Sperm issues, is this calculation/idea wrong?

[soffphie]

Ok guys so i have been thinking about sperm counts etc & wondered if for example your count was 10m, motile 66% and (for example as dont know it) morphology was 4%
In essence is that .. 10m / 100 x 66 so 6,600,000 moving correctly/viable but only 4% again are viable (morphology) so 264,000 in the end are viable sperm?
Im probably trying to apply to much math here

 

[Kitana]

I don't think it's entirely correct to judge your oh's sperm by just that particular sperm analysis on that day. It varies daily and might even be that next time the results will be much better.

You will be seeing a fertility expert in a few weeks, I'm sure they can answer your questions better than us ladies on the forum.

 

[soffphie]

I don't think it's entirely correct to judge your oh's sperm by just that particular sperm analysis on that day. It varies daily and might even be that next time the results will be much better.

You will be seeing a fertility expert in a few weeks, I'm sure they can answer your questions better than us ladies on the forum.

You are probably very right i just wondered if the principle behind it/my math was correct?

 

[MoominGirl]

From what I understand, yes your math is essentially correct as the vast majority of sperm is abnormal even in a normal sample.

However, as Kitana says, it's important not to get bogged down by the numbers as that sample only reflects that point in time. In our case, my OH's results improved massively after some lifestyle changes but again that might have happened anyway. Also, just because the results improve, it doesn't mean you'll get pregnant. It was still another 9 months for us after my husband's sample was normal.

 

[Outofsync]

Things that made a massive difference to oh sperm analysis
Stop all the protein shakes/bars they have something in them that has an adverse effect
Stop alcohol for three months
Take wellman pre conception
These three things massively improved oh sperm morphology
I wouldn’t get too bogged down by the numbers I know it’s hard but can change on a daily basis x

 

[soffphie]

From what I understand, yes your math is essentially correct as the vast majority of sperm is abnormal even in a normal sample.

However, as Kitana says, it's important not to get bogged down by the numbers as that sample only reflects that point in time. In our case, my OH's results improved massively after some lifestyle changes but again that might have happened anyway. Also, just because the results improve, it doesn't mean you'll get pregnant. It was still another 9 months for us after my husband's sample was normal.

thanks moomin. i remember when i told my mum my dh has 10m count and she was like oh thats ok then im like nooo its not its 20+ and she was so confused haha. she never had trouble conceiving tho apparently

 

[soffphie]

Things that made a massive difference to oh sperm analysis
Stop all the protein shakes/bars they have something in them that has an adverse effect
Stop alcohol for three months
Take wellman pre conception
These three things massively improved oh sperm morphology
I wouldn’t get too bogged down by the numbers I know it’s hard but can change on a daily basis x

thank you
we dont drink , he dont take protein shakes he takes wellmans but he was taking wellmans at time of sample as well :/
so we added a few supplements to mix i just literally had a chat with holland and barratt to check if the supplements would clash and she said no- so hopefully that is the case.
he now eats omega 3 pretty much daily (walnuts, salmon, other fish)
he has black maca, selenium, vitamin c, ashwagandha as well. its probably too much but we have a sperm analysis in 15 days so we will go off that- and hope & pray its done something!

 

[Unicorn]

Also be aware of stress - when we were trying to conceive first time round hubby spent 5 months doing all the things suggested to improve his sperm and his follow up test results were significantly worse - I'm sure from the amount of pressure and stress he felt xx

 

[chattychar1990]

Things that made a massive difference to oh sperm analysis
Stop all the protein shakes/bars they have something in them that has an adverse effect
Stop alcohol for three months
Take wellman pre conception
These three things massively improved oh sperm morphology
I wouldn’t get too bogged down by the numbers I know it’s hard but can change on a daily basis x

@Outofsync - where did you find the evidence of the protein shakes? My OH has one every morning and now i am freaking out wondering if this is the reason hes morphology is low? x

 

[Outofsync]

@Outofsync - where did you find the evidence of the protein shakes? My OH has one every morning and now i am freaking out wondering if this is the reason hes morphology is low? x

Our consultant at the ivf clinic told us because oh wasn’t on them on his first sperm analysis which had good results and it was the only difference that gave poor results I then googled sperm issues and protein shakes and found loads of info that it acts like an anabolic steroid so made him come off them straight away. Xx

 

[chattychar1990]

Our consultant at the ivf clinic told us because oh wasn’t on them on his first sperm analysis which had good results and it was the only difference that gave poor results I then googled sperm issues and protein shakes and found loads of info that it acts like an anabolic steroid so made him come off them straight away. Xx

That's really interesting, i had a google and i can't seem to find any evidence to back up that they are bad for sperm. If anything i found articles that adding whey protein to fertility shakes help.
I will get researching some more. x

 

[Outofsync]

That's really interesting, i had a google and i can't seem to find any evidence to back up that they are bad for sperm. If anything i found articles that adding whey protein to fertility shakes help.
I will get researching some more. x

From what I can remember it was something like they affected the hormones and impeded the sperm from releasing properly and causes issues with count and morphology. It could be all rubbish but stopping them defo improved OH morphology and count and we didn’t even give them a thought. We mentioned to our friends who where going through the same and they had also been told to stop the whey shakes and theirs improved as well xx

 

[chattychar1990]

From what I can remember it was something like they affected the hormones and impeded the sperm from releasing properly and causes issues with count and morphology. It could be all rubbish but stopping them defo improved OH morphology and count and we didn’t even give them a thought. We mentioned to our friends who where going through the same and they had also been told to stop the whey shakes and theirs improved as well xx

Thank you - i will speak to the fertility clinic when we have our appointment. I cant seem to find any evidence on this so i will be intrigued to know what the specialists say.
If anyone can find any evidence to back this up please do send me the link, i know my OH would stop taking it if he had to and there was some kind of truth in it. x

 

[soffphie]

@Outofsync - where did you find the evidence of the protein shakes? My OH has one every morning and now i am freaking out wondering if this is the reason hes morphology is low? x

a lady on here before - vintage - was told the same by her fertility clinic. i dont know why. she mentioned it to me as i said i was going to start having them

 

[soffphie]

From what I can remember it was something like they affected the hormones and impeded the sperm from releasing properly and causes issues with count and morphology. It could be all rubbish but stopping them defo improved OH morphology and count and we didn’t even give them a thought. We mentioned to our friends who where going through the same and they had also been told to stop the whey shakes and theirs improved as well xx

a lady who was on here before said same to me - she said her fertility clinic told her OH to stop protein shakes. i dont know why at all. she only said it to me because i mentioned how i was going to start having them and she said make sure you OH dont.

 

[chattychar1990]

Thanks ladies - Oh is going to hate me haha! x

 

[Outofsync]

Thanks ladies - Oh is going to hate me haha! x

I think it was something like after 3 months off them sperm returns to normal I do remember seeing a few articles but can’t find them now I was literally like we have tried everything else let’s at least try coming off them before ivf he had one a day and a protein bar as well he didn’t like me either but there was no way I was letting him have them! He has only been off them 3 months and back on them now so it was worth it! X

 

[Kitana]

I'm actually quite interested about the protein shakes because my oh has them almost every other day because he exercises a lot and heavily. We have conceived 6 times on an average of 10 months in total, so I'm quite interested to know how the protein shakes can influence the sperm quality badly.x

 

[Outofsync]

 

[Outofsync]

That was a screen shot of what I took at the time to show oh, think it’d like anything depends what it is like to start but it made sense to us and we saw an improvement I am sure there are some good and bad ones out there like anything x