parental responsibility

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Basically i dont want my ex to have parental responsibility, he cant look after himself let alone a child and is constantly drunk starting fights and stealing things, he is also emotionally very immature.
I'm not going to put him on the birth certificate and if asked will refuse to sign the thing which the name of i have forgotten atm to give him it, from what i've read this will leave him to having to take me to court to get parental responsibility.
Now i dont beleive he would care enough to bother with this but i want to know if his drugs, drink, fighting and stealing will be enough to prevent him getting it, obviously if he cleans up his act and grows up i wont stop him seeing his child but i truely believe that atm he would cause more harm then good.

I've been googling it all and i cant seem to find the info i want :( can anyone help here??

edit... i wanted to add, does anyone know about grandparental rights?? Cos i wanna make sure his parents feel secure that even though i dont want him seeing baby i do want them to, im not sure if there is any official documents to kinda say this or if id have to get them written up.
 
Grandparents have no legal rights. Bottom line. They cannot demand to see your child or any such thing. They have very few, if any rights in the eyes of the law. Consider however that allowing them access to your child may mean your LO will see his/her father. Are you happy to allow them sole charge etc? Have them visit you? Will they try to influence you to allow the father access? Lots to consider. But end of the day, its your choice if you allow them access or not. They have to meet you on your terms.

You go and registers your childs birth on your own and simply don't put the fathers name down. He will not have parental responsibiity then. He would have to go through the courts to gain this and prove his case. I doubt a court would find in his favour if he is as you say, but you may well have to argue your case in return. However, I'd not worry about it now and cross that bridge when and IF you come to it. Also seeking legal advice from a solicitor who deals in family disputes would be good. They often offer free consults if you look around locally.
 
he only has the same legal rights as u if he asks for a dna, this can be done free throught the csa for both of you, in the unlikly event he wants to pay mainteance, u cant refuse and he would get shared pr unless u could prove he is unfit
 
I have been through the family courts and they are a minefield. If ypur ex is so out of his head he probably wont bother going for PR, but if he does you will have to have a strong case to stop him getting it, so start keeping a diary and gathering evidence if you can. The court will not be interested in "he said this she said that" type of slanging matches, they will do what they think is for the best interest of the child and in most cases this is for the child to see their fathers.

As for the grand parents, I did allow my ex's parents to see my children, but I had terms that they had to stick too, I.E no contact with my ex.

I explained to them that the time the kids spent with them was their time with their grandchildren, and they should enjoy it, and let the ex sort out what he wanted for himself.

This has woeked out really well for us all over the years and I am glad to say that my son in particular has a great relationship with his grandparents :)

Of course this is your personal choice, if you do want them to see their grandchild, you have to make sure they respect your wishes, what ever they are.

Good luck with it all :hug:
 
mary70 said:
he only has the same legal rights as u if he asks for a dna, this can be done free throught the csa for both of you, in the unlikly event he wants to pay mainteance, u cant refuse and he would get shared pr unless u could prove he is unfit

I've been to both a solicitor and CAB and can tell you my experience;

The father will only receive Parental Responsibility if;
- you are both married
- he is named on the birth certificate

He can fight for PR and as most have said, it can be a hard battle denying the father that. Sounds to me like you have lots of good reasons against him seeing your LO! Like jue said, keeping a diary is the best idea...

Grandparents have no legal rights to see the child. I would be very very careful though... A friend of my mum's came round to visit one night purely to discuss her side;

She allowed the Grandparents to see the child and they formed a bond. She didn't allow the father access but because she had provided access to the grandparents, it went in his favour and he was granted access (despite lots of reasons against it i.e. supposed child abuse etc).

You are able to claim maintanence from him without him being on the birth certificate etc, this does not automatically give him PR. Also, a DNA test doesn't give him automatic PR either.

The CSA website has lots of information which helped me out no end :hug:
 
dannii87 said:
mary70 said:
he only has the same legal rights as u if he asks for a dna, this can be done free throught the csa for both of you, in the unlikly event he wants to pay mainteance, u cant refuse and he would get shared pr unless u could prove he is unfit

I've been to both a solicitor and CAB and can tell you my experience;

The father will only receive Parental Responsibility if;
- you are both married
- he is named on the birth certificate

He can fight for PR and as most have said, it can be a hard battle denying the father that. Sounds to me like you have lots of good reasons against him seeing your LO! Like jue said, keeping a diary is the best idea...

Grandparents have no legal rights to see the child. I would be very very careful though... A friend of my mum's came round to visit one night purely to discuss her side;

She allowed the Grandparents to see the child and they formed a bond. She didn't allow the father access but because she had provided access to the grandparents, it went in his favour and he was granted access (despite lots of reasons against it i.e. supposed child abuse etc).

You are able to claim maintanence from him without him being on the birth certificate etc, this does not automatically give him PR. Also, a DNA test doesn't give him automatic PR either.

The CSA website has lots of information which helped me out no end :hug:



Dannii is spot on :)
 

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