Teen Pregnancy disscussion/debate; The Sun Website

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  1. Princess_Puddles

    Princess_Puddles Well-Known Member

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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/pos ... 48417.page

    It's really annoyed me but thought some of you might want to take a look and give across your views, and I know there are a fair few of teen mums (me being one of them) on here.

    I hope this doesnt offend anyone as its really not intended to!
     
  2. Kimbo

    Kimbo Well-Known Member

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    how young is young?

    age is just a number in my opinon.

    my stepsister had twin girls born 12 weeks early at the age of 17.
    the dad has left, and they are now 2 years old.
    she has fetched them up from day one on her own... been back to college and has done the rest of the family proud.
    so like before, i think age is just a number
     
  3. Huddsgirl

    Huddsgirl Well-Known Member

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    my opinion is (no offence intended) i think the very very young teenage mums like 13 - 15 age gap i think is quite sad to see, as they are only babies themselves and have their lives ahead of them. i fell pregnant at 20 and i thought that was young enough.
    saying that though people handle it differently and some tend to deal with it better, but its just sad to see when the young mums are left cause the young dads cant handle the situation................obviously it maybe different for any ladies on here :D
     
  4. Princess_Puddles

    Princess_Puddles Well-Known Member

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    I agree Kimbo and im pretty sure that alot of teen Mums who are on the dole now days if they had a choice they wouldnt choose to be but it is very hard to get back into work as there isnt alot of help out there!
     
  5. Sarah&Braydon

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    grrrr some people really get on my nerves i was a teen mum but never 'sponged' of the tax payer i went out to work as soon as my mat leave ran out :twisted:
     
  6. Steelgoddess

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    I think teen pregnancy could go one way or the other, alot of girls are forced to grow up and alot of these same girls go on to do better in life with Kids then they would not of done without... I think as with eeveryone its a stereotype.

    There are fully grown women and men who have children and live off benefits, does not mean to say someone who is young will...

    I think the ppl that give young mums a name is those that do chose to get pregnant for the sole factor of getting a flat and living off benefits but I dont believe everyone is like that.

    I have learnt not to judge, take care of your own and life will be grand!

    xx
     
  7. kellie80

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    I think its very sad to see girls under 16 pregnant or mums but over 16 is ok.
    I do think girls need to be educated a lot more on what having a baby actually involves. I was pregnant with my 1st at 19 and I was totally unprepared for how difficult and demanding a baby was going to be. Although I thought I was mature enough at the time I wasn't! Its only now at 27 that I feel mature enough to deal with it but its still difficult. As for all young mums being on the dole I think that's rubbish, a lot of older mums I know are still on the dole so I don't think that has anything to do with age. When I was looking for work after my 1st was born I found it very difficult just because I had a young child, not because of my age. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense!
     
  8. Urchin

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    Erm, ladies... this IS the Sun remember... what do you expect... intelligent, constructive debate?


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  9. Princess_Puddles

    Princess_Puddles Well-Known Member

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    That is a lovely comment hun and very true :hug:
     
  10. trixipaws

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    grr i couldnt even read all of it, some of those comments were disgusting! :evil:

    it annoys me when people attack mums coz of their age- yes there are some teen mums who hav babies just to get a house or whatever then dont look after them, but plenty of older women are just as bad!

    teen mums face a lot of tough bigot opinions and i feel sorry for them its so unfair :(
     
  11. Squiglet

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    I think kids that young having babies is quite appalling... They are just kids themselves.. Knowing what I was doing at that age, I was in no way capable of truly handling childcare 100% on my own. My mum had just had two strokes, my dad worked full time, and the care of my mum, handicapped brother and sister fell to me. But I still needed help because I was young, couldn't drive, was considered unable to make decisions for my siblings/mother.

