't finished growing yet and won't be it's proper birth weight.

 

[emma_85]

Exactly, so why bother trying - so much effort - pointless!

 

[emma_85]

The thing is, people take these things around the time they are due so how do we know it worked and it wasn't just the baby coming when it's due anyway?

I had a curry 3 days before DD arrived, had it worked? Who knows because I gave birth on the due date they gave me! So people might be influenced to think it must of worked whereas I don't think so.. It was just her time.

Any other "inducing" method though, that I don't understand how it works, I'll stay away from it. I honestly don't see how eating pineapple fruit for instance makes your baby come though. If i did think it worked and If I did take it now to bring on the baby, I would feel that my baby hasn't finished growing yet and won't be it's proper birth weight.

well said!

 

[AugustMum]

I think people do it because they are so eager to meet their new child and are sometimes in pain due to being in the final weeks. They will most probably look into what they are going to do and have weighed the pros and cons and so decided to go ahead with it. I never did anything to induce my labour, but I put that down to lazyness. I see no problems in it and I dont believe they would do any damage to the child.

As Amyjayne has said though, I was induced and luckily after one pessery labour began but for some they are pumped full of unnatural drips ect to get the baby out, so how is this any less harm to the baby than a natural method such as primrose oil? I would much rather eat 8 pinapples (btw....WOW...htf did she do it) than be hooked up to a drip. I agree with natural methods.

 

[emma_85]

I think people do it because they are so eager to meet their new child and are sometimes in pain due to being in the final weeks. They will most probably look into what they are going to do and have weighed the pros and cons and so decided to go ahead with it. I never did anything to induce my labour, but I put that down to lazyness. I see no problems in it and I dont believe they would do any damage to the child.

As Amyjayne has said though, I was induced and luckily after one pessery labour began but for some they are pumped full of unnatural drips ect to get the baby out, so how is this any less harm to the baby than a natural method such as primrose oil? I would much rather eat 8 pinapples (btw....WOW...htf did she do it) than be hooked up to a drip. I agree with natural methods.

I don't agree with any induction methods, natural or drips.

How she ate the 8 pineapples baffles me too - i guess she was desperate!

I just think that forums can be quite 1 sided, especially on this forum I have found MANY different users talk about induction methods they are trying. But obviously, with it being a forum all the methods etc tend to be seen as the 'done thing' and I thought it would be good to research and bring some 'light' to potential risks that can happen with any of the induction methods.

Without meaning to sound patronising, there are a lot of 1st time mums, teenage mums and vulnerable ladies who use these forums and will take these induction methods as "gospel" or a "good thing" - I just thought it would be sensible to flip the coin and point out that induction is not always the best option.

 

[Mrs.s]

Emma_85 I think that's exactly how you do sound - apologies but just because someone is younger than you and/or a first time mum DOES NOT mean they don't know what they are doing to their own body that is a very rude thing to say!

Lots of people on here try the old wives tales yes because it's not in any way harmful whatsoever!

I think by now everyone knows that you don't agree with them induction natural or medical - but please keep your opinions on whether people are young or first time mums to yourself

 

[AugustMum]

Its true, sometimes forums can make you think that everybody and anybody is using differnt methods to meet their babies, but in my opinion, I dont believe a very large majority of these methods are doing any harm. As pointed out, with a perrienal massage, you are using an oil to do it, so how is this any different to putting primrose oil in the same area? I just cannot see the downside.

Me and my midwife discussed all these methods and she said they are all safe, but baby will arrive when he/she is ready. This doesnt mean there is no point in natural induction methods. It sometimes is used as a method of passing the time lol.

You said that you dont agree with natural or drip as a form of induction, will you be refusing an induction?