Daily Mail's at it again! Co-sleeping cribs.

[Bethyboo87]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-newborn-baby-died-getting-strangled-bed.html

Sooo... what's everyone's take on this article? We have got the Chicco Next2Me and would presume it has the same issue. Part of me thinks it was just a really awful accident, but now oh is talking about leaving the side up on ours. Completely defeats the object, and such a waste of money if we do that. Obviously baby's safety is paramount, but have the DM just written another scaremongering article?

As a FTM any input would be much appreciated! Xx

 

[BonzE]

Ftm here too and I have only just out in a rental order for the bednest...

Obviously we are ahocked and the news is so so sad, I have read the coroners report that said the baby was left unattended with the side half down; this isn't safe unless baby is supervised and says so in the manual but apparently it was second hand so the parents didn't have this info. Also the crib was tilted more than the advised 5cm, it appears the matress wasn't the recommended depth

My hubby has said that he think it's safe as long. As we follow the safety instructions . I feel that this is a tragic tragic accident.

What do you think? X

 

[Belfa]

We have a snuzpod and the only health and safety issue I ever saw was making sure your own duvet didn't end up going over baby's head if your baby rolled close to the edge. In the picture of the bednest, does the side that folds down not go fully down and there's a bit of the side (like a few cm's) that stays up i.e. it's not flush? If so, I'm guessing that's the issue of the baby rolls over and squishes their face up against it?

Really tragic story however, I wouldn't let my baby sleep in a co-sleeper unsupervised with the side down for 90mins and I assume they didn't have a monitor or sensor mat? I'll be having a senor mat with mine too for sure! x

 

[Elliott]

We've got a snuzpod (not used yet) and I don't think all co sleepers have the same features that caused the tragic events here. Also I agree that as long as sensible and careful and following instructions hopefully it would be avoidable, although you'd think they would design it to ensure no features good result in this.

 

[TashaWink]

I think baby was placed on belly too (I've read some comments on facebook) and it was half up (I assume these go all the way down which is why you would get it) so I would say all the way down or all the way up.

But definitely if used correctly these tragedies should be avoided.

It's not just in the daily mail though, was sent to a midwife friend.

 

[Mayflower85]

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[Bethyboo87]

It's just such an awful story, and feels horrible to be picking at things with the poor mother. I've not read anymore about it, just saw that article and freaked out a bit.

Belfa, I can see there is a lip between baby and bed, and have just assumed mine has that too. Ours isn't in our house so will check at the weekend. But I guess as long as instructions are followed all should be okay. We also have a sensor monitor so is a bit of reassurance.

Thanks all

 

[BonzE]

Yes she was on her front, it's awful.

The side goes all the way down, half down to allow easy access and all the way up. The side is to be out up when baby is sleeping.

It just doesn't bear thinking about x

 

[littlemonkey]

Hmmm, there are a few things in this story that are making me question how much of it is a safety issue with the cot itself. Such as baby being left on their own for 90 mins with the side partially down. It is terribly unfortunate for the family, but I do think it's too easy to blame the product without knowing the full circumstances.

We have the Chicco next2me crib and will be keeping it. We bought it for size, as our eldest outgrew his moses basket quickly. We want to keep this baby in with us longer and the next 2 me is larger than most cribs.

 

[Rooster30]

I haven't read the article but just personally, I have always felt uncomfortable with co-sleeping. Though, I certainly do not judge those that choose to do this.

 

[Elliott]

I like the idea of the co sleeping but I will say if at any point I don't feel comfortable about it I won't do it. I like the snuzpod just as a crib the fact I can use it to co sleep is an added extra but I'd be just as happy using it just by the bed if that works better for us.

 

[buttonbear]

Sad story baby on its front and size partially down isn't ideal, daily mail you can never be sure of its facts however!!

