Wow this is getting confusing, but megsmeadow i think that was a brilliant explaination - have you been on wilkipedia again lol. Right my babies been head down for weeks and is pretty much fully engaged now, they said he was at least 3/5ths engaged but the MW thought it was probably more than that and wouldn't be long until he is fully engaged. My understanding is if your babies on the brim Hannah she's not engaged just yet honey, but it head down and should start to engage soon. Bouncing on a exercise ball and crawling about on all fours is supposed to help, but some babys don't actually engage until labour, i've been having on and off contractions since last wednesday, although they've been quiet again today. But i'm sure our's babies will all be here soon xx