This has really annoyed me

[Misslarue]

There is the issue of World Overpopulation. In China everyone is limited to one child..........of course this causes its own problems.
NOT that I am saying I agree with this (although its pretty shocking watching the world population clock going up and up and up and up)

http://www.ibiblio.org/lunarbin/worldpop

Just thought I would chuck it in the mix!!

 

[beanie]

Jesus that is scary watching that

I am really against the chinese policy especially with the toruble it has caused but to see how fast our populaton is rising, we need to buy everyone a telly

 

[Misslarue]

Jesus that is scary watching that

I am really against the chinese policy especially with the toruble it has caused but to see how fast our populaton is rising, we need to buy everyone a telly

Its well scary innit (apparently 5 are born every second but 2 die)

I'm against the Chinese policy too. Not only is there the whole human rights issue, but too many little girls are abandoned or killed as everyone wants a son to carry on the family name.

Totally agree, we need to buy everyone a telly!

 

[hels]

If money was no issue, i would have more children. But we cant afford for me to be off work again on maternity. maybe one day when we have saved enough we'll be able to afford a brother or sister for Charlie

 

[violet-glow]

Thats has made me totaly sick! Arrgghh Theres OH and I struggling and those bloody idiots get money just handed to them basicly willy nilly

Someone should teach her to how keep her legs closed.
planning her 6th kid and shes the same age as me

EDIT: I should have probably explained why im in a mood with that couple with 5 kids. they get 1500 a month right? Well for us that is alot of money, because were having to live off 500 a month and out of that we have to pay for rent, food, clothes, bills and anything else.

Surely its a bit iresponsable having 5 children who are so close in ages. How can you give them all the individual attention they need. Dont get me wrong im sure they are loved and are in a happy house hold, but 5 kids by the age of 21 and planning their 6th kid.... why are they planning their 6th kid?? It sounds like they feel they have something missing in their life and feel the need to fill that void... but the onyl way they can think of doing that, is to keep having children. Not purposely trying to sound mean here, but I think the parents need some form of counseling or the contraceptive pill at the very least.

 

[lauramumof2]

i know it must sound mad to plan another child when they only live on benefits, but if they are happy, why shouldn't they be allowed to bring up the family they want so badly?

its not fair though, if we wanted even another few we couldnt because we would get no money. Should my wage per hour go up depending on how many kids i have, its not going to happen and they shouldnt get money in that way. I dont want 6 kids btw, im having enough bother with2

 

[Urchin]

I think 6 is too many too..... I'd love a huge family but unless we become more financially stable it's not happening.

I've always said if we win the lottery I'm but a massive house and filling it with kids

 

[Hypnorm]

i know it must sound mad to plan another child when they only live on benefits, but if they are happy, why shouldn't they be allowed to bring up the family they want so badly?

its not fair though, if we wanted even another few we couldnt because we would get no money. Should my wage per hour go up depending on how many kids i have, its not going to happen and they shouldnt get money in that way. I dont want 6 kids btw, im having enough bother with2

I agree - If we have more kids our wage doesn't go up, we get more child benefit of a bout £17 a week - whoopee!!! but if my hubby earns more our tax credits go down, and the amount hubby gets taxed goes up!

I don't begrudge any one having lots of kids but make sure you are able to provide or work to support them, don't rely on benefits - you never know when the government decide they have paid you too much and ask for the money back!

 

[budge]

Omg have just been reading this and i am so annoyed

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I am not usually a very judgemental person but i just want to shake these 2

They are just popping kids out but its ok 'cos thay don't have to pay for them

Sorry if i upset anyone by this but i am so mad about it

If people want to have children they should damn well make sure they can afford them and not expect everyone else to foot the bill

I mean a 4 bed house for gods sake and there are people on this forum who are trying to get 2 bed houses and the council won't help, so should we all just stop working and doss about to get the things we want/need?

No we don't as we have put great thought into how we bring up ouur children and we work damn hard to do it and some of us are worse of for it

the irritating thing here is that the system allows them to do this.

