Just a quick question....what does everyone else (who doesnt temp) class as ovulation day....day after lh surge, day after cramps?? Not sure what to count as ovulation day...got my lh surge yesterday with a peak on cb fertility monitor and a definate darker line on opk. Got peak again today on cb fert mon and a strong line but not darker on opk. As i dont temp how do i know when ive ovulated as you can ovulate 24-48 hours after surge. guess im falling into the trap of counting down again.....argggh! any thoughts would be most welcome!