    Spain has low rates of teenage pregnancy, but I feel its because of the way pregnancy is treated here. Young mums (even 20+) are considered dreadful. There is no free form of contraceptive here... you have to pay. There are no benefits if you haven't worked and even then the benefits only last a few months after you have left a job... Council properties are almost non existent. Family are a big influence... abortion is only legal to 12weeks and then only with two consenting doctors. If you are under 18 you cannot have contraception or abortions without parental consent. Not every hospital has forms of pain relief during labour. Having a baby (baby clothes etc) is exceptionally EXPENSIVE.. there is no tax relief. There is not child benefit, not tax credits, no child care allowances. Child care is expensive and almost non existant. Max length of paid maternity leave is just 3 months.

    You desperately need two families to raise a kid here.. you have to work to get money to survive. Its impossible to cope without a partner and a supportive family.

    But it has the benefit of reducing not only the teenage pregnancy rate in this country, BUT the birth rate in general. So much so... that the government has only just brought in a baby bonus of 2.500€ but then that's it.. you get nothing else. It has however, increased the birth rate of the country, but not by much.

    Its really unfair having all these restrictions, but you can see why and that there are benefits...
     
  12. Steelgoddess

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    Yeah to be fair alot of those peeps that have made comments sound pretty thick!

    x
     
  13. Squiglet

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    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Apparently you only require a max reading age of 12 years to be able to read the Sun... that gives you a max IQ of 90 points.. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: If you struggle with reading the Sun you have issues..
     
  14. mrs_tommo22

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    The sun is a load of sh*t! I havent read the page but guessing that its pretty laughable and one sided arguments as per normal.
     
  15. Tegala-7thMarch08

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    i think some of them comments on that webpage were nasty.
    and most of teenage mothers under 18 cant get a place of there own untill they reach the age of 18 anyways.
    im 18 and i am not going to be claiming benifts when tamerons born...

    this just reminded me of something that happend to me a few weeks ago in a kabab shop. a drunken lady was staring at me and starting asking me to prove i wasnt on benifits and starting shouting all sorts of abuse at me i only wanted a kabab. she fell in a plant pot and was escorted out of teh kabab house. but i still felt like sh*t. im sure i will get that plenty more times.
     
  16. MissSara

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    I was pregnant at 16 and had harrison at 17, and although i had to grow up fast and put him first, as a teen mum i never sponged of anyone, i have worked for eveything i own and even planning to attend uni in sep.
    I hate it when these narrow minded prats slate teen mums just because of the minor few that do have babies for the wrong reasons, it makes my blood boil.

    They don't comment how teen mums bring their kids up and what they have achieved whilst doing it alone.
     
  17. jayla's mummy

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    i dont think there is any thing wrong with teenage pregnancy. but when its like a 13 year old that is wrong in my eyes.
    as long as your mature and are capable of looking after another life den dats alright. ( in my eyes)
     
  18. kimmumof2

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    i arent even going to read the article because the sun really annoys me anyway!! :twisted: i had my dd1 at the age of 17yrs after suffering a miscarriage aged 15yrs. me and oh wanted her and tried for a baby with the full bk up of my parents. i was pregnant whilst taking my gcse's and passed all 9 of them, i then took a yr out and went to college to take my a levels and im not at uni doing social work and have completed 2yrs but currently taking a yr out due to having dd2. my OH knew that i wanted to go to uni etc and he has supported in all ways since i got pregnant. i hate how they tarnish all teen mums with the same brush as a handful of bad examples!!!! i wouldnt recommend having children this young to anyone as it has been damn hard work running a household from the age of 16 but i wouldnt change anything for the world and im proud of everything i have acheived, especially my 2 beautiful daughters.

    (ok rant over lol)

    xxxxx
     
  19. Melly+2

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    I was 18 when i fell pg with hope which i felt was young but its made me so grown up now and couldnt live without her, i do live in a council house with gal, as its in his dads name but we both work, pay taxes and rent and pay our way as we should and always have done, having kids isnt an excuse to get benifits, fair enough if ppl are having trouble finding work anf are finding things hard then they have a choice to use dole as a way as long as they are really looking for work, but if they arejust using it as a way of life thats wrong¬!!
     
  20. Steelgoddess

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    Good point hon!!

    xx
     

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