 

[beanie]

Omg have just been reading this and i am so annoyed

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I am not usually a very judgemental person but i just want to shake these 2

They are just popping kids out but its ok 'cos thay don't have to pay for them

Sorry if i upset anyone by this but i am so mad about it

If people want to have children they should damn well make sure they can afford them and not expect everyone else to foot the bill

I mean a 4 bed house for gods sake and there are people on this forum who are trying to get 2 bed houses and the council won't help, so should we all just stop working and doss about to get the things we want/need?

No we don't as we have put great thought into how we bring up ouur children and we work damn hard to do it and some of us are worse of for it

the irritating thing here is that the system allows them to do this.

I think there should be some changes to the system, but I also think that the governement should make it easier for mums to go back to work too

 

[Rosieroo]

I don't think anyone can justify somebody popping out 6 kids and expecting the state to provide for them. I think £1500 is a good sum of money to live on, I'm sure they don't have a mortgage to pay for out of that!!
My husband works hard to provide for us - why should he be providing for some lazy shits who can't be bothered to work and just pop out more kids to avoid working? It would be great if Matt could jack in his job, we get rid of the house get a council house and live off of benefits but fortunately we have our dignity.

 

[hels]

It would be great if Matt could jack in his job, we get rid of the house get a council house and live off of benefits but fortunately we have our dignity.quote]




I wouldnt want to do that Kina, Im really proud that we have worked hard to have a little house of our own, something that we can leave to our children, which might make their life easier in years to come.
My DH had a right shit time trying to claim benefits when he was off work sick after spinal surgery, it took WEEKS, infact he was back at work before it came through They couldnt get into their heads that he WANTED to get back to work! If it hadnt have been for my parents i really dont know how we would have managed, we couldnt even afford his pain relief prescription
I hope to be in a position to be able to help my kids out when they have hard times, as my family have for us.

Im very proud of my husband, he works so hard for his family!!

 

[hels]

It would be great if Matt could jack in his job, we get rid of the house get a council house and live off of benefits but fortunately we have our dignity

I wouldnt want to do that Kina, Im really proud that we have worked hard to have a little house of our own, something that we can leave to our children, which might make their life easier in years to come.
My DH had a right sh*t time trying to claim benefits when he was off work sick after spinal surgery, it took WEEKS, infact he was back at work before it came through They couldnt get into their heads that he WANTED to get back to work! If it hadnt have been for my parents i really dont know how we would have managed, we couldnt even afford his pain relief prescription
I hope to be in a position to be able to help my kids out when they have hard times, as my family have for us.

Im very proud of my husband, he works so hard for his family!![/quote][/quote]

 

[K X]

I am astonished that people think £1500 isn't a lot to live off.

And no I don't agree with the whole popping out 6 kids when you dont work is ok. I would love a bigger family but can't afford to right now, not until Rebecca is at school nursery.

People may well get pissed off with the "we pay our taxes talk, well I grudge compensating some peoples lifestyles. Me and OH work damn hard to make sure we can afford to pay for things, and are having to compensate missing out on Rebecca's first attempts at crawling, talking and probably walking when it happens. It upsets me, but it is a gamble I have to take in order for us to be able to provide for her.

If I had 1500 to live off a month I'd be one happy bunny!

 

[violet-glow]

But if you think about it these people DONT pay rent or council tax... so the 1500 quid they get a MONTH goes on what ever they want!! minus money for bills and food... but lets face it the bills WONT come to that much.

 

[PyscoFalcon]

But if you think about it these people DONT pay rent or council tax... so the 1500 quid they get a MONTH goes on what ever they want!! minus money for bills and food... but lets face it the bills WONT come to that much.

Exactly!

We get about £200 less than that a month. Most of it's from T's job but about £100 is from my incapacity benafits.

Out of that HALF goes on our mortgage then the rest on ALL bills including council tax and food.

