Can You Believe This?
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Bit ridiculous if you ask me.daftscotslass
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Aww did they even cut out "shave his belly with a rusty razor"? 
Personally it's rubbish... 99.99% of kids will learn the "proper" version without a care in the world about what it means.
Personally it's rubbish... 99.99% of kids will learn the "proper" version without a care in the world about what it means.
I said to my OH that Angel will get taught the 'normal' version. It's like 'Baa Baa Black Sheep" It's Rainbow sheep now isn't it? I'll still teach her the original as that's what i know. Plus i've only ever seen black or white sheep! Lol
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LisaJ1986 said:
It hit the news when a couple of nurseries in England changed it. Tis not the norm, they still teach them the "taboo" versions at our school nursery and Becky's nursery
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Whether the book publisher admits it or not it's just another example of political correctnes gone mad.
I swear in years to come this country will see civil war, with so many cultures living together in this country (which could be a great thing), look how rilled everyone gets when one 'foreign' person critisises things we do and it gets banned, especially at kids level it's mad, i.e. were not allowed to call black boards a black board for fear of racial discrimination (they have to be chalk boards) but ironically it's ok for them to call a white board a white board? Mad, tearing up nursery rhymes is just another example of all this crap.
I swear in years to come this country will see civil war, with so many cultures living together in this country (which could be a great thing), look how rilled everyone gets when one 'foreign' person critisises things we do and it gets banned, especially at kids level it's mad, i.e. were not allowed to call black boards a black board for fear of racial discrimination (they have to be chalk boards) but ironically it's ok for them to call a white board a white board? Mad, tearing up nursery rhymes is just another example of all this crap.
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Iggle20 said:
Actually the manufacturers of them will only call them "dry-wipe" boards. I've also yet to go to a school that doesn't call a board you write on with chalk a blackboard. I can't stand that so many think it's always the fault of the minorities complaining - it's just this perceived need to be politically correct that's portrayed in the media. The "foreign" people you mention generally don't give a hoot.
So the majority of us will go on calling the objects by the names we've always called them (blackboards, whiteboards) and singing the songs we always have (black sheep, drunken sailors) while the media blows the stories of the few that don't totally out of proportion.
I think its a good thing. We were only talking the other day on a thread about the old books and nursery rhymes we had as children and how scary they were and not very PC. Like the wolf having his tummy cut open and filled with stones for example. If I'm completely honest I don't want Isaac to sing a song about a drunk sailor, it is giving the wrong message if you think about it 
As for the baa baa black sheep I can and can't see whats wrong with that, some sheep are black, but then I suppose you have the phrase 'black sheep of the family' so being a black sheep is kind of stigmatised with being the 'odd one out' so to speak, so from that sense I can see its not very racially acceptable. Although the nursery rhyme makes no mention of the sheep being an 'odd one out'. We sing both black sheep and rainbow sheep versions at play centre. And the issue with pigs, well I can see that some cultures would find that offensive so I can't see any harm in compromising and not offending anybody to be honest. Don't get me wrong I'm all for being British but for the sake of peace and harmony is it really that much of an issue to maybe NOT sing a song about pigs?
As for the baa baa black sheep I can and can't see whats wrong with that, some sheep are black, but then I suppose you have the phrase 'black sheep of the family' so being a black sheep is kind of stigmatised with being the 'odd one out' so to speak, so from that sense I can see its not very racially acceptable. Although the nursery rhyme makes no mention of the sheep being an 'odd one out'. We sing both black sheep and rainbow sheep versions at play centre. And the issue with pigs, well I can see that some cultures would find that offensive so I can't see any harm in compromising and not offending anybody to be honest. Don't get me wrong I'm all for being British but for the sake of peace and harmony is it really that much of an issue to maybe NOT sing a song about pigs?
My wee boy loves sing-a-longs I'd like to teach him the 'new' versions too.
Tis PC gone bonkers though me finks.
Right-o we are not (?) meant to single out black....I'm fairly sure the international gay/ lesbian/bi/trans movements symbol is a rainbow flag.......So taking 'rainbow' sheep to the (?) 'black' PC extreme is this now not singling out the 'rainbow people'!
Ok right I think my Zane now will need to be taught 3 'baa baa' versions.......
3. Baa baa purple sheep... ....uh, hang on is purple the symbol of the juvenile diabetes 'jelly babies' campaign?
ok, nope that won't do then.......Green sheep? uh are we allowed to discriminate aliens these days
Tis PC gone bonkers though me finks.
Right-o we are not (?) meant to single out black....I'm fairly sure the international gay/ lesbian/bi/trans movements symbol is a rainbow flag.......So taking 'rainbow' sheep to the (?) 'black' PC extreme is this now not singling out the 'rainbow people'!
Ok right I think my Zane now will need to be taught 3 'baa baa' versions.......
3. Baa baa purple sheep... ....uh, hang on is purple the symbol of the juvenile diabetes 'jelly babies' campaign?
ok, nope that won't do then.......Green sheep? uh are we allowed to discriminate aliens these days
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Tbh I think they probably were just changing it to fit the theme of a pirate which is fair enough.
I think it's daft that people actually do get upset about nursery rhymes etc. For a start most of them are about completely unrelated things- most of them are based on various mythology, or are satires of people at the time etc. And now they are just nonsense rhymes, fair enough.
I think it's silly, when it's perfectly acceptable to let kids play games like grand theft auto or even to watch Eastenders for goodness sake.
Nursery rhymes & stories are part of a playground culture that is centuries old- tbh instead of changing that it would be more beneficial to introduce the equivalent from other cultures- like nursery rhymes in Swahili or fairytales from the Filipines.
I think it's daft that people actually do get upset about nursery rhymes etc. For a start most of them are about completely unrelated things- most of them are based on various mythology, or are satires of people at the time etc. And now they are just nonsense rhymes, fair enough.
I think it's silly, when it's perfectly acceptable to let kids play games like grand theft auto or even to watch Eastenders for goodness sake.
Nursery rhymes & stories are part of a playground culture that is centuries old- tbh instead of changing that it would be more beneficial to introduce the equivalent from other cultures- like nursery rhymes in Swahili or fairytales from the Filipines.
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Iggle20 said:
lol civil war is a bit extreme, don't you think?
I doubt any foreigner actually does critiscise, tbh I think most people moving to a new country are happy to take on many elements of that country's culture, makes it all the easier to integrate.
The real problem lies with a minority of overanxious people,whose rather ill judged descisions are then jumped on by the anti- anyonewhoisnotbritishanddoesnotlovetheempire lobby