We were going to get one as my first LO outgrew his moses basket and liked the idea of it being a co sleeper but once I read and got more information on co sleepers NOT being able to use a sensor mat with them we decided against it and went for a crib instead. ( it picks up parents breathing and movement as attached/too close to parent bed)

 

[Emapot1]

This is so heartbreaking to read. My ds was breastfeed for along time till 18 months and I fed him in bed all the time. I don't believe I slept for 2 yrs as he slept with my attached to my boob! I co sleep with him now as he's got a few separation issues and after loosing his baby sister last year, it made matters a lot harder for him to sleep on his own. However, co sleeping is such a varied contraversal subject as I think a lot of people do it and a lot of people don't. It's safe in some minds and unsafe in others. I know the risks but i went with my instincts and have to say that I wousknt leave henry or any other baby of mine (or anyone else for that matter) unsupervised in a compromising risky position. I guess if thoroughly check baby's surroundings before I make any decision. But I tread very carefully with my views as its not something I want to do by offending someone else unintentially iykwim. Xx

 

[Belfa]

Sad story baby on its front and size partially down isn't ideal, daily mail you can never be sure of its facts however!!

We were going to get one as my first LO outgrew his moses basket and liked the idea of it being a co sleeper but once I read and got more information on co sleepers NOT being able to use a sensor mat with them we decided against it and went for a crib instead. ( it picks up parents breathing and movement as attached/too close to parent bed)

Oh I didn't know that about the sensor! Thanks!

As said above I am happy with the Snuzpod as a crib as our primary reason for picking it was that it's bigger than a Moses basket and wasn't much more expensive than the Moses basket I had picked out x

 

[buttonbear]

Sad story baby on its front and size partially down isn't ideal, daily mail you can never be sure of its facts however!!

We were going to get one as my first LO outgrew his moses basket and liked the idea of it being a co sleeper but once I read and got more information on co sleepers NOT being able to use a sensor mat with them we decided against it and went for a crib instead. ( it picks up parents breathing and movement as attached/too close to parent bed)

Oh I didn't know that about the sensor! Thanks!

As said above I am happy with the Snuzpod as a crib as our primary reason for picking it was that it's bigger than a Moses basket and wasn't much more expensive than the Moses basket I had picked out x

No worries my love It is the same with cot/crib etc mobiles and such i had no idea but it all detracts from actually picking up baby.

 

[Rachyroo]

Really sad. But it does seem it was used incorrectly, on the bednest FAQ it says you should never leave the child alone with the side half up

We have a snuzpod (and sensor monitor) and like you Belfa had not heard anything regarding not being able to use thetwo together.

ButtonBear, just out of interest where did you find out about not being able to use a sensor monitor with a co-sleeper or mobiles? The co-sleeper manufacturers all specifically state they can be used together, and I've read several Snuzpod reviews on blogs etc from people using them along with sensor monitors with no issues. I thought the sensor picks up movement from directly on top of it hence why it will alarm if the baby rolls off or is lifted off so not sure how it could pick up adult movement from a few feet away. Sorry - am not trying to be argumentative at all (sometimes it can come across that way on a forum) just really interested to see if Ive missed something!

 

[buttonbear]

I dont think youre argumentative at all silly

Many sites ive read it on and also HV spoke about it at my home visit as it picks up all movement around cot/crib not just directly undeeneath baby from the mat(its also best put on a piece of wood for best effectiveness). It will pick up baby so can be used but its just not as accurate as if parents move it will move the co sleeper etc.

 

[Bethyboo87]

That does make sense, will just have to try it out and see how we get on I suppose.

I did see on amazon that one of the questions on the monitor was whether you can use them with a crib like this and the only thing it said was you'll need to put in a wooden bottom for the sensor to sit on. All trial and error I guess! Xx

 

[Belfa]

What does a wooden bottom mean? Like wood then mattress then mattress protector then sensor mat then sheet then baby? It's so confusing!! x

 

[KWarbee]

This sounds like it was a tragic accident so sad.

I considered buying a bedside crib for baby but we decided against it purely based on we already have a moses basket and a carry cot with the pram so we couldn't justify the extra purchase. They seem like such a great idea.

I must admit, this sort of article would probably be enough to put me off. But I'm a natural worrier and I wouldn't be able to forget it. Saying that, it sadly does sound like it wasn't used correctly. Although it's just awful to be putting any blame on those poor parents. I can understand the manufacturers/charity (can't remember who made the comment?) needing to clarify what went wrong and it's reassuring for the public, but how heartbreaking for those parents.

I might be wrong here, but it says not to leave baby unsupervised with the side down? But I'm sure it must happen where mummy or daddy falls asleep beside them in bed with the side down for longer than 90 minutes?

xx