If we were in a council house we'd be saving over £700 a month

As for £150 worth of presants EACH We're lucky if we get £50 worth of presants from the WHOLE FAMILY!


It took me 5 years to get on Incapacity Benafits after my accident and I could NOT walk AT ALL for the first 2 years afterwards!

 

[kayzee]

I am in the same situation as these people you are talking about through no fault of my own I got my council house because when i was pregnant and married and working!!!! with ben my first i developed problems and had to stop work early, the house we were renting was damp so couldnt take the baby back there so we ended up staying at mil's. Russ was made redundant when ben was 2 weeks old so we couldnt afford to go back to our house and because of the sever overcrowding at his mums we were lucky to be given a council house. Russ started a job 2 weeks later cos he dint wanna go on benefit and i went back to work when ben was 3 months old. Then another surprise i was expecting lee and tried to go back after he was born until i could find something to fit in with them. When they were both at school i was working 3 jobs private cleaning, in a school kitchen and 3 evenings a week shelf stacking besides russ working too. I was the same as you guys i hated the minority of spongers getting money off our backs but i still worked hard
Now i find myself on the other side of the fence Me and russ went through a really bad patch which culminated in us getting a divorce and as soon as he left i had to pack up my evening work cos i was on my own, the lady i cleaned for moved to cornwall and i was off with severe stress from my school job. It nearly killed me Then lee was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome so he is registered as having a mental disability and i had to pack my last bit of freedom and sanity in to be there for him 24/7. I Had full intentions of getting back to work once lee had got the help he needed and struglled on the pittance i got, I started anew relationship after 2 years of heartache which didnt work so now im pregnant with my much wanted daughter. I did think whether to have her in the beginning or not because im on my own, and im so glad i am
The moral of this story is, Im at home living "off your backs" as you so put it, through no fault of my own, MY son has a registered disability and im pregnant and a single mum, so does that make me like all these mums then? I would give anything for lee to be "normal" and for my life to be perfect but it isnt, The only reason we manage so well is cos of lees disability money. I would rather be struggling at work to make ends meet and him to be ok, Ive even been accused of making his aspergers up by people who work just so i can live the "easy" life!!!
I can assure you it isnt, so spare a thought for people like me who are stereotyped and made to feel guilty by peoples opinions on our situations. I wish my life was different but it isnt and there is nothing i can do about it!!!!!!

 

[missac]

the difference is you haven't chosen to be in that situation, these 6 kid people have.

I think we all have respect for people like yourselves that have tried to make it work and circumstances have been stacked against them, noone begrudges these people anything. Unfortunately there are people out there who scam the system for all it is worth and do "live off the backs" of people who do work.

 

[violet-glow]

1500 is just far to much money. The system should be supporting and trying to coax parents back to work, not offer them more money.

Because OH is a uni student he cant work as many hours as he would like, so we get 500 a month and that goes on rent, council tax, bills, food... if there is any money left at the end of that then it goes on zack.
I would have liked to have unborn when we were more finacialy stable, but things dont always work out like that.

But these people are actually PLANNING on having more children, because they know the goverment will give them more money and they wont have to worry about it. The goverment moans about adults being out of work and teen pregnancys etc... but it does nothing to try and stop this from happening. It seems like the goverment are actually all for throwing money and supporting this attitude of getting pregnant to get a house and benefits.

 

[Rosieroo]

the difference is you haven't chosen to be in that situation, these 6 kid people have.

Exactly - and you're a single mother. I for one wasn't talking about people in your situation, I was talking about those that are in relationships and both choose not to work.
Both my parents had/have council houses. My dad was too ill to work after suffering a back injury, so my stepmother worked (whilst pregnant and afterwards). When my dad died she continued to work.
My stepfather is a self employed painter & decorator and my mum works part-time at Matalan. Neither of them got/get anywhere near £1500 a month in wages and benefits.

If people are in a relationship and have children why shouldn't one of them go out to work? Why do both of them rely on benefits?